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You still didn't do it properly. Your analogy ignores the key aspect of it all: Russian aggression. All you're doing is distorting historical realities and ignoring the principles of sovereignty. Your post is nothing more than a biased narrative favoring Russian aggression. There is no reality where it's justified. It's not justified as a defensive move, as a response to corruption (this one is especially laughable coming for Kleptocrat Putin), nor as a historical land claim. It's just an attack on a neighbor's independence by a bully who wants nothing but control. Further, your dismissal of international consensus is misleading. Russia's actions have been condemned by the international community through things like UN resolutions and sanctions.
How can you call it "Russian aggression" when there was no violent conflict before the West's intelligence agencies got involved??
If your people are being attacked by forces armed by foreign powers in lands they've lived in since the 1600s, if tens of thousands are killed and a million flee east to Russia, if your ability to conduct trade is destroyed, then breh, these are CLEARLY acts of war and you as Russia have every right to defend yourself. Especially after having spent 8 years exhausting diplomatic solutions with counterparts in the West that proved themselves dishonest after the Minsk Accords.
Are you seriously arguing that the world stands behind Ukraine and the US rather than Russia? The sanctions are imposed by the US and its allies, which the rest of the world ignores.
There was one UN resolution that was voted in an emergency session immediately after the special operation commenced, that "deplored" the Russian invasion, and was for "a just and lasting peace". In my personal view, that was a vote for peaceful settlement by countries and officials without a full understanding of what was going on, with many significant countries in BRICS and global south abstaining to vote. It has been reaffirmed a number of times, but with waning support, and no new resolutions since.
Bro…. Wait a fukking minute your metaphor goes off the rails when you said China overthrows the Mexico’s government. When did the west overthrow Ukraine’s government?
Was an election where the party that wasn’t pro sucking Russia’s dikk this overthrow you are talking about? It’s a key fact in your assessment that you are missing.
Also the Ukraine’s want to fight. America isn’t pushing this on them, cause they have nothing to gain.
Lastly Russia ain’t America. The amount of casualties on their side is staggering.
The Maidan movement was a protest with legitimate grievances against corruption and nepotism in the Yanukovitch government, the so called Russia-friendly president. In reality, he was trying to balance good relations with both the EU and Russia. Notably, this was not a widespread popular movement. Best estimates say Ukraine was evenly divided between leaning toward Russia or the EU. IMO this is significant as ethnic Russians were only 20 % of Ukraine's population. Yanukovitch was democratically elected in free and fair elections according to international monitors.
Anyway, the Maidan movement got opportunistically hijacked by the West's intelligence operations. They armed and bankrolled violent extremists to fight and oust the sitting government. The Jacobian article I've linked has a detailed timeline of the events (and a balanced review of Russia's and West's involvement in Ukraine), and you can find tell-tale signs of a foreign sponsored coup. Mysterious masked armed fighters and sniper fire coming from buildings occupied by protesters. The US through CIA and DIA was repeating strategy and tactics here that have been employed elsewhere like Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, the list is long. Arm and bankroll lunatic extremists - in Ukraine, Neo Nazis, and in the Middle East, islamists - and manipulate them to fight in your interest.
US official Victoria Nuland discussed with US ambassador to Ukraine who should be put in power after Yanukovitch (revealed through intercepted communications, as mentioned by Jeffrey Sachs, linked earlier in the thread), and lo and behold the person they agreed upon becomes prime minister and forms the new government. If you cant see that this is a Western backed coup you're retarded, I'm sorry.
The new government moved forward with loans on terms dictated by the West. Severe austerity measured were imposed on Ukrainian people with privatizations, wage and pension freezes, raised pension age, removed gas subsidies to households - classic exploitive IMF policies to gain access to cheap resources and labor and put a halt to economic and social development. In the next election, this government was voted out in a landslide. But the arming and fighting sponsored by the West was already underway, leading to civil war, and ultimately war.
It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne
Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all
www.theguardian.com
A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
In 2014 Ukraine, great power gamesmanship, righteous anger at a corrupt status quo, and opportunistic far-right extremists toppled the government in the Maidan Revolution. Today’s crisis in Ukraine can’t be understood without understanding Maidan.
jacobin.com
I fully expect to get warning points, bushed and posts deleted as that has happened every time I've engaged with @Pull Up the Roots
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