Bill Simmons on 2012 team vs. the Dream Team

[prophecypro]

come on breh

tayshaun, redd, boozer, and a 35 year old jason kidd who was getting clowned on by rubio

But that was the squad people at the time said was the most complete team since the 92 squad. We're still talking Wade, Melo, Lebron, Kobe, Dwight, Bosh, CP3 and Deron.
I would give them the push just off Howard and Bosh for size

 

[Whitty Hutton]

The following isn't conjecture or opinion or anything subjective:

Tyson Chandler and/or LeBron James would lock Russell and Wilt up. Those legends never seen defenders in the same league as those guys. It was almost a completely different sport back then.

In Barbados we have something called NetBall. Google it. That's what Russell and Wilt were playing with those short white dudes.

Just stop.
Lebron is locking up Wilt
Stop it.

WHY DIDN'T THEY LOCK UP PAU & MARC GASOL???

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

WHY DIDN'T THEY LOCK UP PAU & MARC GASOL???

They're not trying to hear about the mismatches in the paint breh.

 

[NYC Rebel]

They're not trying to hear about the mismatches in the paint breh.

That's a given.

 

[Ready2Rhyme]

Just stop.
Lebron is locking up Wilt
Stop it.

WHY DIDN'T THEY LOCK UP PAU & MARC GASOL???

Pau and Marc Gasol as presently constituted would dominate the 1969 NBA.

They say George Mikan was dominant? You haven't seen nothing.

 

[Pack2]

this is still going on?


@ Reb going to the 92 boxscores to try to build an argument bc Kucoc, Petro, and company shot a good percentage in a 30 pt blowout

 

[OG Talk]

The 2008 squad gets slept on all of sudden in these debates.

The only reason 2012 is even brought up for this debate is the nostalgia of it being the 20th year anniversary....

That's why I'm trippin off why people are chosing this incomplete model of team to build their argument around...


Kobe and the media won...

 

[NYC Rebel]

this is still going on?


@ Reb going to the 92 boxscores to try to build an argument bc Kucoc, Petro, and company shot a good percentage in a 30 pt blowout

I don't get the laughing. did you deconstruct my point?

The game ENDED in a 30 point blowout. the first ended with the dream team up by one. The second up by 14. And the "Big three" of Croatia shot well. My point is, all of the "Durant and them wouldn't shoot as well" advocates forgot that Scottie and Michael didn't even stop those dudes from shooting well.

 

[Pack2]

I don't get the laughing. did you deconstruct my point?

The game ENDED in a 30 point blowout. the first ended with the dream team up by one. The second up by 14. And the "Big three" of Croatia shot well. My point is, all of the "Durant and them wouldn't shoot as well" advocates forgot that Scottie and Michael didn't even stop those dudes from shooting well.

You posting up stats from a blow out....first half was "close" and was a 14 point game but you are still using full blowout game stats, unless those numbers you posted were "at the half" then I digress....

Did you see Lithuania's roster? Loaded with NBA talent huh?

 

[NYC Rebel]

You posting up stats from a blow out....first half was "close" and was a 14 point game but you are still using full blowout game stats, unless those numbers you posted were "at the half" then I digress....

Did you see Lithuania's roster? Loaded with NBA talent huh?

I'm posting stats of players and what they did.

The laughing is corny. You're completely avoiding my point.

I named names and players. Toni, Dino and Petro shot 23 out of 40 with Jordan and Pippen on the floor.

What do YOU think Melo, Durant and Lebron would do based on that?

Less or better?

Try answering that.

Cats love to laugh around stuff cherry picking, but really don't like getting to the core of one's point.

 

[Pack2]

I'm posting stats of players and what they did.

The laughing is corny. You're completely avoiding my point.

I named names and players. Toni, Dino and Petro shot 23 out of 40 with Jordan and Pippen on the floor.

What do YOU think Melo, Durant and Lebron would do based on that?

Less or better?

Try answering that.

Cats love to laugh around stuff cherry picking, but really don't like getting to the core of one's point.

23 - 40 with Jordan and Pippen "on the floor"

So at the half, those guys were a combined 23-40? Or did you rewatch the games to see that "with Jordan and Pippen on the floor", they shot 23-40?

Please clarify

 

[NYC Rebel]

23 - 40 with Jordan and Pippen "on the floor"

So at the half, those guys were a combined 23-40? Or did you rewatch the games to see that "with Jordan and Pippen on the floor", they shot 23-40?

Please clarify

You're not answering the question.

They shot 23 - 40 against the Jordan and Pippen combo.

What do YOU think Melo, Durant and Lebron would do based on that?

Less or better?

Try answering that.

 

[Pack2]

You're not answering the question.

They shot 23 - 40 against the Jordan and Pippen combo.

What do YOU think Melo, Durant and Lebron would do based on that?

Less or better?

Try answering that.

No, you're not answering.....is that 23-40 AGAINST Jordan and Pippen, with them on the floor? Or is it 23-40 in a 32pt blowout game?

It's silly to cherry pick one game where a team shot a good percentage against the 92 team just like it's silly to pick one game where the 12 team didnt shoot well...it works both ways

 

[NYC Rebel]

No, you're not answering.....is that 23-40 AGAINST Jordan and Pippen, with them on the floor? Or is it 23-40 in a 32pt blowout game?

What do you mean I'm not answering?

I initiated this conversation.

I first asked YOU a question...you responded with a question.

The god like 1992 saw those three shot 23 - 40.

What would Melo, Durant, and Lebron do to them?

It's pretty simple. You want to muck it up.

 

[Lakers Offseason]

This shyt is still going on? This debate ended when the Gasols shytted on 2012's interior defense. The fukking Gasols.

It's a bad matchup for the 2012 squad. It ain't about being nostalgic and shyt.