"Black Features Are Beautiful. Black Women Are Not" - Amandla Stenberg

[Draje]

You sound like a woman yourself. If you aren't a woman then you need to take the panties off and cut all of this whining shyt out.

One of the reasons that we live in a society that places a lot of a woman's value on how she looks is because women perpetuate that mentality themselves. Women will often times be the very first ones to judge each other on how they look. If women want to stop being judged on physical appearance then they need to stop doing it themselves first. It makes no sense to complain about a train of thought that you buy into. Let's not pretend as if women have no power in this society. When you look at the entertainment TV, women definitely have a lot of power over the images that we see.

No, I'm not going to respect black women constantly whining about not being seen as beautiful as white women in the eyes of white men. For one it's a pathetic look and 2, it's a waste of time. Black women are never going to be held up on pedestal in this society like white women as long white men are in control so stop about it. Posters have explained this but you obviously haven't taken the time to read those posts.

Women benefit, in lots of ways, from the importance placed on looks but acting as if they have the power to change it is erroneous at bet.

Are you gonna make the stupid argument that of black men stopped wearing hoodies and acting up, they wouldn't get shot? If black men want to stop getting treated like criminals, they gotta stop perpetuating that stereotype, right? Or are there extenuating circumstances that push black men into crime riddled circumstances? Same idea. Just because people use the system to their benefit doesn't mean they aren't victims to the same system. Rich c00ns use the system to their benefit but they still victims of white supremacy.

Black women aren't crying that white men aren't attracted to them. They're crying because they're attacked harder than any other group of women l, in America, from all sides and they don't feel like black men either ignore it like its not a big deal or join in.

Black men have no economic or financial power in America so they know we can't do much but they feel as if they at least deserve respect and the right to be defended by men that should be in their corner. Perception is half the battle (look at how black people are shown in the media) and dismiss it all you want but black women don't feel like black men are vocal about defending them.

 

[Gravity]

Black men enjoy privileges as men (though they are diminished a lot due to your race), so much like the average white isn't oppressing the average black (but benefitting from a system that does) your average black male isn't actively oppressing black women, but benefitting (ever so slightly) from a system that oppresses women (patriarchy).

You think that repeating the same thing over and over makes it true. That only works on sheep who can't think for themselves. You're lying. There is no universal systematic patriarchal system that benefits all men. There is only a white patriarchal system that benefits all white men. The fact that white women are more privileged in every way in this society than black men refutes the lie that your ideology is based on. You've got it ass backwards. The system is set up to keep the black community for being a patriarchy. The nerve of you comparing black men to whites who benefit from systematic racism. You're delusional.

Black men and black women face different issues and also the same issues. Much like racist whites black males can't see their own privilege which forces black women to create their own groups, so that their issues can be addressed.

I just hope that people understand what you're saying. This broad is comparing black men to white racists but then will deny that she and her bullshyt ideology are divisive. She accuses me of playing "oppression Olympics" while she sits there and accuses black men of being oppressors of black women. This is what black feminism is all about. Lying to black women, telling them that black men are their oppressors and that they must go at it alone. It's exactly why no black man or black woman should ever take black feminism seriously. You're completely and irrationally full of shyt and unwilling to stop being full of shyt.

 

[Poitier]

Lets not act as if Black women's femininity and vaginas, which could be of use to White men, does not mitigate Black women from economic and physical violence from White supremacy (not much), in comparison to Black men, who are the prime target given our assumed masculinity, yet you'd never hear "Black female privilege." Besides cheap labor which they can get for mere pennies via incarceration, the White supremacist state has no use for us Black men so don't talk to me about "Black male privilege."

 

[Gravity]

Women benefit, in lots of ways, from the importance placed on looks but acting as if they have the power to change it is erroneous at bet.

Are you gonna make the stupid argument that of black men stopped wearing hoodies and acting up, they wouldn't get shot? If black men want to stop getting treated like criminals, they gotta stop perpetuating that stereotype, right? Or are there extenuating circumstances that push black men into crime riddled circumstances? Same idea. Just because people use the system to their benefit doesn't mean they aren't victims to the same system. Rich c00ns use the system to their benefit but they still victims of white supremacy.

That's a stupid ass analogy. Women perpetuating a superficial society that judges them by their looks is nothing like black men being shot by police.

Black women aren't crying that white men aren't attracted to them. They're crying because they're attacked harder than any other group of women l, in America, from all sides and they don't feel like black men either ignore it like its not a big deal or join in.

The video that this thread is about is in plain English. We don't need you reinterpretation of what you think this is about. She was companion about white women being praised for shyt that black women aren't praised for. She was complaining about black women not being as appreciated by the mainstream public as white women are.

Black men have no economic or financial power in America so they know we can't do much but they feel as if they at least deserve respect and the right to be defended by men that should be in their corner. Perception is half the battle (look at how black people are shown in the media) and dismiss it all you want but black women don't feel like black men are vocal about defending them.

Well I'm not going to be vocal about some white chic wearing corn rows because it's a waste of time. Besides, it's like black women want to pick and choose when they want to stand against cultural appropriation. It's a problem when it's a white chic, but when it's a white dude not so much. They loved Timberlake until he shat on Janet(he still has black female fans). They loved Robin Thicke and along with any semi famous white dude that looks twice at a black women. So nah, I'm jumping up to defend them from some little white girl wearing corn rows.

 

[A Real Human Bean]

Lets not act as if Black women's femininity and vaginas, which could be of use to White men, does not mitigate Black women from economic and physical violence from White supremacy (not much), in comparison to Black men, who are the prime target given our assumed masculinity, yet you'd never hear "Black female privilege." Besides cheap labor which they can get for mere pennies via incarceration, the White supremacist state has no use for us Black men so don't talk to me about "Black male privilege."

I think some folks incorrectly conceive of "Black male privilege" like a math equation. As in, "You're a black male: black people lack privilege, but men have privilege, so that must mean that you're at least half as privileged as white men". But we know that's not the case. In many ways being a black male means we're subject to more oppression under this system of white supremacy, and without the aid of male privilege that white men enjoy.

 

[Tropical Fantasy]

I don't believe in bullshyt. Like I've said for the thousandth time no woman in his thread has said that sexism is greater than racism. Black men enjoy privileges as men (though they are diminished a lot due to your race), so much like the average white isn't oppressing the average black (but benefitting from a system that does) your average black male isn't actively oppressing black women, but benefitting (ever so slightly) from a system that oppresses women (patriarchy). Black men and black women face different issues and also the same issues. Much like racist whites black males can't see their own privilege which forces black women to create their own groups, so that their issues can be addressed.

name privileges exclusive to black men

 

[Moshe.]

When Black women want to look more white (weaves and the like) and suppress their own natural beauty, then of course, they will have to admit that the white standard is better than the Black.

When Black men talk about, "blacker the berry sweeter the juice", and, "black women are the most beautiful women on earth" then turn around and marry some white whore, they must admit, the white standard is better than the Black.

You orient yourself to what you're more inclined with, and since we live in a system of white supremacy, they dictate this standard to most Blacks and those same Blacks will agree to those standards set up by the whites. Of course that orientation is skewed from birth. The white standard of beauty becomes our worldview from birth. We see whores like Beyonce as the pinnacle of "Black beauty" (take note of quotations!) which is just an aberration of white beauty, and we see Black beauty in the form of overweight, ghastly women like Gabby Sidibe.


Calling it a double standard is naive. This is how their society functions. Why would a white society prop up images of a Black woman and her features as being a thing of beauty over the white woman? If you honestly think this flies in the real world, you are a child. It is up for the Black man and Black woman to reject the notion and keep it moving, building up their own parallel society that places natural Black beauty as the standard of beauty.

 

[Moshe.]

Sorry for the double post...

I think some folks incorrectly conceive of "Black male privilege" like a math equation. As in, "You're a black male: black people lack privilege, but men have privilege, so that must mean that you're at least half as privileged as white men". But we know that's not the case. In many ways being a black male means we're subject to more oppression under this system of white supremacy, and without the aid of male privilege that white men enjoy.

Typical Black feminist rhetoric. Like you said, Black males are subject to more oppression, and those dumb females cannot get it or understand why Black males are subject to more oppression. One of the reasons why a female should never lead.

 

[philmonroe]

Women benefit, in lots of ways, from the importance placed on looks but acting as if they have the power to change it is erroneous at bet.

Are you gonna make the stupid argument that of black men stopped wearing hoodies and acting up, they wouldn't get shot? If black men want to stop getting treated like criminals, they gotta stop perpetuating that stereotype, right? Or are there extenuating circumstances that push black men into crime riddled circumstances? Same idea. Just because people use the system to their benefit doesn't mean they aren't victims to the same system. Rich c00ns use the system to their benefit but they still victims of white supremacy.

Black women aren't crying that white men aren't attracted to them. They're crying because they're attacked harder than any other group of women l, in America, from all sides and they don't feel like black men either ignore it like its not a big deal or join in.

Black men have no economic or financial power in America so they know we can't do much but they feel as if they at least deserve respect and the right to be defended by men that should be in their corner. Perception is half the battle (look at how black people are shown in the media) and dismiss it all you want but black women don't feel like black men are vocal about defending them.

First bold I really wish people would stop using that heart string argument. Well if you believe this you believe that black men should be shot for wearing hoodies or some stupid shyt like that. Can't believe dudes really trying to compare dating to getting killed.

Second bold is garbage too they are complaining about white men or somebody not liking them. If they wasn't whats the purpose of the whining? Everybody isn't going to like you you can't strong arm people to do so using heart string tactics people love to use. Also regarding black men and looks its not a big deal and joining in what does that mean? Every black dude isn't like fukk black women they all ugly or whatever narritvie they trying to push so what are we supposed to do? Beat up or hurt anyone that dint agree with them about beauty? Makes no sense and its not like they like every dude either. That's why people can't be taken seriously they aren't consistent on their main views.

 

[Magic 8 Ball]

This is what happens when a little kid gets a platform.

 

[J@ne]

I've read the thread and I don't get denying that black women have been over sexualized. The most glaring example is that naked slave who was put on display for white people like it was a circus. Black women were raped by white men for centuries, the Arab slave trade allowed Arab men to use them as concubines for centuries, in Latin America when they wanted to get rid of blacks they would attack the males through violence and the women through sex and now many of those countries don't have much of a black population anymore i.e. Argentina.

Think how grown Taylor Swift was innocent during the Kanye incident but a white man recently called Mo'ne Davis a slut. She was what 13 and he was already thinking of her in sexual terms. If they can already see Tamir Rice as a violent adult black man why wouldn't they automatically see black girls as sexual beings even when they're underage?

& it makes sense that they do. If you want to absolve the man from centuries of rape you paint the victim as someone who was not really a victim like those girls R Kelly was messing with. So black women have been painted as Jezebels for centuries. & not just women but little girls. Personally, since she was a quadroon she isn't black to me but historically she was black. White people talk about Sally Hemmings like she was a grown woman and make it seem like Thomas Jefferson's relationship with her was so romantic. She was only 14 years old and was supposed to be the companion to his daughter who was either early teens or preteen age. Painting her as not innocent translates to people not seeing what Thomas did as wrong. In 12 years a Slave which is based off of a true story the slave master was already grooming that prepubescent black girl to take Patsy's place. I saw on some tv show years ago this white man saying that black girls mature faster so he molests them. Now most molestation is not going to be interracial but think about the damage that oversexualizing them can do.

Painting black women as not innocent also makes them easy targets IMO. Black women are disproportionately affected by gender specific abuse despite being such a small number of the population and are 3x more likely to die from it than WW. There was a white cop who raped black women and that got barely a response from the black community and this was somewhat recent. I wonder when he was thinking of raping them if he thought they are the perfect victims for me. First of all no one will believe I wanted them because black women are painted as undesirable (& by that women you screw but don't marry/not as beautiful as other women), there is a different response as mentioned to black victims as opposed to white ones (black girls who go missing vs. white ones), black women being over sexualized can have him thinking they can be portrayed as willing. He raped a lot of black women before he was caught.

I think it's serious because I've read online about how after this Confederate flag controversy black women have been saying that white men have been following them and trying to run them off the road. During Jim Crow era they would follow them and rape them and/or kill them. But I've seen dismissals of what black women go through with racism. That Charleston shooter was afraid of young black men. He did not feel that he could go to where they are so he went after the vulnerable so most of his victims were women. I'm sure there are more supremacists like him.

Anyways, as for black women wearing weaves and contacts I don't think that has to be to attract white men. I think it's to attract black men. I say this because they have no reason to think that black men think that Luptita or Janelle Monae are more attractive than light eyed weaved up Rihanna and Beyonce. They see men praising Instragram models where weaves, extensions, and contacts would be prevalent. Black people live in a white supremacist system with institutionalized racism. Obviously black people have internationalized white people's propoganda or else those doll videos wouldn't exist. So I think wanting the media to stop treating black women that way it doesn't have to be about appealing to white men. If anything swirlers think white men love natural hair for some reason which I personally don't think is true necessarily. But I wouldn't say women go natural for that.

My last point is on the Kylie thing. On the one hand yes the black community has bigger fish to fry but at the same time I think it's one of the examples of African Americans giving their culture away to white people. I don't think they realize that foreign blacks and foreigners in general like to say that African Americans have no culture. It's easy how they can think that. Think of Time magazine asking what bae meant. White people learn and then coopt what they do and then it becomes apart of not black culture but American culture which has whites at the forefront. AAs are complicit. Justin Timberlake and Bieber have black producers and writers. Elvis also had a black writer now rock music is associated with white people not black people.

 

[lKarukera]

This thread turned out (Once again) in a Black woman vs Black men. //sigh//

- Most Black men find Black women attractive. Obviously, you have some Black men who think Black women are ugly and that other races of women are prettier. Same goes for Black women.

that's all it boils down to with BW. they present this big smoke screen of complaints, but it all boils down to them not being in the WW's position. they want to be on the red carpet, the love interest in movies, the beauty standard in magazines. That's their major complaint on racism, petty beauty based bullshyt.

Some women like to be told they're pretty. Can you blame them ?
Do you think all Black women think they're pretty ? Do you think Black teenage girls wouldn't like to see a Black woman on TV/magazines ? A Black woman being a love interest ? So that they can at least dream ? I'm pretty sure that as a guy, this doesn't matter to you. But at least try to understand.
We're living in a world where Black women's features are seen as beautiful until they're on a Black woman. Black women are beautiful, because Black features are beautiful and desired. But not every Black girl knows that.

We do not want to be in White women's position. Some (Not to say many) White women are manipulative whores and everyone knows it. Black women deserve recognition for those features. And they barely ever do.

edit: this isn't about male promotion, this is about female promotion. do you see any asian women complaining about lack of promotion and being seen as undesirable?

Asian women are desired actually ..

Black women crying cause White men don't value them

You're the one talking about White male validation. @Poitier have I ever asked you what race you were ?

 

[Poitier]

You're the one talking about White male validation. @Poitier have I ever asked you what race you were ?

my dikk black

 

[lKarukera]

my dikk black

OoOo .. Nice ..

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Bump for those who forgot, Why does the young disney star get praise in the other thread but this girl gets shytting on in 35 pages ?