Black male college gap driven by slower Black woman decline, not Black women gains

BigMan

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Part of the issue is right in the next post



Despite having the exact same opportunities

^Flat Blackness at work

first tweet I was with her

"exact same opportunities" is her bias projecting and a facially incorrect assumption

but unforuntaly a lot of black women only care about black men not attending college or "being successful" to the extent she is unable to get married or have someone help her take care of her children. no nuance, no critical thinking.
 

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Facts.

The goal is to dim the intellectual curiosity of all Americans EXCEPT those in The 1%.

They target Blacks, but they don't want working class/middle class whites getting to educated either. They need them to be the police, security and military arm to protect The 1% from the masses.

This is gonna hit Gen Z/Gen Alpha, square in the nuts.

it's going to do damage, but again this can all be slowed or turned in the next midterm, and damage reversed when he's forced to forfeit that 3rd term idea.
 

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but unforuntaly a lot of black women only care about black men not attending college or "being successful" to the extent she is unable to get married or have someone help her take care of her children. no nuance, no critical thinking.

This is exaclty it.

A lot of these, "I'm just pointing out statisitics" type chicks only care about Black men en masse - if it helps them get a husband - and he has to be the right type of man.

The funniest thing to me about the Howard losing men debate, is that Black women have always outnumbered Black Men in higher education. And those same AKAs is not giving any type of love to Jamal in Engineering, because he doesn't have any swag etc....

As Prof TH Johnson has been telling us - they're creating their own situation over there.

*shrugs*
 

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If I'm reading things right, moving black men from PWI -> HBCU might shift the gender diff w/i HBCUs (and your assumption is that this will be net positive but you don't show any data to support this) but doesn't actually do anything re: the overall difference in black men attending college.

In general, you should share your data/methodology, as opposed to making claims that data-illiterate people will just trust as sound and go along with.
 

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Inspired by this post from @get these nets which talks about how the current Howard undergrad population is only 19% Black men.


I pulled some numbers I downloaded from Department of Education tables (which I have on my drive since they may disappear soon)

A lot has been discussed about male academic achievement and recent years and in fact, compared to the peak in 2010 which was the tops for all men, Black and White male undergraduate populations have fallen by about 25% each. White men actually declined close to 26% while Black men declined 23%.

What is interesting though is the reason for the college achievement gap in the Black population. It is not because Black women are heading to college in ever greater numbers. In fact, they have fallen too---Black womens' numbers enrolled in undergrad have dropped 21% over the same period---it is just they aren't collapsing as fast. Part of this is demographics due to smaller populations in the new generation but the only groups increasing in college numbers are Hispanics and Asians due to demographics.

What seems to be happening at HBCUs though is that Black women are pivoting harder to HBCUs since their numbers there have only fallen 13% vs 21% for all college Black women. Black mens' attendance at HBCUs fell 25% over the same period closely matching their fall in the college population in general. So part of the big gender gap at HBCUs is that Black men seem to be less keen to switch to HBCUs from PWIs. for whatever reason.

Lot of factors going on but also from 2010 to 2024, for example, Howard's tuition doubled from $16k then to $32k now. That is just tuition and no other fees.

Here is what is interesting though---the college problem is hard to fix but the HBCU problem isn't---and it might actually get better really quickly.

There are 840k Black men in college but only 76k at HBCUs. Given the attack on DEI and other policies, if HBCUs stand, only a shift of 10-20% of Black men at PWIs would completely eliminate the gap. Not trying to get Black men out of prestigious schools but the Black populations at some larger state and prominent private schools are more than adequate to fix the gender gaps at HBCUs. It may come to that.
Interesting. back in the day Black Men where courted at PWI’s now that’s basically illegal.

No one will say that anything other than community is better at an HBCU and I say that as a HBCU grad.

I wonder why Black women are going to HBCU’s at a higher clip.

If I had to guess Black women always talk about being invisible in white spaces.

Go to wake forest and you’ll get a flyer dorm but possibly be ignored by Black amdn white guys Go to WSSU and at least you got a shot at action at some dikk.
 

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This means more non-FBA are making up the Black men in college.


" So part of the big gender gap at HBCUs is that Black men seem to be less keen to switch to HBCUs from PWIs. for whatever reason."
Anyone who’s ever been to an HBCU seen African students with advanced degrees go to an HBCU to get started on citizenship

Not mention West Indian athletes whole track team be Jamaican.

My boy Chima was a soccer star in Nigeria ended up punting for the Rams.
 
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