Black Feminist Explains Why She Dates White Men (Sound Logic?)

[bcrusaderw]

These more suiting?


Asian:

I mean why should it matter? They're all non-black which is the most important...

 

[Kitsch]

 

[Red Shield]

yall love talkin to a troll

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Many civil rights activists have dated out.

Frederick Douglas

Harry Belafonte

I mean there's a running joke that many pro black black men have Married non-black women in living colour.

Do you dudes have amnesia?

A woman will normally succumb to the ideology of her man.

It's extremely EXREMELY rare to see that play out in reverse

 

[Red Shield]

it's possible, but i think we'd have more hangs ups if we woke up white tomorrow. really, BM just want the wealth. (not even focused on the power, legacies, etc).

fukked up.. but that is true. BM don't care about the power and never think about building any legacies generally.


Dudes really just want floss and stunt

 

[philmonroe]

Damn this thread turned into war, lol.


Anyways, from my experience both BM and BW have fallen for the same white supremacy. I see both dating outside of their race at an alarming rate so I don't think this is something we should waste time arguing.

One really good point that was brought up here tho is that the more pro-black they act, the more likely they are to date outside their race. I've seen this personally in my life faaaaaarrrr too often for it to just be some kinda coincidence.

Im going to be honest my brother what place you at where its at alarming rates when in the whole damn country I think IR marriage is only at 10%. 10% of anything outside of big money isn't much IMO. Most people don't even have close friends of other races now everybody IR dating you been online too much and or live in a place where its happening more than usual.

No this thread is about me pointing out that a lot of Black women are two faced. Black women go on and on about successful Black men and athletes dating White women. However, you never hear a peep out of Black women when Serena and Venus Williams date White men. You never hear Black women lament that Vanessa Williams, Diana Ross, Dorothy Dandridge and Halle Barry etc., date and marry White men. But let Denzel Washington marry a White woman and then Black women won't shut the fukk up about it.

You don't hear Black men say anything about it one way or the other, because it is not our business.

In fairness to women at least on this site that stuff you kicking is bullshyt. Jokes or not Ive saw dudes call them chicks bedwench and the like for dating white men. I also agree my biggest problem with people of both genders is they aren't consistent. They'll call names when its the opposite gender but their own they got excuse by the truckload why its ok for them to IR date. Personally date who you want as long as you don't shyt on your own with them garbage excuses do you. End of the day who should really care what a bunch of people we probably never going to se think esp since they ain't paying no bills?

Yeah sure black men are not on the top list of white women desires, but we at least admit it. Sure black men who only date white women has severe self-hate issues, but most other times its true love and the black man actually likes his non-black partner and the relationship seems natural/organic. With black women and white men it doesnt seem organic or natural, it just seems the black women is trying to prove a point like, "LOOKS AT MEEEEZZZZ! Iz GOTZ ma a WHITE KNIGHT! SEE!? SEE!?"

Like I said to the poster above the stuff you kicking happens on both sides you just don't pay as much attention to the dudes because you're not dating them. I don't see it personally either way but people have said this about both genders at times who date out.

I do not care if white men do not find me attractive. The problem I do have is when the superior black genes God has given me to become the best athlete in my sport has reduced to articles lambasting my physique and saying a look like a man while an old wrinkled up cac decides to put on a dress and wig and is labeled as beautiful and heralded as courageous. That is disrespect and it should not be tolerated. you think it's okay for society to make a mockery out of serena and flotus bc they are not our men and we shouldn't care what they think? you are a trip.

I know you'll disagree but this is disingenuous with regards to the don't care about white men finding you attractive. All that other stuff you mentioned still leads to the same destination of why they don't give me my props. Also unless you're Serena they didn't disrespect you personally and also that's life too. I'm pretty sure you've said/thought somebody is ugly for one reason or another should they feel disrespected? Why do you care what they think if you don't want them? If they are holding you back from gainful employment and things to feed your family cool but basically complaining over why they not over you seems weird. We all make fun to other races do we not? Do you feel its worse because they have more media influence or something? Maybe that's the crux of the problem.

That is a really pathetic answer. Black men are to be leaders, not weak little cowards whining and complaining. Complaining about white men and being spiteful towards black women is a pathetic attitude to have. Grow some balls.

You know what black men can change...you can stop dissing black women and start calling out the men who do. Some of you do this already, but your voices aren't loud enough. It's not enough of you. Black women are making a lot of noise about constantly being disrespected and we shouldn't have to. Men should be leading that.

Black men can stop sitting around gossiping about black women's hairstyle choices and start building some businesses.

Black men can stop jacking off to the oppressor in a skirt, and start encouraging other men to leave that alone. Stop sleeping with the enemy and thinking you are really doing something productive.

Black men can stop excusing whoredom because they are "men" and start encouraging men to be responsible for the families they create.

That would change a whole lot about society. And I'm not even done yet.

Black men can accept some personal responsibility and stop adding fuel to the flames of gender wars. This is actually Biblical. This is in the Bible that black women would turn to forbidden men only because the men did it first. I will find the reference later.

As for what black women can do, that's not the subject so save it, and accept some responsibility this round. Man up. Be a leader. Encourage your women and they won't fall for this oppressor/savior BS.

I agree with some of this and other stuff is FOH worthy.

Some of us can't take the "disrespect" y'all claiming seriously. Its not even straight up disrespect most times its stuff like why want other talk nicely about us like we in 1st grade or some shyt. If we talking real disrespect I doubt any dude is really going for that but this is online where somebody can show me a twitter reply or something to verify it happened.

Black men can stop "jerking off" when y'all say something to y'all's sister about their shyt. I've never and I mean NEVER saw a chick IRL or online really say shyt about a chick dating out unless they were mad and or trying to snarky. I'm not on LSA or mostly female sites but do y'all say if so and so dating a white person or light skin dude y'all going to stop supporting their stuff like I hear when a dude dates out? Just be consistent on the same issue is all I ask from anybody.

I also don't see dudes condoning cats leaving their families ever. Maybe you got some access to threads I'm not privy to. Also I don't have problem with dudes being "whores" as log as they aren't lying about it. Y'all can be that way to but realize everybody might not want to deal with you if you behave that way. You can call it a double standard but most of y'all ain't doing shyt about the ones that benefit you so take the cons with the pros.

If dudes taking about hairstyles outside of saying it looks good bad on a chick I agree with you that's gotta go. I can also agree we could/need to start more businesses but everybody does period instead of just waiting for the few to make it then hoping they pull everybody through.

nikka plz

They got mexican "dimes" choosing to date short or fat mexicans.

I see this shyt everyday.

nikka please yourself you and @SuperCoolP_Cal must be living in fantasy land and or see all the outliers. Y'all the only two who see this at any sort of speakable clip from all these non black races. On top of that you know how I feel about "reasons" for folks not getting chooses but that's not for this thread.

I see what you are saying but allow me to play devil's advocate. If trying to change the mind's of non black men (since they decide society) why are we fighting against racism. so by your logic, its ok for the black race to accept their lower tier status and try to do nothing about that?
Yes we can improve relations between black men and women but is that gonna deter white supremacy?

I think racism is different. Like I said in an earlier quote to you racism can potentially stop you from making a living. That can never be acceptable that people can't make a living. Outside of that racism is gong to be what it is for the most part and I think we do well if you think about it. All of us have all the same basics (house, car, job, food) as any other group the only difference might be amount of money. Even that is more top heavy because its a lot of other groups living just like us in their section of the city. People don't like to hear this but I think a lot of people are living life just like the story of the elephant that thought he was chained but wasn't. You can do things our grandparents never could have dreamed off and cats think we don't have opportunities? We do even if some are limited by racism and bias. I still love this time period we are in now and the potential for major change we have. How many of our elders had the chance to have generational wealth? That alone is enough to get me like

 

[marcuz]

You dudes would be ecstatic.

why do you think we'd be ecstatic to be white? unlike BW, most of us don't admire their aesthetic features. yeah, nikkas may want the money and bedwenches. but a lot of y'all literally want to be white. like light skin, straight hair, blue eyes.

 

[Aceofspades404]

It doesn't matter, the root of your issue is white supremacy, and I put my work in the community and see black women on the front lines, organizing and funding events, I'm on the board for a big event in Liberty City next month funded by a Black woman. None of these revolutionary women I have seen and work with identify as a feminist, they know they are black first and know the root is white supremacy, all the woman issues have a root problem which is the white power structure, AKA White Supremacy

And I never said it was. If you are involving yourself with the betterment of black women, you are practicing womanism. i am looking at actions, you are looking at labels. These women do not identify as feminists bc they are not solely putting in work for black women. I am speaking as an individual. Yes, I'm a womanist, yes I'm pro black, yes I support and will fight for black men. my problem is you having a problem with how I identify myself.

 

[KOohbt]

so i guess it's a coli consensus. dating out and claiming pro black isn't logical or possible.

Anybody ever heard a "black feminist" talk about economics? Banking? Agriculture? Energy?

 

[Aceofspades404]

the more attention you give her, the more she continues. she's a truly disgusting individual. She will berate and belittle black men but when it's time for her to get some, it's a whole nother story. women like her make me sick

 

[CriticalThought]

We're gonna lose if this trend continues. The best thing that can be done is to round up all the black feminists/womanists and expel them from any type of activism that affects black people. Yes, it will hurt in the short term, but in the long term, we'll be stronger from it.

The problem is because said group has "dual loyalties". Plenty of them ride the fence. One foot on the black side, another on the woman side. That way they always win whenever each particular group makes strides.

We don't possess the resources to wage a 2 theater war. In doing so, resources that could be aimed at tackling issues that affect 100% of us "racism" get channeled to a group that consists of about 50% of us (I know there's more women in the world) "black feminists/womanists". In believing you can fight them simultaneously, that guarantees both groups lose in the long run. Because you'll never have the resources necessary to take down one enemy before going at the other.

They espouse a separatist ideology regardless of what they call themselves. Words and labels have meanings. The idea a feminist is equally for men is a joke. If it were true they'd call themselves egalitarians...and they don't for a reason. That brings up loyalty issues as well. Who are they more loyal to? That has implications.

If you had to go to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission because of a racial grievance (for this example) and the person who made the final call was a self-proclaimed skinhead, do you really believe you'd get a fair shake if you weren't white? Of course you wouldn't. Their label tells you who they're here for.

I just don't trust they wouldn't funnel resources that all of us could benefit from into their own cause.

 

[Gifted one]

And I never said it was. If you are involving yourself with the betterment of black women, you are practicing womanism. i am looking at actions, you are looking at labels. These women do not identify as feminists bc they are not solely putting in work for black women. I am speaking as an individual. Yes, I'm a womanist, yes I'm pro black, yes I support and will fight for black men. my problem is you having a problem with how I identify myself.

I don't care how you identify yourself, I'm just correcting where you're wrong, and no bettering black women isn't womanism, it is basic common sense, in that case every black person with knowledge of self is a womanist.

 

[Poitier]

Anybody ever heard a "black feminist" talk about economics? Banking? Agriculture? Energy?

 

[Blackout]

nikka please yourself you and @SuperCoolP_Cal must be living in fantasy land and or see all the outliers. Y'all the only two who see this at any sort of speakable clip from all these non black races. On top of that you know how I feel about "reasons" for folks not getting chooses but that's not for this thread.

Outliers my ass

Ive been to North and South Cali and Texas and seen this shyt for myself.

A bunch of fat and short mexicans still going with dime mexican women.

Where have you traveled buddy?

 

[Tropical Fantasy]

I don't get how one can be pro black or whatever and date outside their race. Although statistically speaking black men are married to more non black women compared to black women married to non black men I do see more pro black natural hair women with non black men. Both black men and black women suffer from a white Jesus complex.

Most black feminist are lying when they say that they can't find a good black men.

a lot of these women live in NYC and have the audacity to say that there arent any good black men here

I'm friends/associates/acquaintances with 75+ black men that are college graduates and/or gainfully employed, conscious, & that want to build with black women.

let's be 100% honest, many millennial black women are deathly afraid of a black male that has his shyt together