Big Stretch Talks about gentrification in LA. Mad about bloods kickin it with Crips.

[UberEatsDriver]

That's not true for either. In 1990, New York was 28.7% black, which was a population of 2,101,576. In 2017, NY is 21.8% black with a population of 1,879,876. That's a 10.5% decline in its black population in 27 years (1990-2017)...

In '10 NY was 25.5% black with a population of 2,084,659, which was only a 0.8% decline from 20 years prior in 1990. The real problem is NY has lost 9.8% of its black population in just this decade alone, and there are literally dozens of articles around the net for years that have been documenting NY's shrinking black community...

Where I will agree with you is that because there are so many blacks in NY in raw number, and so many different black ethnicities, it can seem not as noticeable. But WSJ, NYT, and a bunch of other media outlets have picked up on it:

(2014)NY Daily News - We are currently unavailable in your region

(2010)As Population Shifts in Harlem, Blacks Lose Their Majority

(2018)Reverse Migration Causing Shrinking Black Population In New York, Philadelphia, Detroit and Chicago

In 1990, LA was 14% black with a population of 487,956. By 2010, the black population shrunk to 9.6% and a population of 364,092, which was a 25.4% decline in the 20-year period 1990-2010. LA has since stabilized though--->in 2017, LA was 8.7% black with 349,345 blacks, which represents just a 4.1% decline since 2010. That's a marked improvement over the drain in the 90s and the 00s. As many horror stories as we hear about blacks leaving LA (and I pointed out up thread I've had family leave LA this decade), fewer blacks are leaving LA as in years prior....

Literally more than double the blacks are leaving NY than LA (9.8% to 4.1% since 2010); essentially NY is entering its phase that LA was in, in the 90s and 00s. I'm not predicting that this is gonna be a 20-year decline for blacks in NY, but it is well-documented that blacks are leaving the city in droves...

This isn't a NY vs LA thing, what I'm trying to bring light on is the hypocrisy and misguided perception that blacks are a)leaving LA faster than other cities, which is a big lie (LA isn't even the worst declining black population in Cali), and b)that blacks have it worse in LA than in other cities...

I'm not a native Angeleno but I sort of feel that way. I spent part of my childhood there and I maintain relationships there and I always find myself defending it in intellectual convos about Black America. LA is criminally underrated, and is still a black mecca, not just because it still has one of the largest black communities, but it continues to represent black platforms on a number of levels...

Blacks are going through it in LA, but not nearly as bad as they are upstate in The Bay, or in literally many other cities across the US. Only a handful of southern cities, mostly in the Carolinas, Texas, Florida (minus Miami, which is decimating its black population), and Nashville are booming in black population. And there are a handful of non-southern cities (Vegas, Indy, Columbus) that are attracting blacks, but in the vast majority of large cities, black populations are declining as gentrification has taken place everywhere and pushed blacks either into the suburbs or forced us to completely relocate to different states and regions...

Your first paragraph shows me a a 6.9 decrease not 10.5%. You seem like you good at statistics so explain the figure for me.

Also I don’t think none of the major cities are going to empty out their black communities because middle class black communities don’t really face crazy issues.

The middle class areas in LA are still overwhelmingly black from what I see people posting on here.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

For those unfamiliar with LA, pay attention because this is basically where the core of black LA resident live. Black people still live in various other parts of the city, but they're just scattered in lesser number. FYI, what constitutes Los Angeles County, is close to 11 million people.


Certain areas of LA or more exposed industrial / hazardous waste than others. Take a guess where most of the people tend to be affected. There's also inequitable distribution of resources such as parks, supermarkets, gyms, jobs and transportation

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Same trend with parks. Remember where most black people in LA live.

Households living above the poverty line. Keep in mind, not everyone living in these areas are poor. A lot of the blobs are oversimplified, representations.


It's kind of outdated, but not really. Once they open the stadium, I imagine by 2030, this area will look uniquely different. Like I've mentioned before, there's a trend of pushing people out the city who don't make at least 70K a year.

This is why I keep bringing up education. There's a direct correlation between education, health and wealth. In the past, I've cross referenced tons of data when comparing wealthier neighborhoods to less affluent ones. The most blatant trend I noticed was the correlation between graduate degrees and wealth. It doesn't mean if an individual has a graduate degree that they'll be wealthy or that they'll automatically make a decent living, but rather there's a greater chance that they'll be making above median / very stable income.




I'd love to dive a bit deeper and explain a lot more, I ain't getting paid for this shyt.

Lastly the reason a lot of these trends that persist, are a continuum of a multitude of issues that have never been addressed. It's not one single entity that is causing this disparity. For individuals not familiar unique challenges or history of LA, the root cause of the inequity in black neighborhoods, isn't merely "culture" but rather discrimination and marginalization, with no adequate compensation / reparations for past wrong doings influenced by the local city government.

Here's a short clip that summarizes a lot of what I said above:


@theworldismine13 @hashmander

Speaking about toxic and industrial zones look what I read the other day.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/13/he...e=fbCNN&utm_term=link&r=http://m.facebook.com

Hispanics and blacks create less air pollution than whites, but breathe more of it, study finds

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

yeah, i dont know why nikkas are acting like brehs could just take drug money and buy the hood. I'm sure the top nikkas did have cribs, local business, etc that were taken away. Look at Ralo....bought whole apt complexes in ATL, they took that shyt

it's not as simple as nikkas wanna make it

RALO DUMBASS WAS ON DVD/SOCIAL MEDIA BROADCASTING WHAT HIS DID. THAT IS NOT THE EXAMPLEYOU WANNA USE.

 

[Astroslik]

@10bandz @Serious

Recommend some good black spots brehs

Lounges/restaurants/brunches

 

[Serious]

Speaking about toxic and industrial zones look what I read the other day.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/13/health/air-pollution-race-study-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2019-03-14T14:02:24&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_term=link&r=http://m.facebook.com

Hispanics and blacks create less air pollution than whites, but breathe more of it, study finds

breh that's nothing.

It's deeper than that. The real story is that rich nations create the most air pollution contributing to climate change, meanwhile less affluent nations are the ones most affected by it:

How rich countries "outsource" their CO2 emissions to poorer ones

Big contributors in the world:

Countries affected:

But getting back to the reply, yeah black and hispanic communities in major cities are subject to pollution. We're not in city government like that. Environmental racism is real and still occurs. What I find funny is that the concentration of white families is usually far away from wherever the epicenter of pollution is(not always), which makes pollution in black and brown neighborhoods even more blatant.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Your first paragraph shows me a a 6.9 decrease not 10.5%. You seem like you good at statistics so explain the figure for me.

Also I don’t think none of the major cities are going to empty out their black communities because middle class black communities don’t really face crazy issues.

The middle class areas in LA are still overwhelmingly black from what I see people posting on here.

He's dividing the current population by past population to get 10.5%.

1,879,876/2,101,576 = 0.8945

1 - 0.895 = 0.105

The percentages you were referring to earlier are the percentage of black population relative to the total city population. If every other ethnic group moved out tomorrow and black people were 100% of the population, there would still be a 10% drop in total black population.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

He's dividing the current population by past population to get 10.5%.

1,879,876/2,101,576 = 0.8945

1 - 0.895 = 0.105

The percentages you were referring to earlier are the percentage of black population relative to the total city population. If every other ethnic group moved out tomorrow and black people were 100% of the population, there would still be a 10% drop in total black population.

Got you!

 

[murksiderock]

Your first paragraph shows me a a 6.9 decrease not 10.5%. You seem like you good at statistics so explain the figure for me.

Also I don’t think none of the major cities are going to empty out their black communities because middle class black communities don’t really face crazy issues.

The middle class areas in LA are still overwhelmingly black from what I see people posting on here.

@FruitOfTheVale explained it for me!

You're correct that most cities aren't going to empty out their black communities. LA still has a very strong black middle class, it will never disappear and will always both cultivate and attract blacks. The problem is proportionally, middle-class Black LA is smaller than many other cities, and is a smaller ratio than in other cities so the representation and visibility we need in LA will remain a challenge unless some things drastically change....

But LA's black community is much stronger than given credit for...

And while many cities will maintain a strong black presence, there are a couple San Francisco's out there; SF definitely is the poster child of a major city in the process of vanquishing its black community...

And it also appears I overestimated the cities losing blacks, though most cities gaining blacks aren't "major" cities, they're mid-sized cities attracting blacks from the north (Midwest and Northeast) and both coasts. I'm working on something right now that I want to spin off into another thread...

@Serious I agree with your education point mostly, but there are greater roadblocks in other places to get higher education than in California, which not only has arguably the strongest education infrastrastructure of any state, is probably the most generous, in regards to tuition and acceptance, etc...

 

[Wild self]

It takes a lot more than just hustle to get thru school. A lot of nikkas have NO support system, and they broke, and they family don't know shyt about college. And thats IF they in a situation where they can stay home and go to school and don't have to get out there to hit a lick as soon as they turn 18,

Plus ADOS black men don't have the culture in place that pushes us to get educated. We are pushed to get bytches and have clout, thats it.

So you fukk around be the not only the only nikka in your classes but the only nikka you know trying to go to school. You gotta have crazy focus and basically ATTACK the system to give you what you need or you will drop out eventually.

That sounds depressing. At least the DMV and ATL have educated black people as the norm. Even NY sounds better.

 

[Serious]

@FruitOfTheVale explained it for me!

You're correct that most cities aren't going to empty out their black communities. LA still has a very strong black middle class, it will never disappear and will always both cultivate and attract blacks. The problem is proportionally, middle-class Black LA is smaller than many other cities, and is a smaller ratio than in other cities so the representation and visibility we need in LA will remain a challenge unless some things drastically change....

But LA's black community is much stronger than given credit for...

And while many cities will maintain a strong black presence, there are a couple San Francisco's out there; SF definitely is the poster child of a major city in the process of vanquishing its black community...

And it also appears I overestimated the cities losing blacks, though most cities gaining blacks aren't "major" cities, they're mid-sized cities attracting blacks from the north (Midwest and Northeast) and both coasts. I'm working on something right now that I want to spin off into another thread...

@Serious I agree with your education point mostly, but there are greater roadblocks in other places to get higher education than in California, which not only has arguably the strongest education infrastrastructure of any state, is probably the most generous, in regards to tuition and acceptance, etc...

No doubt, basically its a complex situation, but I prefer to move the conversation away from culture and pseudo indoctrines of black people doing certain things because they're black, or the typical helpless / hopeless black jargon, I regularly come across.

Too often historical past injustices, which were never addressed, are left off the table, in these discussions.

The reality there's a series of issues that affect the outcomes black people in LA, and america in general that contribute to disparities today.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Any new black businesses open in LA county?

 

[Whogivesafuck]

Certain areas of LA or more exposed industrial / hazardous waste than others. Take a guess where most of the people tend to be affected

Yep. Just look at the Ujima village situation.

 

[Serious]

Yep. Just look at the Ujima village situation.

Damn.....

Depressing.
Its happens a lot.
It's scary as well to think of how the residents health was undermined and not taken into consideration.

 

[How Sway?]

This video was only a few years ago. Oh how times have changed

 

[Konnan]

He's calling Crips crabs then in the same breath talk about how bad black hate is

FOH he just as dumb as the folks he taking about