Bill Cosby is done

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'd rather just wait for all the facts to come out before I draw a conclusion.

its looking like he did it man.

 

[sun raw]

if this turns out another jimmy savile situation (except without the pedophilia)

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Poor Camille.

 

[The G.O.D II]

This shyt is ALL bad.

ALL

fukkING

BAD

They got dude on camera trying to suppress footage

Whether or not the allegations are true, hes there with his wife to discuss his art project and not allegations. He respectfully told the interviewer no comment. And later, in what was apparently post interview, off the record dialogue, asked that the portion not air.

 

[mrken12]

its looking like he did it man.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

This shyt is ALL bad.

ALL

fukkING

BAD

They got dude on camera trying to suppress footage

How is that bad, breh?

He said he didn't want to talk about it and he said that when he answered that question, he considered it to be off-record.

You say "it's all bad", but could it just be that the man doesn't even want to waste his time publicly acknowledging or responding to allegations that were never reported to police, to a hospital, and he was never even arrested for, let alone convicted for?

There's some things that people say that you don't even waste your time responding to it.

As a man, I've been in that position.

People always try to tear the next man down... and some of the stuff is so ludicrous that it's like, why waste my time even talking about it?

 

[mrken12]

Whether or not the allegations are true, hes there with his wife to discuss his art project and not allegations. He respectfully told the interviewer no comment. And later, in what was apparently post interview, off the record dialogue, asked that the portion not air.

And it annoys me that they're trying to pin this whole slander campaign on Hannibal Buress. The media have been waiting to rip Cosby apart. They just want to use a black person as the catalyst for a cover.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Whether or not the allegations are true, hes there with his wife to discuss his art project and not allegations. He respectfully told the interviewer no comment. And later, in what was apparently post interview, off the record dialogue, asked that the portion not air.

these nikkas want so bad for Cosby to be guilty....

He told them to pull up their pants, stop cussing around their mothers, get a job and quit hanging out on the block all day....



"bu bu bu he don't know the struggle of black folks.... he's detached... bu bu bu he said it in front of white people"

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Bomani Jones taking a trip on that c00n train?

Spoiler

http://www.playboy.com/articles/bill-cosby-legacy

It’s been a slow death for the legend of Bill Cosby. As allegations of sexual assault — decades-old claims that are now being treated with appropriate gravity — envelop the 77-year-old Cosby, it’s easy to forget it’s been nearly 20 years since the Autumn Jackson trial showed us that America’s Dad might have been a lot more like a deadbeat than you realized. That was before social media, so her attempt to extort money from Cosby so she wouldn't tell the world about his affair with her mother (and her claim that he was her father) vanished from mainstream memory.

Anyone who pretends to be incapable of believing he could do anything wrong is lying. Even if he wasn’t Jackson’s father, Cosby must've noticed the smoke from the fire that had been set to his pristine image. But the only person striking a match in public was a woman who seemed unhinged, and that was enough for many to ignore something few wished to consider: the possibility that Bill Cosby was a fraud.

It’s a lot harder to ignore 15 women, though, even if we don’t know very much about whether or not Cosby is a sexual predator. Sexual assault is a crime that few women claim falsely, but few isn’t none, and a certain presumption of innocence is responsible, even if it isn’t required. But the breadth and sheer volume of these allegations make it difficult to afford Cosby the benefit of the doubt for any reason other than obligation. Some of those women may be lying, but the likelihood that they all – 15 women and counting – are is asymptotically approaching zero. That small chance is enough to keep him out of jail, but not enough for reasonable people to dismiss.

But how in the world did it get to this point? Still in the shadow of a time when simply looking at a white woman could get a black man killed, Bill Cosby may have gotten away with raping dozens of them. Cosby has been worth a lot of money to a lot of people, but that doesn’t explain how he could get away with so much for so long. The Cosby Show was a success, but everything he touched on primetime television between that and I Spy failed. His films in the '70s, aside from those he did with Sidney Poitier, were unsuccessful. If the allegations about Cosby are true, he was able to get away with these crimes long before it would be too costly to expose and stop him.

Cosby wouldn’t be able to get away with these crimes simply because he was valuable. He could only do so because America sees women as being the exact opposite. Anonymous people, for a range of reasons, get away with rape every day. They, like Cosby is alleged to have done, treat woman as if they were disposable before and after sex, and like they were merely props for the act itself. Apparently, they can see why Cosby was enamored by “Spanish fly” for decades.

Why else would anyone defend a man who, as appearances are being cancelled and his comedy special is being pulled by Netflix, won’t defend himself? How else could Don Lemon, ostensibly a journalist, find it appropriate to ask one of Cosby’s alleged victims why she didn’t bite his dikk off, as if that would end an encounter during which she was drugged?

That extreme benefit of the doubt isn’t simply reserved for television stars or athletes, so it’s dangerous to evaluate reactions to Cosby simply in the context of fame. It’s probably soothing, as it’s easier to consider capitalism protected Cosby rather than apathy. They look out for their bottom line, but it’s more likely that we just don’t give a fukk. You think the people close to Joan Tarshis were getting rich off Bill Cosby? If not, why wouldn’t she tell them for 20 years?

The balance sheet is not entirely to blame, and the current national outrage that was hard to find in 2004 is worth parsing. The society that was complicit in letting predators exist in comfort for so long decided now, after a Hannibal Buress routine that wasn't even on television, was the time to force Cosby to answer for these allegations.

This didn't happen as any project he worked on debuted, and it didn't happen as he questioned the moral fiber of poor African-Americans. It would be foolish to attack those who finally got around to asking the right questions, but one must wonder what took so long.

Maybe, as more women tell their stories of sexual assault, we’re less apathetic on matters of sexual assault than we once were. The crime is heinous, but social media has shown us it isn’t distant. There are more victims than most of us realize, and lots of us are unwittingly friends with those who have violated them. To look past that in 2014 is to be willfully ignorant, just as it would be to assume anyone could never do such a thing. Lots of people do, and there is no “type.” Mike Tyson and Bill Cosby have been accused of the same crime, and neither looks more like a rapist than the other.

That reality’s hard to grasp in a country where we try to put a face to every crime. Knowing the folly of that makes it impossible to look at Bill Cosby as many used to. He was America’s introduction to black leading men on television, with his role on I Spy being the first for an African-American in a TV drama. He was hilarious and charming, better than any comedian has been at sounding like your friend, uncle or dad. He was also clean-shaven, non-threatening and focused most on what made him like mainstream audiences, in spite of one obvious, intractable difference.

In a way, he was O.J. Simpson before O.J. Simpson. They trafficked in the same rarefied air, "postracial" before that lie became vogue. They also appear to have spent years mistreating women while their fans and backers acted none the wiser. They were the guys America implored millions of men to model themselves after, only we later learned they're the guys your mothers warned you about.

Many will forever remember him as Cliff Huxtable, but none of us will ever say we forgot about these allegations. They'll be with him until he can explain why they shouldn't be, something he probably can't do. The only real question left is whether being an alleged serial rapist is enough to make America hate a man it once loved. Sadly, the answer to that is unclear.

Cliff Huxtable made it seem that loving his beautiful, elegant wife at the end of an episode was the real payoff for working hard, raising kids and getting rich. Bill Cosby seems to think he deserved more. Maybe because he was a star. Maybe because he was a man.

Or maybe because he knew he could get away with it, something that has as much to do with us as it does with him.

 

[Forlife44]

2014 = the year of allegations. people are losing shows, endorsements, being suspended from teams, losing game checks over ALLEGATIONS. I might as well accuse somebody i dont like of doing something and watch the witch hunt commence. Oh and they all have been black men

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

2014 = the year of allegations. people are losing shows, endorsements, being suspended from teams, losing game checks over ALLEGATIONS. I might as well accuse somebody i dont like of doing something and watch the witch hunt commence

wait till they get some ex gf of Pres Obama to try to say he did something "inappropriate"

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Were there rumors about Cosby and rape throughout the years ala R.Kelly/young girls or Mr Cee and Trannies?

Ummmmmmmm right here.

http://gawker.com/who-wants-to-remember-bill-cosbys-multiple-sex-assaul-1515923178

The thing about Dylan Farrow's open letter accusing her father, Woody Allen, of sexual abuse is: There was not much really new about it. It was new that Dylan Farrow herself was signing her name to the accusations, but Vanity Fair had covered the case, in grim detail, more than two decades ago.


Dylan Farrow Details Sexual Abuse By Woody Allen
Dylan Farrow has published an account of the sexual assault she experienced at the hands of her…Read more

So the current crisis over how people are supposed to feel about Woody Allen is on some level odd. Woody Allen's status as an accused child molester has been a matter of public record since before Manhattan Murder Mystery came out. Anyone who didn't think about it before now had chosen not to think about it.

Not thinking about it is a popular and powerful choice. Which brings up another beloved American funnyman, Bill Cosby. Who doesn't love Bill Cosby? I grew up watching Fat Albertand eating Jell-O Pudding Pops, which is a cliché, but Bill Cosby is the creator of some of our most warming and affirming clichés. He is charming and iconic, one of the most culturally important and successful comedians ever, an elder statesman of the entertainment industry.

He's also someone who has been accused by multiple women of drugging them and sexually assaulting them. Here is one of his accusers, describing an incident:

Well, there were a number of people at the table, friends of his, and he said to me, yes, you do seem ill, you're slightly feverish, would you like to have some Contact? You know, the cold medicine. And I thought, why not, can't hurt. So he went into some sort of office area at the back of the restaurant and he produced two capsules in his hand. I thought nothing of it and I took the capsules. In about, I don't know, 20 to 30 minutes I felt great and then about 10 minutes after that I was almost literally face down on the table of this restaurant...

He said, "Oh my, you must be more ill then we believed. I totally lost motor control; I was almost unable to hold my head up. I was very, very, very stoned. He took me into my apartment and then very helpfully and nicely was prepared to take off my clothes and help me into bed and pet me, and that's how the actual assault began.

She recounted this in an on-camera interview, under her own name, with Matt Lauer of theToday show, on February 10, 2005. The assault had allegedly happened back in the 1970s, but she said she had decided to come forward because another woman had accused Cosby of committing a similar assault in January of 2004.

That woman, in a lawsuit, said that Cosby offered her three pills of what he claimed was "herbal medication, which would help her relax," and insisted she take all three:

When Plaintiff advised Defendant she did not feel well, Defendant led Plaintiff to a sofa, because she could not walk on her own, where he laid her down, under the guise of "helping" her.

Subsequently, Defendant positioned himself behind Plaintiff on the sofa, touched her breasts and vaginal area, rubbed his penis against her hand, and digitally penetrated her.

Plaintiff remained in a semi-conscious state throughout the time of this ordeal.

At no time was Plaintiff capable of consent after the pills affected her, and at no time did she consent to Defendant's acts.

Lawyers for the woman filed a motion stating that they intended to call as witnesses the woman who'd given the Today show interview and nine separate Jane Does, from seven different states. Eventually the list grew to a reported 13 accusers. Two more of them put their names on the record, giving interviews to Philadelphia Magazine and later to People. Philadelphiasummarized one of their stories:

They started an affair that lasted about six months. Cosby ended it without explanation. Then he called her one night in Denver, where she lived; they met backstage at a nightclub there, where he was performing. He said, "Here's your favorite coffee, something I made, to relax you." She drank it and soon began to feel woozy. Several hours later, she woke up in the backseat of her car, alone. She didn't know what had happened. Her clothes were a mess, her bra undone. Security guards came and said Cosby told them to get her home. She confronted him at his hotel. "You just had too much to drink," he told her.

The other accuser initially withheld the details of her story because of the pending lawsuit. Cosby ended up settling the suit, with the plaintiff agreeing not to discuss it further, after which the prospective witness went ahead and told her story to the magazines. Here's People's account, using her name, Barbara Bowman:

It was in a hotel in Reno, claims Bowman, that Cosby assaulted her one night in 1986. "He took my hand and his hand over it, and he masturbated with his hand over my hand," says Bowman, who, although terrified, kept quiet about the incident and continued as Cosby's protégé because, she says, "Who's gonna believe this? He was a powerful man. He was like the president." Before long she was alone with Cosby again in his Manhattan townhouse; she was given a glass of red wine, and "the next thing I know, I'm sick and I'm nauseous and I'm delusional and I'm limp and ... I can't think straight.... And I just came to, and I'm wearing a [men's] T-shirt that wasn't mine, and he was in a white robe."

A month or two later, she was in Atlantic City and says she was given another glass of red wine and felt "completely doped up again." Confused, Bowman somehow made it back to her room, but the next day Cosby summoned her to his suite. After she arrived, Bowman says, Cosby "threw me on the bed and braced his arm under my neck so I couldn't move my head, and he started trying to take his clothes off. I remember all the clinking of his belt buckle. And he was trying to take my pants down, and I was trying to keep them on." Bowman says that not long after she resisted the assault, Cosby cut off contact with her and had her escorted to the airport for a flight back to Denver.

To reiterate: This was in People magazine, published nationwide in December 2006. Four women said publicly, in major media outlets, that Bill Cosby had drugged and sexually assaulted them. This coverage was more recent and possibly more prominent that the coverage of the abuse allegations against Woody Allen.

And? Basically nobody wanted to live in a world where Bill Cosby was a sexual predator. It was too much to handle. The original Philadelphia Magazine story set off his accusers' testimony in italicized interludes, between long sections about the more digestible controversies around Cosby's lecture tour denouncing black cultural pathology. The usually unflinching Ta-Nehisi Coates, in an otherwise comprehensive 2008 Atlantic essay on the context and politics of Cosby's performance as a public moral scold, dropped a sentence about the lawsuit settlement and its accompanying accusations into parentheses near the end.

Conceptually, it was the sensible way to deal with it. No one was talking about it anymore. The whole thing had been, and it remained, something walled off from our collective understanding of Bill Cosby.

With shocking speed, it was effectively forgotten. When the subject came up today, more than half the Gawker staff had no memory of any sexual allegations against Bill Cosby. In 2009, Cosby was awarded the Mark Twain Prize for his distinguished achievements in humor. In 2010, he was honored with the Marian Anderson Award, for "critically acclaimed artists who have impacted society in a positive way, either through their work or their support for an important cause." In 2011, the Marian Anderson Award went to Mia Farrow.

 

[loyola llothta]

2014 = the year of allegations. people are losing shows, endorsements, being suspended from teams, losing game checks over ALLEGATIONS. I might as well accuse somebody i dont like of doing something and watch the witch hunt commence. Oh and they all have been black men

LenaDunham show still poppin....oh wait

 

[The G.O.D II]

And it annoys me that they're trying to pin this whole slander campaign on Hannibal Buress. The media have been waiting to rip Cosby apart. They just want to use a black person as the catalyst for a cover.

I mean Cosby has been an elitist, out of touch old a$$hole whos been saying some dumb shyt over the years, but I am hating the treatment hes getting now. Plus, are any of our heroes safe? Its like for generations all of our leading figures have to have some stigma attached to them. From King to Cosby. Cosby, one of the first black leads in a primetime sitcoms and star of the biggest sitcom ever, one foot in the grave, all of the sudden has 10+ white women simultaneously come out the wood work claiming the same thing. Now, Cosby may have done some inappropiate shyt and cheated on his wife, but I refuse to believe a black man, no matter how famous/rich he is, can get away with raping a bunch of white women. Plus, lets not act like there hasn't been an all out assault on black males this year. From Rice to this whole white feminist movement of portraying us as sexual savages harassing women on streets, there is a strange undercurrent going on. Now they are going hard at Cosby to dispel the Cosbiness is Godliness saying.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I mean Cosby has been an elitist, out of touch old a$$hole whos been saying some dumb shyt over the years, but I am hating the treatment hes getting now. Plus, are any of our heroes safe? Its like for generations all of our leading figures have to have some stigma attached to them. From King to Cosby. Cosby, one of the first black leads in a primetime sitcoms and star of the biggest sitcom ever, one foot in the grave, all of the sudden has 10+ white women simultaneously come out the wood work claiming the same thing. Now, Cosby may have done some inappropiate shyt and cheated on his wife, but I refuse to believe a black man, no matter how famous/rich he is, can get away with raping a bunch of white women. Plus, lets not act like there hasn't been an all out assault on black males this year. From Rice to this whole white feminist movement of portraying us as sexual savages harassing women on streets, there is a strange undercurrent going on. Now they are going hard at Cosby to dispel the Cosbiness is Godliness saying.

cosign everything but the first line