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Your average black person isn't mixed. They include biracial people in those stats anyways. Also steph curry mom is damn near white lol.

Wrong. Average black American is almost 20% white.

As they reported today in PLOS Genetics, McGill's Simon Gravel and his colleagues studied the migration history and genomic diversity of African Americans by drawing on a cohort of more than 3,700 African Americans who'd undergone genotyping. From this, the researchers estimated that about 82 percent of African Americans' ancestors could be traced to Africa and nearly 17 percent to Europe. Within the US, they found that mixing between African Americans' ancestors and European Americans largely took place in the pre-Civil War South

Genetic Makeup of African-American Populations Influenced by Ancestry-Biased Migrations
 

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Your average black person isn't mixed. They include biracial people in those stats anyways. Also steph curry mom is damn near white lol.
EXACTLY!!

THESE idiots are saying this white skin lady is full black

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It won't let me click on the link are they including biracial people in that? Cuz that will throw those type of stats off

Black man, biracial isn't an actual thing because the Americas have had miscegenation from the time the Euros greeted the Natives...

As it stands to your question, if you are black in America, and have at least one black parent who is native to the West (the Americas or the Caribbean), it is virtually impossible you don't have white blood. That study tested anyone who self-identified as black because those studies are voluntary--->and you know from being a black man in America that we are a rainbow of hues and features. It didn't only test black people who look like they from Rwanda...

One of the worst things to happen to black people is that we have yet to break free from learned ideology of subdividing ourselves...

EXACTLY!!

THESE idiots are saying this white skin lady is full black

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You nikkas love calling names on here, but who said she was "full black"? Newsflash nikka, "full black" isn't a thing over here unless you have two parents from The Motherland. You nikkas would be real disappointed if you were able to DNA test all your homies and crushes...

She black, she identifies as black, but more importantly she culturally black and raised a black family. You looking for a "full black" in America you on a lonely road, Smart Guy...
 

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Black man, biracial isn't an actual thing because the Americas have had miscegenation from the time the Euros greeted the Natives...

As it stands to your question, if you are black in America, and have at least one black parent who is native to the West (the Americas or the Caribbean), it is virtually impossible you don't have white blood. That study tested anyone who self-identified as black because those studies are voluntary--->and you know from being a black man in America that we are a rainbow of hues and features. It didn't only test black people who look like they from Rwanda...

One of the worst things to happen to black people is that we have yet to break free from learned ideology of subdividing ourselves...



You nikkas love calling names on here, but who said she was "full black"? Newsflash nikka, "full black" isn't a thing over here unless you have two parents from The Motherland. You nikkas would be real disappointed if you were able to DNA test all your homies and crushes...

She black, she identifies as black, but more importantly she culturally black and raised a black family. You looking for a "full black" in America you on a lonely road, Smart Guy...
Lmao you calling this green eyed, white skinned woman black. Hahahahaha yeah convo is done breh,
 
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Black man, biracial isn't an actual thing because the Americas have had miscegenation from the time the Euros greeted the Natives...

As it stands to your question, if you are black in America, and have at least one black parent who is native to the West (the Americas or the Caribbean), it is virtually impossible you don't have white blood. That study tested anyone who self-identified as black because those studies are voluntary--->and you know from being a black man in America that we are a rainbow of hues and features. It didn't only test black people who look like they from Rwanda...

One of the worst things to happen to black people is that we have yet to break free from learned ideology of subdividing ourselves...



You nikkas love calling names on here, but who said she was "full black"? Newsflash nikka, "full black" isn't a thing over here unless you have two parents from The Motherland. You nikkas would be real disappointed if you were able to DNA test all your homies and crushes...

She black, she identifies as black, but more importantly she culturally black and raised a black family. You looking for a "full black" in America you on a lonely road, Smart Guy...
I get what you saying about "full black" but having a small bit of white blood is a lot different from being straight up mixed, & as far as people "identifying as black" it's not going to be accurate using biracial people who identify as black to claim that "most black people are mixed". If a woman like steph curry mom was in on that study it's fluke cuz she doesn't look like your average black american and is closer to white than anything.
 

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I get what you saying about "full black" but having a small bit of white blood is a lot different from being straight up mixed, & as far as people "identifying as black" it's not going to be accurate using biracial people who identify as black to claim that "most black people are mixed". If a woman like steph curry mom was in on that study it's fluke cuz she doesn't look like your average black american and is closer to white than anything.

She has two black parents, though, and grew up black. I could 'maybe' agree if she didn't grow up in black culture and maybe had a white parent, but she doesn't:

Sonya Curry turns experiences with racism into lessons for her children

I think the biggest area of disagreement for us is that I don't see "mixed" or "biracial" as a thing because damn near all of us are. I'm not in to subdividing our culture and playing "The Purity Game", we are only 12% of the population. I'm not into saying "this person is more mixed so they not really black"...

I respectfully disagree with you, mane!

Obviously there is significant Euro in her, but there is significant Euro in most of us. Maybe she has more than most, but I think that only bothers people who think black people have to look a certain way...

I've shared this before: that's me in my avi. Multiple DNA tests place me between 25-26% European genetically. I have two black parents and four black grandparents. Can you look at me and tell I'm a quarter white? Or do I pass the "Purity Test" because I don't look a quarter white? If I was light skinned with stronger Euro features would I fail the standard of blackness?

For all we know, Sonya Curry could be over 50% black genetically. I just have a major problem with separating ourselves on colorist agendas!

To reiterate, the difference with Halsey to me is that while she (allegedly) has a black father, she wasn't raised black; she doesn't date black; she doesn't live as a black woman; she didn't grow up in a black area; she doesn't champion black causes, etc. I'm certainly not advocating for her as a black woman---->none of those descriptors apply to Steph's mom, though. She is the opposite of everything I said about Halsey, and has two black parents to boot...
 
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She has two black parents, though, and grew up black. I could 'maybe' agree if she didn't grow up in black culture and maybe had a white parent, but she doesn't:

Sonya Curry turns experiences with racism into lessons for her children

I think the biggest area of disagreement for us is that I don't see "mixed" or "biracial" as a thing because damn near all of us are. I'm not in to subdividing our culture and playing "The Purity Game", we are only 12% of the population. I'm not into saying "this person is more mixed so they not really black"...

I respectfully disagree with you, mane!

Obviously there is significant Euro in her, but there is significant Euro in most of us. Maybe she has more than most, but I think that only bothers people who think black people have to look a certain way...

I've shared this before: that's me in my avi. Multiple DNA tests place me between 25-26% European genetically. I have two black parents and four black grandparents. Can you look at me and tell I'm a quarter white? Or do I pass the "Purity Test" because I don't look a quarter white? If I was light skinned with stronger Euro features would I fail the standard of blackness?

For all we know, Sonya Curry could be over 50% black genetically. I just have a major problem with separating ourselves on colorist agendas!

To reiterate, the difference with Halsey to me is that while she (allegedly) has a black father, she wasn't raised black; she doesn't date black; she doesn't live as a black woman; she didn't grow up in a black area; she doesn't champion black causes, etc. I'm certainly not advocating for her as a black woman---->none of those descriptors apply to Steph's mom, though. She is the opposite of everything I said about Halsey, and has two black parents to boot...
All people of a certain race look a certain way. That is what race is. I agree that socially being mixed has never been a thing, but it's real genetically and while I'm not a "racial purist" after a while you gotta draw a line, and nobody can sit here and tell me she looks more black than white lol. It seems like you going off social aspects and not looks, which really race is more genetic than social.
 

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All people of a certain race look a certain way. That is what race is. I agree that socially being mixed has never been a thing, but it's real genetically and while I'm not a "racial purist" after a while you gotta draw a line, and nobody can sit here and tell me she looks more black than white lol. It seems like you going off social aspects and not looks, which really race is more genetic than social.

1. The Americas are different, being that they are the most genetically mixed continents on the planet. You have muhfukkas here who look Asian, but aren't; look like whatever, but actually aren't. I think understanding the history of race here, it's a fool's errand trying to simplistically define what muhfukkas should look like...

Particularly Black Americans, who have been raised in this culture and run a wide spectrum of physical looks...

2. I'm not telling you Sonya looks more black than white, I'm just telling you I see her as black...

If genetics matter that much, I'll ask again, where do you draw the line? Am I too white at 25-26%, that's my DNA, or does it not matter since I don't have visibly stark Euro features?

3. I go by looks too, I just think I was raised in an environment where there were so much black diversity, I didn't have a narrow prism of what black "should look like". I was raised with a different awareness, not better or worse, just different. People I grew up around looked like her and there was never a reason to question their blackness...

It wasn't until I became an adult that I saw widespread colorism...

I just encourage all brothers and sisters, we are not a monolith. We don't all look the same or have the same features, it's one of the greatest things about being black. If you wanna draw a line, draw it at Halsey and people like her. I understand Sonya may not look black to some people, but I challenge those of you to look at your own prejudices of what you think black "should" look like. She looks black to me because I always knew blacks who favored her, and her entire life, she's 53, her whole life, she's lived as a black woman...

If black should look like anything, we should look like native Africans, but we can't "draw the line" there because most of us and everyone we know would fail that test easily, don't we?
 

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Black man, biracial isn't an actual thing because the Americas have had miscegenation from the time the Euros greeted the Natives...

As it stands to your question, if you are black in America, and have at least one black parent who is native to the West (the Americas or the Caribbean), it is virtually impossible you don't have white blood. That study tested anyone who self-identified as black because those studies are voluntary--->and you know from being a black man in America that we are a rainbow of hues and features. It didn't only test black people who look like they from Rwanda...

One of the worst things to happen to black people is that we have yet to break free from learned ideology of subdividing ourselves...



You nikkas love calling names on here, but who said she was "full black"? Newsflash nikka, "full black" isn't a thing over here unless you have two parents from The Motherland. You nikkas would be real disappointed if you were able to DNA test all your homies and crushes...

She black, she identifies as black, but more importantly she culturally black and raised a black family. You looking for a "full black" in America you on a lonely road, Smart Guy...
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