Bill Laimbeer says "LeBron is the GOAT" (First Take)

[Shadow King]

"Of his finals losses outside of 2011, when should have his teams won?" Is what you asked and I answered you


Yes LeBron lead his team to a chip in 16 (thanks to Kyrie)

LeBron is top 10 but he's not better than Mike at the end of the day and he won't be

Mike, Laimbeer, and LeBron knows this

I'm talking about the finals though. Where it matters the most. LeBron got outplayed by Wade the whole series. Not just 8 point game 4 from LeBron where they lost

When you're self proclaimed to be the best player in the world all those years then your team should win every year. Mike did it

All those years LeBron was in Miami he was definitely supposed to win chips all 4 years he was there. Did you forget?

No you did not answer him

Edit: Well you did say "every year like Jordan" I didn't know Jordan had 15 rings

 

[I AM WE ARE]

I loved this rivalry growing up


Don't have a dog in this fight but shytting on bron to hype Mike is trash

 

[Hey_zeus]

See how the goalpost shifts whenever somebody give LeBron his props. It is truly amazing to see here in the coliseum

Live juelz'n

 

[Greenhornet]

Lebron isnt the best at anything or any category
Super sick of arguing when the man's reality is proof
sick of the goalposts being moved regarding other players too

 

[ISO]

Three-point shooting
Early on, passing. He pass when he wanted to, but if you let him beat you, you can beat his teams before Phil Jackson
Constantly attack him 1v1 with an excellent scorer and put a great defender to wear him down. It not extremely effective but MJ is not a pass-first player.
He forces him to shoot in zones where he's not so comfortable with the zone defense. Obviously, this is extremely hard to do in the 80's since the NBA banned all of the effective defenses in that era but in the modern NBA, you can clearly scheme him.
He carries all of the time and is always palming the ball with his dribbling.
Off the ball on offense wasn't his strength especially outside of the triangle.
Force him to play man defense. I know it's impossible if you don't have three scoring options on the perimeter but when they did have that in the 80's, MJ had to defend. You want to force him to defend, he didn't live close to the healthiest lifestyle at that time.

MJ benefitted heavily from his era. That zone rule was huge. I’m not saying he wouldn’t be dominant with zones but not to the extent he was then and it would make a difference in the playoffs.

This man simply abused this white boy to a 61 point outing because he was able to pretty much go at him one-on-one or he’d get screened too easily giving Mike wide open 15 foot jumpers...

I mean look at this shyt

Imagine KD, LeBron, Melo, Kobe, Wade being defended like this

 

[I AM WE ARE]

This is a generational argument that will never end.

Bill got more trophies
Wilt was the goat athlete
Jordan was a different type of mentality/ player all together
Lebron a freak of nature in his own right
Does Jordan win 3 or more with wade and Bosh?
Does lebron lead bulls beat the magic?
Hell if we put Jordan at these times it's a cheat code, look at what harden doing.

 

[Damnshow]

Its his opinion, freedom of speech. Some legends probably think Wilt is the greatest, or Kareem.

 

[HabitualChiller]

KG beat Lebron multiple times in the playoffs and he still shyts on him to this day

The Celtics went 2-2, though.

They won in '08 & '09, but lost in 2011 and 2012. I can see why he dislikes LeBron.

 

[Blurneed]

I dont even know where to start....just from a visual perspective..aesthetically..Lebron is nowhere near MJ...like......MJ was out here killin nikkas from midrange, (post)fadeaways, up and unders,acrobatic layups, clutch jumpshots, random catch n shoot makes standing or off the curl, supreme footwork and control, while shooting 50% or better and on the other end locking up defensively, clutch steals and blocks.....and be doing all of that shyt in the same game....basically his whole prime career really....only nikka to do that on a lesser scale from a highlight perspective was Wade...

MJ ain't have to create superteams or constantly create teams to fit his playstyle. His time came when it came. N still got more rings than Bron. "Bad Boy" Pistons clearly still mad as fukk. Last I checked They the ones who walked off the court n gave no daps like pussies cause they lost, not the Bulls. John Salley, Isiah Thomas, Bill Laimbeer stay on that "MJ not the greatest" Bullshyt, no pun intended.
Lame ass nikkas.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

A running joke is LeBron needing more help

Jordan literally ran to the commissioner and cried about the Pistons

Imagine if Bron did that


I’m of the belief that Jordan is the GOAT by far but nikkas is not keeping it a buck about this situation either because of bias or they don’t know shyt about the game

They walked off the court because Jordan pulled a perceived bytch move .


If a nikka did something like that to me i’d think of him as less of a man and take shots at him too. Y’all act like he dissin y’all fathers.

 

[Shutdown10]

A running joke is LeBron needing more help

Jordan literally ran to the commissioner and cried about the Pistons

Imagine if Bron did that


I’m of the belief that Jordan is the GOAT by far but nikkas is not keeping it a buck about this situation either because of bias or they don’t know shyt about the game

They walked off the court because Jordan pulled a perceived bytch move .


If a nikka did something like that to me i’d think of him as less of a man and take shots at him too. Y’all act like he dissin y’all fathers.

What did Bron do when Draymond called him a bytch in those 2016 finals? He addressed it publicly hoping that the league office would take action in which they did, and it affected the series in his favor. MJ was downright getting assaulted out there on the floor. Those Jordan rules were not defensive basketball plays. Their strategy was to literally beat on Mike and his teammates, and the league allowed them to do it at the time. Jordan has never taken shortcuts, so your comments make no sense. Lamibeer is entitled to his opinion, but no one is taking him serious because of the history there and how he became a sore bitter loser once Mike and the Bulls beat them.

 

[NYC Rebel]

What did Bron do when Draymond called him a bytch in those 2016 finals? He addressed it publicly hoping that the league office would take action in which they did, and it affected the series in his favor. MJ was downright getting assaulted out there on the floor. Those Jordan rules were not defensive basketball plays. Their strategy was to literally beat on Mike and his teammates, and the league allowed them to do it at the time. Jordan has never taken shortcuts, so your comments make no sense. Lamibeer is entitled to his opinion, but no one is taking him serious because of the history there and how he became a sore bitter loser once Mike and the Bulls beat them.

MJ himself said "sure I told the teacher."

Stop dressing it up as something else.

 

[Somebody]

im a bron stan, and I would never use this as a source to prop up bron. but then again, I'm not gon lie. that's why we love sports. the browns is trash and them not winning keeps ppl from changing the narrative.

Jordan is the goat. I don't like it, but it's true. why couldn't my generation have the goat? idk. but im not gon sit here and lie to make myself feel better.

 

[Shutdown10]

MJ himself said "sure I told the teacher."

Stop dressing it up as something else.

Doesn't make Jordan less of man in my eyes. The tactics the Pistons were using on Mike and the Bulls were not basketball.

 

[Jplaya2023]

"Of his finals losses outside of 2011, when should have his teams won?" Is what you asked and I answered you


Yes LeBron lead his team to a chip in 16 (thanks to Kyrie)

LeBron is top 10 but he's not better than Mike at the end of the day and he won't be

Mike, Laimbeer, and LeBron knows this

to me lebron is 3-3 in the finals. I give him a pass for 2007, 2015 and 2018.

the other 6 i felt like his team(S) could've won those series

we know what happened in 2011.

In 2014 the heat could've been up 2-0 winning both games on the road, but lebron caught cramps at the end of game 1 and after game 2 his play was inconsistent for the rest of the series

2017 the series could've ended up being 2-2. The cavs were up late and lebron hit korver who missed (which is fine) but on the ensuring possession lebron let KD run into a pull up 3 instead of pressing up and making him make a play at the rim and that essentially ended the series. the cavs were up double digits in game 5 and in a slew of 4 minutes the warriors were in the lead.