Black Americans being more patriotic ... (@Napoleon now caught in a web of lies!) - post 653

[kp404]

Who said I forgot?

Stop reading @kp404's trash ass propaganda and show me where I said anything he insinuates I said.

He's a "Phd" in sociology whose entire job is to overreact to any thing that doesn't fit into his world view and drown out any dissent with attempts to filibuster with irrelevant commentary and references. And when he get what he wants, he casts it aside and feigns acknowledgement to his aforementioned demands.

Its intellectually chicanery.

Not once has he directly addressed anything I said.

I'm not in sociology, but I'll let you mistake that like you do everything else. Everythingg I've said has totally killed every part of your "argument."

You lost :smugmalone:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

^^^^^^

What year was that

What does this do to address the cultivation of an attitude of ownership and birthright to the USA?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not in sociology, but I'll let you mistake that like you do everything else. Everythingg I've said has totally killed every part of your "argument."

You lost :smugmalone:

Its either sociology or english or some sort of interdisciplinary ambiguous field.

You've stated as much.

 

[OatmealCreamPie]

Why is your answer to:

Hey, black people...lets create our own concept of nation-hood and drown out attempts to think that we're visitors but rather rightful ownership of the bounty and resources of this land.

and yet you reply with:

they used to hang us up! whites hate us and stand in our way! look how awful they treat us! Look at this! Look at that!

Dude is COMPLETELY talking past me.

Meanwhile, every immigrant group under the sun is coming here and bring their families here to take advantage of the progress that our ancestors fought for while Black Americans say "this aint mine!" Dumbasses!

 

[kp404]

And to this second you have no demonstrated why talking about steering this nation and blacks developing a sense of entitlement is a bad thing or misses your pornographic obsession with oppression.

:mcmahon:Yea you have to be a cac at heart; no way you can make a claim for blacks and not look at oppression as a central part of liberation. Who are you trying to kid, dude? The shyt you are saying makes NO SENSE.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Meanwhile, every immigrant group under the sun is coming here and bring their families here to take advantage of the progress that our ancestors fought for while Black Americans say "this aint mine!" Dumbasses!

Don't worry. @Poitier will keep bragging about wanting to leave and @kp404 will try to shame you into his dissertation trying to impress you with sources from 100 years ago talking about black issues instead of the present day cultivation of an attitude towards nationhood and citizenship.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

:mcmahon:Yea you have to be a cac at heart; no way you can make a claim for blacks and not look at oppression as a central part of liberation. Who are you trying to kid, dude? The shyt you are saying makes NO SENSE.

When did I ever say this?

I've asked you dozens of times to highlight this...and to your fault, you've failed at establishing such a claim.

 

[kp404]

Its either sociology or english or some sort of interdisciplinary ambiguous field.

You've stated as much.

Wrong again:jayhaha:English?:babyhaha:Oh you said that because I know what an "anecdote" is and you don't?

nikka you know what my doctorate is in so stop trying to act; those high school science textbooks didn't prepare you for a real debate on socioeconomic experiences huh? U are clearly outmatched here, just go back to anti-religion rants :timetomurder:And you suck at those too

 

[kp404]

When did I ever say this?

I've asked you dozens of times to highlight this...and to your fault, you've failed at establishing such a claim.

You just said I have a pornographic obsession with oppression, correct? This thread is about blacks overturning oppression, correct? So you call me out because I highlight the essential element of the socioeconomic experience of blacks here? :babyhaha:Man I've debated high schools students more informed than you; you just don't have the knowledge for this type of discussion, kid;

 

[Poitier]

Thanks for that article, but it says that the numbers returning are difficult to quantify. There are large communities of African immigrants in the US so if it were so bad here then we should have warned them not to come.

So you are a smart, dumb hoe

Meanwhile, every immigrant group under the sun is coming here and bring their families here to take advantage of the progress that our ancestors fought for while Black Americans say "this aint mine!" Dumbasses!

You might want to learn how the world works in 2014.

 

[OatmealCreamPie]

The point we are trying to make is that black America (the masses, not the small elite class), have consistently practiced self-determination, or created their own space and acted actively as agents of change in the country. Yes America was founded on and still practices racial and capitalist oppression, but blacks have maintained collective activism and communal relationships that benefit one another since we got here in the 1600s...Let's do some history real quick:be

As soon as the 1700s came, blacks began embracing patriotism and have always placed nationalism at their center, but all we have gotten in return is more racial and capitalist oppression. Let's not forget that black Americans wanted to be apart of this nation, especially after the promises of the American Revolution started the first major push for abolition...we fought hard to be Afro-American, but the country was FOUNDED in racism, so therefore, it cannot be anti-racist until the foundation changes. We learned the hard way. Therefore, you had Du Bois and CLR James pave the way for black socialist groups in the country. In 2014, nothing has changed as blacks in the nation still embrace nationalism to a fault in some cases; but can you blame them with the level of propaganda that is pumped into the air on a daily? We have to change that propaganda and I think it is changing with movies like Hidden Colors becoming more and more popular.

We have always practiced collective activism against oppression; OP is wrong; blacks have been ACTIVE AGENTS OF CHANGE and have succeeded on the major front: our strength and communities remain strong...we have a shytload of work to do in counterhegemony, but I'm optimistic that the black masses, who have always been hard workers who value each other, will continue to collectivize with the help of black intellectuals publishing new revolutionary ideas in regards to 2 things: Education, and Social Movements. That's how oppression will be overturned. If education and social movements happen en masse all over the nation, it will remove the bricks of oppression...easily. That's our duty and its a long process we started back in the 1600s. Failure is not an option.

i don't give a damn if white people don't think I have a right to this country, I KNOW I have a right to a seat at the table to get my share and that's all that matters.

 

[kp404]

Don't worry. @Poitier will keep bragging about wanting to leave and @kp404 will try to shame you into his dissertation trying to impress you with sources from 100 years ago talking about black issues instead of the present day cultivation of an attitude towards nationhood and citizenship.

shyt you haven't read which is why your argument is illogical :smugmalone:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not in sociology, but I'll let you mistake that like you do everything else. Everythingg I've said has totally killed every part of your "argument."

You lost :smugmalone:

Wrong again:jayhaha:English?:babyhaha:Oh you said that because I know what an "anecdote" is and you don't?

nikka you know what my doctorate is in so stop trying to act; those high school science textbooks didn't prepare you for a real debate on socioeconomic experiences huh? U are clearly outmatched here, just go back to anti-religion rants :timetomurder:And you suck at those too

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8592542/

Black local polity in relationship to the black masses (working class); paying particular attention to black urban regimes in post 1970 Southern cities; its an interdiciplinary perspective wrapping historical narrative in sociology, psychology, political science, and community studies theories; looking at the transformations and resistance strategies of the black masses to racial and capitalist oppression as de-proletarianization, states rights, neoliberalism, and Counter-Keynesian Economics sweeps through the urban sectors of the U.S. at the end of the Black Freedom Movement and how it affects the socioeconomic spaces for the black masses today. I will be giving the black masses their proper voice and identity in the resistance to oppression, something that is completely absent in all social science literature outside of specks her e and there from Du Bois, Sterling Stuckey, John Blassingame, Aldon Morris, Robin D. G. Kelley, etc.

 

[kp404]

i don't give a damn if white people don't think I have a right to this country, I KNOW I have a right to a seat at the table to get my share and that's all that matters.

Did you actually read my whole post? :holyfieldhuh:That's EXACTLY what I said we have done. Its called self-determination.

 

[kp404]

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8592542/

But atleast you know what my degree is in now: History since you can't read..glad you know how to use your search feature...too bad you don't know what any of that stuff is or means...go read up, kid:strahanhaha: