Black conservative on what it was like growing up in the 50s and 60s

Gritsngravy

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I used bait for the title thinking yall would at least listen.
In the second video breh even speaks on some of the shyt yall brought up in this thread.

nikkas spent zero time listening to these vids but triggered from a black man wanting his own

and im the confused one!? :skip:

shyt is crazy.
you tell black folks to create businesses and support their own and you get called a c00n.

A large number of black men, have a feminine mindset and want other men to help them/take care of their problems :francis:
People who talk like this be the goofiest mfs, y’all just need to keep comments to yall selves when discussing black issues cause these bullshyt talking points ain’t moving the needle
 

BobbyWojak

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I think we are speaking past each other a bit, with me pointing to social issues, and you pointing to economics(socialism).

Definitely not, this is what you wrote: Most black people are conservative, we just don't rock with the Republican party.

My point is, Black voters are mostly socially liberal aside from a handful of issues and rarely, if ever, support conservative economic policy. We are not speaking past each other, your argument just doesn't add up when we look at the issues. Black voters do not favor privatization, limited government, civil liberty over civil rights, or nominating originalist judges (despite being religious); how can you say Black people are conservative when we largely disagree with the core beliefs of conservatism? Socially and economically Black people are not largely conservative, it's a myth, being family oriented and religious doesn't make someone right wing.
I'm arguing that historically the black church has dictated our political leanings, and skewed us conservative… but racism forced us to vote blue.
:heh: Churches were some of the most trusted meeting places for Black unions during the mid 1800s through to the reconstruction era. A guy you might know, Martin Luther King Jr. a baptist minister, was probably the most vocal civil rights leaders when it came to left politics in the mainstream.

When you say the church skewed us conservative, what are you specifically referencing?

…but shoot me some links to read further on it, I can definitely be wrong.

I'm much more interested in the reading you've done to lead you to your view, 'most Black people are conservative because of the church' is something people always say with little to no pushback.
 

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I'm much more interested in the reading you've done to lead you to your view, 'most Black people are conservative because of the church' is something people always say with little to no pushback.

Most articles exit polls i come across point to blacks leaning more right then left and slowly becoming more liberal as time goes on.

In 2019, about four-in-ten black Democratic voters called themselves moderate, while smaller shares described their views as liberal (29%) or conservative (25%). By contrast, 37% of Hispanic and 55% of white Democratic voters identified as liberal.
But black voters aren’t the monolith exit polls make them out to be. Pew Research Center found that a quarter of black Democrats identify as conservative, and 43 percent identify as moderate.

Appears blacks are overwhelmingly moderate.:hubie: I stand corrected.
Link me to where you're seeing the majority of blacks are liberal. :feedme:



being family oriented and religious doesn't make someone right wing.
Agreed.
 

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You simply cant be a self respecting black man and support todays republican party, a party openly hostile to black people, who want to ban books about racism and white supremacy, who fight tooth and nail to enact voting laws to disenfranchise black people, who always support racist cops no matter how vile and evil there behavior, the GOP/republicans are for white people
 

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I used bait for the title thinking yall would at least listen.
In the second video breh even speaks on some of the shyt yall brought up in this thread.

nikkas spent zero time listening to these vids but triggered from a black man wanting his own

and im the confused one!? :skip:

shyt is crazy.
you tell black folks to create businesses and support their own and you get called a c00n.
You get called a c00n for pretending that life for black folks was better under segregation.
 

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I think this is true right now, but if Black voters were a more organized coalition within the democratic party, and we didn't have the spectre of far right republican rule hanging over our heads, I'd go so far to say most would shift to a more social democratic type of position economically. The moderate liberal tradition amongst Black people in the US is mainly a compromise for the party, when I was canvasing the last primary, even older Black voters agreed with the policies but voted more moderately for a 'safer bet'.
This.
 

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Most articles exit polls i come across point to blacks leaning more right then left and slowly becoming more liberal as time goes on.
mingly moderate. I stand corrected.
Link me to where you're seeing the majority of blacks are liberal.

Since you've avoided my questions and refused to engage with my entire pov, I doubt you would understand why the exit polls you linked don't prove your newly crafted argument. Especially when I already addressed the context in which a Black voter may identify as moderate in a poll, but support policies that their candidate wouldn't even consider. You're using these polls to push a narrative as if the voters are identifying themselves as 'moderate' i.e. centrist, while in your own source, it states that 'Black respondent party affiliation depend on who asks' which I touched on in an earlier comment. I hate using polls as definitive proof of anything, but here's something to answer your question directly, a poll from your same source, 73% of Black adults in favor of an almost radical policy, UBI, not very moderate of them.

I'll leave it at this, you have a glaring blind spot when it comes to the overton window in American political history.
 

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You get called a c00n for pretending that life for black folks was better under segregation.
not what I said at all.

again...deal with what breh was speaking on.

yall get triggered by the word 'conservative' and turn your brain off.

what exactly is your issue with what he said?
 

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youre going off internet talking heads

thats like judging women off of what you read on Lipstick Alley
or black people on WSHH
shut up my nikka, and go with the flow.

Current Black conservatives don’t have to integrate with anyone

That’s the beauty of being free
You're a bytch, on my momma.
 

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I don’t understand the hate for this video. I speak with elders who had the same experience. He speaking of Philadelphia, so that very well may have been his experience during segregation. There were neighborhoods that held his experience and there were neighborhoods that lack a lot, wanted to integrate and were given hell. Conservative of old were different from today. They would be like oil and water today.
It's not the hate for the video as much as it's the hate of fakkit as republican cock suckers like the op and posters like @DEAD7 who loves to suck white dikk.
 
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