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Surprised no one mentioned Pac. I think he had a perfect balance as well. He could make gutter songs and inspirational songs and party songs just as good if not better than Big.
Biggie Was the Perfect Balance That Can Never be Achieved Again
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Tupac KONY and GOAT
YeLovesBoston
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Piggie was a pop-rapper
did you forget All Eyez on Me?
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Let's be real
Biggie is the most talented rapper to ever get on the mic....and I'm taking Jay & Nas into consideration
As a rapper, it's not just what you say but the delivery...Biggie can make something simple sound incredible bc his delivery was unwordly
I listen to Life After & it's just so timeless
BIG wasn't a punchline rapper...he relied on his flow & delivery
Jay has flow but he doesn't have the delivery of BIG...BIG could slow it down, speed it up, swag on a track, he was just so talented
I do think BIG painted more vivid pictures than Jay...only rapper who could paint picture slike BIG was Nas
Y'all forget that BIG was younger than Jay so I do believe he still had room for improvement
Can we imagine BIG getting production from The Neptunes, Kanye, Just Blaze & Dr. Dre from 97-03
And truth is BIG influenced Jay so much I don't see how Jay could be better...best Jay could do is equal him but not surpass him
Biggie is the most talented rapper to ever get on the mic....and I'm taking Jay & Nas into consideration
As a rapper, it's not just what you say but the delivery...Biggie can make something simple sound incredible bc his delivery was unwordly
I listen to Life After & it's just so timeless
BIG wasn't a punchline rapper...he relied on his flow & delivery
Jay has flow but he doesn't have the delivery of BIG...BIG could slow it down, speed it up, swag on a track, he was just so talented
I do think BIG painted more vivid pictures than Jay...only rapper who could paint picture slike BIG was Nas
Y'all forget that BIG was younger than Jay so I do believe he still had room for improvement
Can we imagine BIG getting production from The Neptunes, Kanye, Just Blaze & Dr. Dre from 97-03
And truth is BIG influenced Jay so much I don't see how Jay could be better...best Jay could do is equal him but not surpass him
From making radio hits like Juicy, Hypnotize, Mo Money Mo Problems, One More Chance (R&B remix), and Get Money to dominate the clubs and charts. Then make street records that can compete with any other rapper (mainstream or underground) on a lyrical level like Last Day, Notorious Thugs, Long Kiss Goodnight, Who Shot Ya etc. On top of that the dude was an amazing storyteller. Ready to Die may be the greatest concept album of all time only rivals by his other album Life After Death. Biggie had everything. Flow, presence, charisma, voice, personality, and lyrical ability. If you ask me, Biggie may have been the perfect rap artist. All this under the age of 25. I can't even imagine what his discography would be like.
Some of yall probably aint gonna read all of this and just throw someat me, but ask your favorite rapper who's the king of NY
Thought that went without saying
,plus Im sick of Biggie stans even comparing biggie to Pac....in every category he matches biggie but flows as crazy and has more flows.better song writer,more substance,can do any type of song,didnt need a Puff,can give you the hard shyt,emotional shyt,political shyt.Might even give it to you all in one song....so if you use the same criteria of Biggie fans that reach to say he has songs with substance,i guess How Do You Want It is a club/emotional/political record
No way Jay is nicer than Biggie. For one. Jay rhyme DNA contains someone much younger than him - Nas. Jay peeped Illmatic and switched his whole style at like 24, 25. He can be more cerebral but he has to. Biggie is like LeBron or something. He had all the natural talent in the world. Talent. Voice. Delivery. Flow. Rhythm. Creativity.
Biggie used poetic and storytelling devices that i've never heard in rap since. Foreboding.
But anyway - Biggie was the most complete because he had a natural balance between the cerebral and the visceral. Same with Pac. It's what makes them untouchable.
Biggie used poetic and storytelling devices that i've never heard in rap since. Foreboding.
But anyway - Biggie was the most complete because he had a natural balance between the cerebral and the visceral. Same with Pac. It's what makes them untouchable.
From making radio hits like Juicy, Hypnotize, Mo Money Mo Problems, One More Chance (R&B remix), and Get Money to dominate the clubs and charts. Then make street records that can compete with any other rapper (mainstream or underground) on a lyrical level like Last Day, Notorious Thugs, Long Kiss Goodnight, Who Shot Ya etc. On top of that the dude was an amazing storyteller. Ready to Die may be the greatest concept album of all time only rivals by his other album Life After Death
Some of yall probably aint gonna read all of this and just throw some
as a Nas stan, I agree to a certain extent.
Jay to me is like a very skilled featherweight boxer but big had that mic presence that would hit you like george foreman punches.
Aside from lack of social commentary, and in terms of having the perfect balance between commercial and street, Big was definitely the most complete MC.
Aside from lack of social commentary, and in terms of having the perfect balance between commercial and street, Big was definitely the most complete MC.
YeLovesBoston
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Thought that went without saying
Might even give it to you all in one song....so if you use the same criteria of Biggie fans that reach to say he has songs with substance,i guess How Do You Want It is a club/emotional/political record
you guys are always to one to bring up Pac whenever Biggie shows up
Yeah Tupac was versatile too. But a lot of his attempts at party records are
. Like lets be honest, you can play Biggie to hear some lyrical shyt and then you could play Biggie to party too.
you guys are always to one to bring up Pac whenever Biggie shows up
Yeah Tupac was versatile too. But a lot of his attempts at party records are
WHy wouldn't we bring up Pac when yall say Biggie was the goat,or Biggie made the greatest double disc ever,or Biggie was the perfect most well rounded emcee? All titles that belong to Pac....Lets not act like its random,and we tried to remain humble by not even mentioning Pacs name the first couple pages of the thread,but yall couldn't get the hint to let it go
And California Love,How Do You Want It,I Get Around are
to you? Well I don't know what to tell you,I feel Hypnotize is corny and Big Poppa is overated outside of the Isleys sample and west coast influence that carry it.Jay was named first and yall downplayed that,so just remember that's why we had to bring in a undisputable name to shut this shyt down
....I'd actually wanted to put Cube in there,but party Cube is cool like party Biggie is cool,but I don't know if I'd say he does that well....as much as I liked We Be Clubbin
Rep. Prolific post. I couldn't have said it better. If God made a perfect MC it was Biggie. I had him as the greatest MC ever up until around 2005 and I could no longer disregard the brilliance of Nas' stretch after Biggie died. Nas the GOAT, Biggie the most talented ever.
