"Black Features Are Beautiful. Black Women Are Not" - Amandla Stenberg

[Milk N Cookies]

I just read on hellobeutiful (somewhat due to a fukking ad blocking most of the article) that Elle UK is saying that baby hair is what's hot now. Baby hair. I'm sick of this shyt.

 

[Arishok]

well, I can just give my analysis from my own point of view (not saying i'm necessarily correct)

Most women, as a collective, want their men to appreciate them first and foremost before other men do.


I feel like the reason why black women always complain about other women engaging in cultural appropriation is because they dislike that they wont get the recognition or ownership of something that they were looked down upon for having/doing.
but now all of a sudden, it becomes a new fad when a woman of another ethnicity makes it more appealing to the mainstream, meanwhile getting more attention, which leads to more $$$$$$. Even if its something demeaning like twerking.

But Like I said, IMO the root of all this dissatisfaction is based on black men not laying down the structure and controlling anything in their communities from the economics to the media images.

Its even worse in America b/c women are bombarded with images of beautiful dainty white women(and asian women and hispanic women), meanwhile black women are shown as aggressive and angry and tough with nothing to counteract these negative images( which will in-turn make other races of men see view black women as more appealing beyond just a quick lay or 'slumming' .)

The only thing we got in America right now is rap videos (which are full of biracial and mixed latin women) and basketball wives/ Love and hip hop /RHW of ATL and even that is not all that good because, yeah they got beautiful women on these videos and shows but they still act tacky with no class whatsoever.


Its almost inevitable to not be affected by those images living in America or Europe being a minority, lack of resources, and lack of parental support and positive reinforcement from the media and parents as well.

For me it's not even that. I've seen with my own eyes what eurocentric standards of beauty does to young black girls self esteem.

You see young black girls wanting to straighten their hair, lighten thier skin, and picking dolls that look nothing like them because they prettier than the black ones.

This is why I take issue with white media, I'm sure everyone in this thread has seen the doll test video at least once where young black children think the darkest child is the ugliest, the baddest, and the dumbest. Can't blame nothing else but white supremacy/white mass media.

Like I said before the issue is a lot deeper than Kylie Jenner wearing braids, she's just a scapegoat.

 

[How Sway?]

I agree but also people need parents or somebody to teach them better self esteem. Also maybe some people really just aren't attractive it happens and they just trying to use the I'm black stuff as a weak cop out. I just really hate hearing/seeing grown people talk about how everybody isn't fawning over them basically get over yourself

Yeah, Without Parents' positive reinforcement and ones own self-affirmation, its easy to become brainwashed by media outlets that dont always show people who look like you in a positive light....

As far as people complaining about other groups not wanting them, I honestly think black people spend way too much time talking about that and thinking bout that stuff( although I know why we do, I just wish we'd do more action instead of always talking and debating about this stuff)

. I could go on all day but we need to just focus on ourselves and our own 'empowerment' and folks need to focus on their individual selves as well. Cant get other people to love you if you dont love and respect your self and take ownership of your own image

People generally dont have your best intertest at heart.

 

[How Sway?]

For me it's not even that. I've seen with my own eyes what eurocentric standards of beauty does to young black girls self esteem.

You see young black girls wanting to straighten their hair, lighten thier skin, and picking dolls that look nothing like them because they prettier than the black ones.

This is why I take issue with white media, I'm sure everyone in this thread has seen the doll test video at least once where young black children think the darkest child is the ugliest, the baddest, and the dumbest. Can't blame nothing else but white supremacy/white mass media.

Like I said before the issue is a lot deeper than Kylie Jenner wearing braids, she's just a scapegoat.

Like I said, If you have no alternative media outlets that Counteracts White media, (in addition to the negative stereotypes that they give off), then little girls are gonna want to mimmick what they see as positive in their own minds. I agree that it is their fault, But I dont really expect white people to accommodate to our liking (not saying we should just be satifised with that way our image is in the media)

this is something we gotta do ourselves. Not you and me in particular, but those who have enough money, connections, and wisdom to do so....

 

[marcuz]

I just read on hellobeutiful (somewhat due to a fukking ad blocking most of the article) that Elle UK is saying that baby hair is what's hot now. Baby hair. I'm sick of this shyt.

BW need to monetize cultural appropriation. there's white women out here giving twerking gym lessons in LA, the shyt makes no sense

 

[How Sway?]

BW need to monetize cultural appropriation. there's white women out here giving twerking gym lessons in LA, the shyt makes no sense

i actually remember bringing this idea up a couple years ago back when miley cyrus was twerking at the VMA's.

Somebody on here even suggested that I find some girls to actually do the classes while I tape the sessions and put them out on dvd's and on the youtube , too bad i couldn't find any girls willing to do it though

 

[DabbinSauce]

I just read on hellobeutiful (somewhat due to a fukking ad blocking most of the article) that Elle UK is saying that baby hair is what's hot now. Baby hair. I'm sick of this shyt.

I looked up the article so you can't say I don't care

Babygirl, these people have been stealing from us since the slave days and them whites from the UK is just as bad. The Brits did the same shyt in the 50s and 60s with Elvis, the Beatles and Stones and all that stealing Rock and Blues music. As soon as I seen that tweet I immediately felt shades of the so-called British invasion(basically a bunch of crackers from the UK introducing white Americans to the music of black Americans imagine that). The British youths basically look up to African American culture from every era, without sounding arrogant it seems that most of the world does. This shyt will never end. At least the yokels from the UK are more inclined to give credit where credit is due. The yokels from America tend to claim our shyt as their own or as colorless American culture

 

[Poitier]

Black people need to create our own artistic/media platform that shows positive images of black beauty that appeals to us.

With what money?

And BM can praise BW's beauty all day but if Cac media doesn't then its an issue

 

[How Sway?]

Let's talk about a little movie called Dope (a very recent example. Black director, black screen-writer, and a mostly black cast (at least the males were). They had no problem using actual black men as actors, but every single female character was light/mixed. I won't even discuss the disturbing colorism in Nollywood.

discuss what? B/c most nollywood films i've seen have dark/brown skin women as love interests.

It makes sense since most of nigeria is dark/brownskin until you get to the north.

the only example of European brainwashing i've seen in Nollywood films are the ridiculous weaves and wigs

 

[Will Ross]

White men have did far more cultural appropriation than any group.
But I don't see black women calling them out.

 

[Poitier]

White men have did far more cultural appropriation than any group.
But I don't see black women calling them out.

 

[Arishok]

White men have did far more cultural appropriation than any group.
But I don't see black women calling them out.

I on people like Sam Smith, Macklemore, Justin Bieber, Justin Timberlake, etc.

 

[Lana del Rey]

White men have did far more cultural appropriation than any group.
But I don't see black women calling them out.

I see black women on social media calling them out. Both white women and white men are problematic when it comes to culture appropriation so

 

[philmonroe]

Yeah, Without Parents' positive reinforcement and ones own self-affirmation, its easy to become brainwashed by media outlets that dont always show people who look like you in a positive light....

As far as people complaining about other groups not wanting them, I honestly think black people spend way too much time talking about that and thinking bout that stuff( although I know why we do, I just wish we'd do more action instead of always talking and debating about this stuff)

. I could go on all day but we need to just focus on ourselves and our own 'empowerment' and folks need to focus on their individual selves as well. Cant get other people to love you if you dont love and respect your self and take ownership of your own image

People generally dont have your best intertest at heart.

Quoted for truth

 

[Milk N Cookies]

Go to st0rmfr0nt and reddit to complain then. Stop begging white men to find you beautiful, it's not enough that black men love you and you love yourself. You bedwenches always need white men approval

I don't want the approval of white men. I don't need a man to make myself feel beautiful. U know good & well I ain't no damn bedwench