Bi-racial singer Hasley, smash or pass?

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I don't personally accept either one as black because Meghan just like Halsey, didn't grow up black, doesn't and hasn't lived in black communities, etc...

She has a black mother, but she isn't really black...



So just to be clear, having a white parent is how we're defining biracial? Because some fellas here say it's about genetics, and most guys are saying it's about how you look. Or is it all three?

The problem with Black Nazis is there is never consistency. It's never enough, there's always a bunch of extra disqualifiers to blackness...

The average black person doesn't have a white parent, but the average black person has considerable white ancestry. Sonya Curry obviously has white ancestry, but she doesn't have white parents, so does she count as black or do we treat light skinned blacks differently?



I don't know anyone black who claims Halsey lol. We acknowledge she has (allegedly) a black father, but that woman ain't black...

She's just finding herself and its commendable she has s strong relationship with her dad, but she's like Meghan. She has a black father, but she's not a black woman...

Meagan probably saw both worlds because of divorced parents . But she grew up with her moms in Windsor Hills (Los Angeles), CA, a middle class Black community.
 

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I don't personally accept either one as black because Meghan just like Halsey, didn't grow up black, doesn't and hasn't lived in black communities, etc...

She has a black mother, but she isn't really black...



So just to be clear, having a white parent is how we're defining biracial? Because some fellas here say it's about genetics, and most guys are saying it's about how you look. Or is it all three?

The problem with Black Nazis is there is never consistency. It's never enough, there's always a bunch of extra disqualifiers to blackness...

The average black person doesn't have a white parent, but the average black person has considerable white ancestry. Sonya Curry obviously has white ancestry, but she doesn't have white parents, so does she count as black or do we treat light skinned blacks differently?



I don't know anyone black who claims Halsey lol. We acknowledge she has (allegedly) a black father, but that woman ain't black...

She's just finding herself and its commendable she has s strong relationship with her dad, but she's like Meghan. She has a black father, but she's not a black woman...

Having a direct white parent and having half or more white DNA is one in same.
The only comparable Is if both parent are biracial, then you could have the same % but also have black on both sides.

I believe black can and should be defined as
1). Having 2 black parents.
2). A biracial that who has both parents that are biracial meaning (black/other) can still be considered black due to black bloodline on both sides.
3).the average AA/ADOS/Black person is 10-30% white, so If your admixture falls in line with those averages then your considered full AA/ADOS


I believe steph curry said his mother is half wife..fyi
 

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I believe black can and should be defined as
1). Having 2 black parents.
2). A biracial that who has both parents that are biracial meaning (black/other) can still be considered black due to black bloodline on both sides.
3).the average AA/ADOS/Black person is 10-30% white, so If your admixture falls in line with those averages then your considered full AA/ADOS


I believe steph curry said his mother is half wife..fyi

Sonya Curry has two black parents, so there's clear black on both sides. By your 3-point criteria we are assuming she is probably more than 30% white, but she meets the first two points you listed, so why don't you consider her black?

That's the problem with the purity game, there are people with stronger "black features" than she has who have an actual white or non black parent, so there isn't black on both sides, according to purists. We only subjugate lighter skinned blacks to this moving goalpost of blackness, like we expect them to have to jump through hoops to prove their blackness to us...

She's black to me because I grew up amongst other black people who have some of the same features she has--->and had two black parents. Never questioned their identity and neither did they, and for the record, Sonya Curry has never questioned who she was...

Did you read the article I linked on the previous page?
 

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Sonya Curry has two black parents, so there's clear black on both sides. By your 3-point criteria we are assuming she is probably more than 30% white, but she meets the first two points you listed, so why don't you consider her black?

That's the problem with the purity game, there are people with stronger "black features" than she has who have an actual white or non black parent, so there isn't black on both sides, according to purists. We only subjugate lighter skinned blacks to this moving goalpost of blackness, like we expect them to have to jump through hoops to prove their blackness to us...

She's black to me because I grew up amongst other black people who have some of the same features she has--->and had two black parents. Never questioned their identity and neither did they, and for the record, Sonya Curry has never questioned who she was...

Did you read the article I linked on the previous page?


Your reading what I'm stating wrong
I think you can YouTube it, but when steph curry received his mvp award at a offseasons basketball show he said he was half wife.

I'm assume it would be from his mother and not his father or both parent are biracial.

So I'm just going what steph said.

No if Sonya falls in line with what I detail for being black then yes she is black woman, I dont care about skin tone, it's about bloodline and %.
 
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Your reading what I'm stating wrong
I think you can YouTube it, but when steph curry received his mvp award at a offseasons basketball show he said he was half wife.

I'm assume it would be from his mother and not his father or both parent are biracial.

So I'm just going what steph said.

No if Sonya falls in line with what I detail for being black then yes she is black woman, I dont care about skin tone, it's about bloodline and %.
No matter if she has a white & black parent or 2 mixed parents she's still mixed thou fam lol
 

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No matter if she has a white & black parent or 2 mixed parents she's still mixed thou fam lol

I never said she wasnt mixed, but having parents with black bloodlines on both sides and having a direct white parent is different. There a acception to every rule.

But I'm still going with 2 black parents and the 10-30% cac admixture for AA/ADOS at least that's what the DNA for most AA/ADOS Reveal, remember don Cheadle is 20% cac
 
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I never said she wasnt mixed, but have parents with black bloodlines on both sides and having a direct white parent is different. There a acception to every rule.

But I'm still going with 2 black parents and the 10-30% cac admixture for AA/ADOS at least that's what the DNA for most AA/ADOS Reveal, remember don Cheadle is 20% cac
Idk about these percentages either cuz I saw something that said those tests were not accurate. Don Cheadle don't look anywhere near 20% white
 

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Idk about these percentages either cuz I saw something that said those tests were not accurate. Don Cheadle don't look anywhere near 20% white

The same testing they use for DNA, is the same test they use for paternity test to see who is the father or mother, it's the same test used to free prisoners that were wrongly convicted to clear there name.

you cant throw out DNA test unless your willing to throw all of them out.
 
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The same testing they use for DNA, is the same test they use for paternity test to see who is the father or mother, it's the same test used to free prisoners that were wrongly convicted to clear there name.

you cant throw out DNA test unless your willing to throw all of them out.
You might be right I don't remember exactly what it said but I read that it just took DNA and linked it to where u might be from, i gotta look into them more. But also if u goin by percentage then is someone with less than 50% black blood still black to you as long as they dont have a white parent?
 

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You might be right I don't remember exactly what it said but I read that it just took DNA and linked it to where u might be from, i gotta look into them more. But also if u goin by percentage then is someone with less than 50% black blood still black to you as long as they dont have a white parent?

White parent is not just the factor, its having direct parent that is not black. Also if you go by percentage some with less then 50% black blood will usually only have 1 black parent which disqualifies them. Like I said, the only exception is if both parents are biracial.
 

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This is why it’s important to have knowledge in statistics and surveying.

The only reason the number is so high is because they include biracials and clearly mixed folk in with the dark and brown skin folk. If they didn’t include them, I guaranteee the results would be very much different.

Keep thinking most actual black people in America are 20% white :mjlol:


No wonder some of y’all are so confused :ohhh:
 
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