Biden authorizes Ukraine to use US long range missiles for deeper strikes inside Russia

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Do you think Poland isn’t right bo e worried?
Why should they be? Invading Ukraine and starting a war with NATO are two totally different things. And even look at the war with Ukraine - its been almost 3 years and Russia STILL hasn't won. Frankly their military is looking real funny in the light. They are even borrowing soldiers from N. Korea. And they are supposed to be ready, IF and WHEN they defeat Ukraine, to take on the greatest military force in the history of the planet AND their friends? And risk a nuclear war? How does that make any logical sense? Aren't people confusing what Putin may WANT to do vs what he actually CAN do?

I will say this...Trump has made several comments about his displeasure with NATO and has threatened to take the USA out of it. Now if that happens, my opinion may change. But until then, nah, Poland is good.
 
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Putin blow-up doll babble.
You still didn't do it properly. Your analogy ignores the key aspect of it all: Russian aggression. All you're doing is distorting historical realities and ignoring the principles of sovereignty. Your post is nothing more than a biased narrative favoring Russian aggression. There is no reality where it's justified. It's not justified as a defensive move, as a response to corruption (this one is especially laughable coming for Kleptocrat Putin), nor as a historical land claim. It's just an attack on a neighbor's independence by a bully who wants nothing but control. Further, your dismissal of international consensus is misleading. Russia's actions have been condemned by the international community through things like UN resolutions and sanctions.
 

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When I make a peace agreement you wont give me credit so I take none of the blame :umad:

What peace? By domestically eradicating government jobs held my middle class blacks? By giving police immunity? By destroying the American dollar and causing hyperinflation?
 

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Don't invade other countries.
Tell that to amerikkka :skip:
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Here is a list* of the countries bombed and/or invaded by the United States from the end of the Second World War to 2020:

Afghanistan 1998, 2001-
Bosnia 1994, 1995
Cambodia 1969-70
China 1945-46
Congo 1964
Cuba 1959-1961
El Salvador 1980s
Korea 1950-53
Guatemala 1954, 1960, 1967-69
Indonesia 1958Laos 1964-73
Grenada 1983
Iraq 1991-2000s, 2015-
Iran 1987
Korea 1950-53
Kuwait 1991
Lebanon 1983, 1984
Libya 1986, 2011-
Nicaragua 1980s
Pakistan 2003, 2006-Palestine 2010
Panama 1989
Peru 1965
Somalia 1993, 2007-08, 2010-
Sudan 1998
Syria 2014-
Vietnam 1961-73
Yemen 2002, 2009-
Yugoslavia 1999
Note that these countries represent roughly one-third of the people on earth.
 
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Tell that to amerikkka :skip:
I do. Y'all really need to stop automatically assuming that just because someone is criticizing Russia, they don't also criticize America and its allies. This reflexive deflection away from Russia comes across as a defense mechanism, and it's annoying. No offense.
 
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People don’t understand, we wouldn’t be in a conventional war with Russia if there ever was a formal declaration.

That kind of war won’t look like Top Gun with both sides trying to have dog fights. Rather, planes deployed probably won’t have anywhere to land that isn’t a nuclear zone after a few hours

Super Powers at real war have nukes as the first and last option. Period. Nobody wants to be the Super Power that shoots them 2nd in response and everybody wants to be the Super Power that launches the last one.
 

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If you're gonna do a Mexico analogy, do it properly.

Let's say Mexico has always had regions with a substantial population of Americans (not an ethnicity but bear with me). Let's say the US has pipelines to South America through Mexico. Let's say the US has port access to seas from within Mexico (I know, makes no sense but keep up).

So, the situation is that the US has vital economic and security interests in Mexico. Therefore they have an outsized influence on what happens in Mexico and its government, which is only prudent. However there's no hostilities, it's peaceful relations and Mexicans are not at all interested in fighting about it. They are developing their economy just fine, IT industry sector and grain exports. The US is trying to recover from a highly corrupt, failed state-status, and is working on developing trade and its economy. They have been trying to break free from exploitive and damaging economic influence from their historical adversary that operates international institutions to its advantage.

Things would have been just fine developing like that. But here comes China, the historical adversary. They start to push for including countries in North and South America into their military alliance. This is in spite of the fact that the alliance is obsolete, as the US isn't being adversarial or confrontational, but would still be a boon to China's military industry nonetheless. They succeed in getting Canada and other countries surrounding America to join. The US is unhappy and protests peacefully through diplomacy.

China presses on and wants now to include Mexico and Cuba (Georgia IRL), which is unacceptable for the US as that would critically disrupt its ability to develop the country if there's a conflict. They make this unequivocally clear. China wants to put missile bases and build military forces in Mexico. The US can't live with this, just the same as decades prior when China would not tolerate American missile bases in Mongolia.

China overthrows the Mexican government, starts arming Mexican forces and they attack American populated regions. THIS is when hostilities and armed conflict begins. The US sees where things are headed and decides to annex an American populated region in Mexico that grants port access (Crimea IRL).

Mexican forces destroy economic and trade infrastructure of the US. Tens of thousands of people will be killed and millions of Americans will flee out of Mexico into the US. The US is STILL trying to solve this diplomatically, and a peace agreement is signed. The key point of the agreement is that Mexico remain neutral with no military presence from either side. But China violated the agreement right away and continues to arm Mexican forces. The fighting escalates.

War breaks out. After much fighting, the US has annexed regions where they have economic and security interests for Americans, and will hold on to these new territories because their counterparts have lost all credibility. They will not be able to trust any kind of agreement. They will hold these positions, and eventually China will get bored and move on to a different conflict zone. After all, they are known for pulling this same shyt all over the world, particularly in the Middle East and Africa.

Now back to reality. You see, "sovereignty" in this context doesn't mean shyt, yet this is the straw idiot posters here keep grasping at. That shyt already been violated by America and Ukraine when they attacked Russians and their economic interests inside Ukraine. The US is the aggressor, and the rest of the world seems to agree because they continue to work with Russia while America and its Western allies continue to isolate themselves.
Bro…. Wait a fukking minute your metaphor goes off the rails when you said China overthrows the Mexico’s government. When did the west overthrow Ukraine’s government?

:why:

Was an election where the party that wasn’t pro sucking Russia’s dikk this overthrow you are talking about? It’s a key fact in your assessment that you are missing.

Also the Ukraine’s want to fight. America isn’t pushing this on them, cause they have nothing to gain.

Lastly Russia ain’t America. The amount of casualties on their side is staggering.
 
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