Black family in Georgia passed down a song through the centuries after slavery. Researchers linked song to Mende tribe in West Africa.

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I am not African. I am Black American (ADOS). My ancestors left Africa a few hundred years ago.

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It finally dawned on me. These ABOS etc. are descendants of those that supported the confederacy. I have the sources to back it up, after I spend sometime in these ABOS spaces. I am not going tor reveal from where I got it and how. Solely for strategic purposes.

 
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It finally dawned on me. These ABOS etc. are descendants of those that supported the confederacy. I have the sources to back it up, after I spend sometime in these ABOS spaces. I am not going tor reveal from where I got it and how. Solely for strategic purposes.


THAT might get you banned/bushed, I suggest leaving it alone.
 

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Getting to the nitty gritty of this part of American history is dangerous?


Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. and Yes.

I once drew comparison to those who sold their brothers/sisters in Africa
To those who fought for the confederacy or have selfish treaties, like the maroons of Jamaica
To those who Sold their brothers/sisters out during civil rights
To now those who are republican conservative trumpians today

SAME BLOODLINE
hundreds of years later
SAME BLOODLINE
 

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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. and Yes.

I once drew comparison to those who sold their brothers/sisters in Africa
To those who fought for the confederacy or have selfish treaties, like the maroons of Jamaica
To those who Sold their brothers/sisters out during civil rights
To now those who are republican conservative trumpians today

SAME BLOODLINE
hundreds of years later
SAME BLOODLINE
A lot of this ABOS stuff etc space is controlled by white confederates. Are you saying the Maroons of Jamaica fought for the confederacy? Is that what I am reading, or is that a misinterpretation?

 

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A lot of this ABOS stuff etc space is controlled by white confederates. Are you saying the Maroons of Jamaica fought for the confederacy? Is that what I am reading, or is that a misinterpretation?


The maroons of Jamaica are said to have hunted/returned slaves.
Supposedly a part of their treaty with the british.

Any slave who ran to them, would be returned.

Depending on how you view things.
They fought for theirs, and anybody who stayed on the plantations they probably viewed as a bytch or snitch

Just as some blk folks might have fought for the confederacy cause it made sense
Was strategic

Folks can talk all the shyt they want today
Yet back then you worried about your granny, grandfather, children, and those who are HELPLESS

So whether Maroons or Confederate Blks, they might have had good reasons.
 

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The maroons of Jamaica are said to have hunted/returned slaves.
Supposedly a part of their treaty with the british.

Any slave who ran to them, would be returned.
Ok, never heard of that before. I was under the assumption the Maroon settlements only had runaway slaves and was a safe haven for runaway slaves. At least, that is what it was in other places in the Americas, outside of Jamaica.

Depending on how you view things.
They fought for theirs, and anybody who stayed on the plantations they probably viewed as a bytch or snitch.
That is indeed the overall and logical sentiment. But it seems like a contradiction to the first statement. Because a runaway slave is the exact opposite of the snitch. Maybe I’m overthinking / overlooking something.

Just as some blk folks might have fought for the confederacy cause it made sense
Was strategic
From what I was told it was because they were promised freedom.

The irony however is that the conference was founded by Democrats at the time, not Republicans.

Of course this is within the history of political alignment and realignment, which makes it even more complicated. This is why in both parties there’s this systemic racism toward Blacks.



Folks can talk all the shyt they want today
Yet back then you worried about your granny, grandfather, children, and those who are HELPLESS.
I have no idea what they were talking and thinking about, as I have not read memorials. I assume what you say could be true.

So whether Maroons or Confederate Blks, they might have had good reasons.

I’m confused by this statement. From what I know, Maroon settlements in the USA aren’t the same as the Maroon settlement in Jamaica.

I do think Maroon settlements inspired one another to rebel. This is eventually is what caused slavery to become abolished.

“After the maroon communities were established, women and children joined the runaways. Knowledge of the maroons is an essential part of African-American history. It has been written that during the Civil War after the Union Army began the active and open recruitment of Black troops, many men from maroon communities joined the Union Army and fought against the Confederacy.
 
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@HarlemHottie, @RehReh, @Nkrumah Was Right,

Below in the video is Bethy, the transatlantic slavery black holocaust denier. Claiming at 56:42 her grandmother used to be the most famous banana pudding chef. I decided to look up the origin of this dish. The irony is that as an African root, while she denies to have African roots.

The overall conversation is the difference between the North and South. She also claimed that Andrew Jackson and well known child rapist Thomas Jefferson were black. Bethy goes on claiming that John Hanson was the first Black president (1:13:00). Some young Black girl (Robinson Quoia) called in, "acknowledging the information" and how "wild" it actually is (2:23:40).

Of course this girl is completely unaware of the actual information, that the Black John Hanson the Liberian senator during the mid-19th century, is not the same person as John Hanson the first president of the original United States government chartered by the Articles of Confederation in 1781. Bethy uses an unknown source (to most) and acts confused on the actual information.

A guy named Theodore Breadon, with an unknown background, claims all presidents were Black, up until the late 1800s. Of course he gives no source or reference material. Some guy named Henotnice SY (He not nice) makes it even crazier… It comes down to that they hate what the Union from the North has done to the Confederacy for the South. They hate Abraham Lincoln for abolishing slavery, and that was mentioned by Theodore. Because of that Theodore has disdain for Abraham Lincoln. It was repeated by Henotnice (2:49:00) as Bethy adds: "so Lincoln didn't free the slaves, he sold us out". Henotnice confirms, yes. Henotnice denies the enter history of slavery in America (13 colonies) as we know it.

And yes, it can get scarier. "Ali Baba Heru" (yep), he exceeds everybody with crazy mind dribble and he is the embodiment of the rabbit hole goes deep (3:08:00), the civil war never happened according to "Ali Baba Heru" 3:30:00.

Bethy claims these presents were Black and they are responsible for slavery, black codes etc, she absolves whiteness from this all together (3:24:00).



Is banana pudding a Black thing?
“Netflix’s original series, High On The Hog, exposed many so-called American fruits and vegetables that are actually African motherland derivatives.

This is because African foods were brought over to North America during the horrific slave trade – the origin of how banana pudding has African American history.”


“Banana pudding traces its origins to several African desserts that use similar ingredients. When Africans were brought to North America, they adapted their recipes to the ingredients available, such as bananas and sweetened condensed milk. This fusion of cultures resulted in a uniquely American dessert that embodies the resilience and creativity of the African American community.”

 
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This is the reason why I can’t fukk with clowns who try to say “we’re not African, we’re indigenous to this land.”

You’re disrespecting your ancestors who suffered through shyt like this so that your ungrateful ass can be here today.

You don’t wanna identify with Africa? Cool. But don’t disown your ancestors.
It's mainly the c00ns doing that shyt
 

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from egyptian, nubian moors to jews to aboriginals

it don't stop... even when your DNA is mapped to West Africa and the sea ports of exit still exist in the region

black people documented the passage too. you don't have to rely on white people dumb ass. make belief bullshyt vs genetic data

it's not even a fair match. :mjlol:
In all fairness, he's right, black folks been everywhere.
 

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Ok, never heard of that before. I was under the assumption the Maroon settlements only had runaway slaves and was a safe haven for runaway slaves. At least, that is what it was in other places in the Americas, outside of Jamaica.


That is indeed the overall and logical sentiment. But it seems like a contradiction to the first statement. Because a runaway slave is the exact opposite of the snitch. Maybe I’m overthinking / overlooking something.


From what I was told it was because they were promised freedom.

The irony however is that the conference was founded by Democrats at the time, not Republicans.

Of course this is within the history of political alignment and realignment, which makes it even more complicated. This is why in both parties there’s this systemic racism toward Blacks.




I have no idea what they were talking and thinking about, as I have not read memorials. I assume what you say could be true.



I’m confused by this statement. From what I know, Maroon settlements in the USA aren’t the same as the Maroon settlement in Jamaica.

I do think Maroon settlements inspired one another to rebel. This is eventually is what caused slavery to become abolished.

“After the maroon communities were established, women and children joined the runaways. Knowledge of the maroons is an essential part of African-American history. It has been written that during the Civil War after the Union Army began the active and open recruitment of Black troops, many men from maroon communities joined the Union Army and fought against the Confederacy.

If you ran away from the plantation, fought, strategized, then when I saw your plans worked, I tried to join you.
You might not take me in.

If your mother, granny, babies, elderly, and HELPLESS would be punished and or killed
Your decisions concerning how you would rebel would be different

You might even choose to join the "enemy" because it is a good strategic decision
Doing it for those who are HELPLESS

See I keep on using that word?
Maybe you and I could fight and not care what happens to us
Saying you do not care what happens to those in your family and who cannot fight
Is cruel

So yes many throughout history have had to make hard decisions

The best way to get an insight into a person is to ask certain questions

For example, how would YOU have rebelled or dealt with slavery?
Fight and burn the plantation
Or do as what the family did, pass down songs and be strategic
Things like breaking the machines or poison master slowly
Or be a "c00n" in the house, learn to read, and teach others.
 

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If you ran away from the plantation, fought, strategized, then when I saw your plans worked, I tried to join you.
You might not take me in.

If your mother, granny, babies, elderly, and HELPLESS would be punished and or killed
Your decisions concerning how you would rebel would be different

You might even choose to join the "enemy" because it is a good strategic decision
Doing it for those who are HELPLESS

See I keep on using that word?
Maybe you and I could fight and not care what happens to us
Saying you do not care what happens to those in your family and who cannot fight
Is cruel

So yes many throughout history have had to make hard decisions

The best way to get an insight into a person is to ask certain questions

For example, how would YOU have rebelled or dealt with slavery?
Fight and burn the plantation
Or do as what the family did, pass down songs and be strategic
Things like breaking the machines or poison master slowly
Or be a "c00n" in the house, learn to read, and teach others.
I have never heard about any of this pertaining Maroon populations. It seems like alternative history. Perhaps it was the case at Jamaica? But I am not Jamaican, so I can't deny nor confirm.
 

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I have never heard about any of this pertaining Maroon populations. It seems like alternative history. Perhaps it was the case at Jamaica? But I am not Jamaican, so I can't deny nor confirm.

You forced me to google. These things are complexed. As to why certain decisions were made.

I would imagine if we cannot trust each other today, it was worse then.


"The freedom of the Maroons was recognised and their land was given to them. The Maroons were to govern themselves. In return they would support the British government in Jamaica against foreign invasion and would help capture rebel slaves and runaways from the plantations and return them to their owners."
 

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You forced me to google. These things are complexed. As to why certain decisions were made.
I didn’t force nobody. It was just weird to me, considering I know about other Maroon history that doesn’t have this particular phenomenon.

I would imagine if we cannot trust each other today, it was worse then.


"The freedom of the Maroons was recognised and their land was given to them. The Maroons were to govern themselves. In return they would support the British government in Jamaica against foreign invasion and would help capture rebel slaves and runaways from the plantations and return them to their owners."
Ok, that odd. And a rare occasion for Jamaica.
 

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In all fairness, he's right, black folks been everywhere.
In all fairness, where is this evidence? These things are from old and outdated anthropology.

It’s true that the world was populated by people of color, but that doesn’t make us all “Black” in the sense as we know it now to be with modern science.

We now know and understand genetic drifts, bottleneck occurrence and sex base, amongst other things that influence human diversity, such as situ development etc.. that influence genetic mutations.
 
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