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So @marcuz, why don't you define what you think a matriarchy is and explain why you erroneously believe the Black community to be one.

If Black women had children and dropped them off in adoption centers and/or signed over all rights to their Black fathers, that would = a patriarchy, right? :sas1:
 

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You say the thing about trade as if this helps your point. Women will not be hired for those jobs because of preconceived notions about women's abilities. Also, even in positions that both men and women are equally represented, women will be paid less. And whole professions that are thought of as more feminine get paid less. Back in the day, teaching used to be a male profession. Today, teacher's earn very poor wages, because it became associated with women. Same thing with executive assistants and nurses. And let's not get into management roles, because women won't be considered like men will. That's across racial lines. And our wealth gap isn't all that minimal when you consider that people with degrees out earn people without degrees and Black women as a whole have far more degrees than Black men.

Black women are not allowed to exercise their sexuality as they want without taking criticism for it. Black women are not allowed to doll themselves up as other women do without being called fake and unnatural. Black women can't call out racism we face from other women because we will be called jealous. Black women cannot point out sexism we face because it will be deemed unimportant or divisive. Black women also aren't allowed to wear their hair natural without criticism and pressure from non-Blacks, and pressure from Black men that it must be this curly and this long to be acceptable. Black women do not get to use racism as a crutch for anything in our lives, we just have to grin and bear everything. Black women do not have the freedom to contribute the bare minimum to their children's development, and still be considered good parents.

Who said anything about cool? Men are associated with being more logical, more capable of reasoning, less petty, emotionally stronger... You also have male associated things valued more in society, such as sports, while female associated things are devalued, such as reality tv and fashion. You probably don't even see anything wrong with any of that because you actually believe it to be true and fine. That is because you live in a patriarchal society and always have.

This is the part where you pretend to not understand anything I've said and fail to combat any points, only to quote me again a month from now and pretend I've only ever talked about the church.



And you quote this one video every time :dead:

Just because some women are uninformed about what a matriarchy is, does not give your case greater credence.
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there is no comparison, just oppression olympics. there's been about 4 black males killed within the few days by law enforcement, BW don't have to worry about those problems.

More white men are killed by law enforcement than white women too. Men react violently or encounter police in already violent situations compared to women. The percentage of Black men that will be abused or murdered by police violence vs. Black women and the percentage that will face domestic and sexual abuse though actually is incomparable.

Also when Black men are abused by police, no one cares if they were saints or drug dealers, their humanity will be defended. If a Black woman is raped, within a minute of her coming forward everyone will want to pry into her sexual past and to use as a justification as to how she's lying or she brought it on herself.
 

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@bcrusaderw please direct this man to the black women and violence thread in the salon.
I'm sure @marcuz knows all about it. Black women disproportionately face violence against the police just like black men do. Men as a whole are much more violent than women, so that is why those stats are the way they are. Black women also have higher rates of INTRAracial violence than any other group of women (except Native Americans). They already know this. They just don't care because they are the perpetrators of said violence most of the time.
 

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Men as a whole are much more violent than women, so that is why those stats are the way they are.

A product of the same patriarchy/maculinity you feminist say "damages men more than women"

Black women also have higher rates of INTRAracial violence than any other group of women (except Native Americans).

A product of the poverty/economics you feminist suspiciously never discuss
 

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You say the thing about trade as if this helps your point. Women will not be hired for those jobs because of preconceived notions about women's abilities.

wrong, women simply dont want to do the dirty jobs that keep america running. you want the comfy, air conditioned, desk jobs.

Also, even in positions that both men and women are equally represented, women will be paid less. And whole professions that are thought of as more feminine get paid less.

black men earn pennies more than black women, while we both still earn less than asian women and white women. so how is it a patriarchal issue and not a racial issue?

Black women are not allowed to exercise their sexuality as they want without taking criticism for it. Black women are not allowed to doll themselves up as other women do without being called fake and unnatural.

oh cut the shyt, we have too many proud whores as is. i wish we had a patriarchal community to keep BW in line, but we dont.

Black women can't call out racism we face from other women because we will be called jealous. Black women cannot point out sexism we face because it will be deemed unimportant or divisive.

more lies. just visit any of these sites for black women. y'all do nothing but call out white women and black men, while conveniently leaving white men out of your rampage.

Black women also aren't allowed to wear their hair natural without criticism and pressure from non-Blacks, and pressure from Black men that it must be this curly and this long to be acceptable. Black women do not get to use racism as a crutch for anything in our lives, we just have to grin and bear everything.

these complaints really have nothing to do with proof of a patriarchal structure. naturals claim cacs accept their natural hair more than black folks, so which is it? BW dont use racism as a crutch because most of you dont believe it affects your lives. BW use BM as their scapegoat for everything wrong in their lives.

Black women do not have the freedom to contribute the bare minimum to their children's development, and still be considered good parents.

but that's what's already happening. you can't even criticize a single mother, despite how poorly she raised you. as evidenced by this thread:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/deep-down-i-think-i-hate-my-mom-anyone-else-feel-this-way.336312/

Who said anything about cool? Men are associated with being more logical, more capable of reasoning, less petty, emotionally stronger... You also have male associated things valued more in society, such as sports, while female associated things are devalued,

men value sports more than women, how is that our fault? men build stadiums, men predominately fill the seats, men are the ones interested in the game. it sucks that female teams dont get as much press, or earn the same money--but that's your fault as a gender. if women lined the seats, y'all would give womens sports more value. keeping in mind, there's more women in this country than men.

such as reality tv and fashion. You probably don't even see anything wrong with any of that because you actually believe it to be true and fine. That is because you live in a patriarchal society and always have.

are you really claiming we exist in a black patriarchy because men don't collectively view reality tv and fashion as important? :dead:

This is the part where you pretend to not understand anything I've said and fail to combat any points, only to quote me again a month from now and pretend I've only ever talked about the church.

you didn't present anything to imply a patriarchal structure in the black community. BW run the homes, BW run the communities, there are no opportunities or restrictions being placed on you from BM. BW can do whatever they want without the consent of BM, and there's nothing we could do to stop you.

Just because some women are uninformed about what a matriarchy is, does not give your case greater credence.

she's not uninformed, you're uninformed. she broke down very specifically why it's a matriarchy and you cant refute her.
 

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Black women crying cause White men don't value them :laff:
that's all it boils down to with BW. they present this big smoke screen of complaints, but it all boils down to them not being in the WW's position. they want to be on the red carpet, the love interest in movies, the beauty standard in magazines. That's their major complaint on racism, petty beauty based bullshyt.

"oh-oh, how come kylie jenner can wear cornrolls. whaaaaaaa :sadcam: "
 

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Thoughts?

Is this supposed to be deep or something :dwillhuh:
Black women are oppressed in America? No shyt. Who the hell didn't know that. I'll be impressed when these people start asking cacs to explain their behavior (something they've never had to do). Have them explain why they hate black women's body's. Have them explain why they ripped the babies out of the stomachs of black women. Have them explain why black women are oppressed.

I wanna hear these devils answer for their crimes, not state the obvious.
 

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that's all it boils down to with BW. they present this big smoke screen of complaints, but it all boils down to them not being in the WW's position. they want to be on the red carpet, the love interest in movies, the beauty standard in magazines. That's their major complaint on racism, petty beauty based bullshyt.

"oh-oh, how come kylie jenner can wear cornrolls. whaaaaaaa :sadcam: "

Not all BW. Privileged BW who never stepped foot in the hood.

nikkas being phased out of the job market but this group of BW worried about fake lips and ass and on other hand are okay with men/trannies appropriating those same features :pachaha:
 

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wrong, women simply dont want to do the dirty jobs that keep america running. you want the comfy, air conditioned, desk jobs.

Receipts?

Also, you must not be familiar with caretaking if you think its not a dirty job. But compare that to what your man's man's manly jobs make.

black men earn pennies more than black women, while we both still earn less than asian women and white women. so how is it a patriarchal issue and not a racial issue?

Because it shows Black women are being effected by two negative forces, something you all want to go to your graves denying because you don't want to be responsible for any oppression that you cause.

oh cut the shyt, we have too many proud whores as is. i wish we had a patriarchal community to keep BW in line, but we don't.

No rebuttal just conjecture.

more lies. just visit any of these sites for black women. y'all do nothing but call out white women and black men, while conveniently leaving white men out of your rampage.

No rebuttal just conjecture.

these complaints really have nothing to do with proof of a patriarchal structure.
Its on you to provide that this isn't a patriarchy, despite all evidence listed to the contrary.

naturals claim cacs accept their natural hair more than black folks, so which is it?

Do you have a poll of some sort where Black women stated this? I'd like to see it please, thanks.

BW dont use racism as a crutch because most of you dont believe it affects your lives.

:mjlol:

BW use BM as their scapegoat for everything wrong in their lives.

As opposed to you, the person who says Black women re at fault for Black men's lack of achievement because we don't force them to be better by rationing out sex and because we somehow force their Black fathers to leave them.

but that's what's already happening. you can't even criticize a single mother, despite how poorly she raised you. as evidenced by this thread:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/deep-down-i-think-i-hate-my-mom-anyone-else-feel-this-way.336312/

I think you need to go outside. No offense, but for real. Everything I stated in my post are statistics you can look up and see are true, from the wage gap to the profession wage gap, to domestic violence statistics. But this is like the 3rd time you've attempted to use a forum or some random online video as your evidence. :francis:
 
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