and then do you agree that at the end of all this is the time to bring the more esoteric forms of lovemaking into the mix? i have educated many on here about this and they have been enlightened to the possibilities of bringing salted meats into the bedroom. I personally have constructed an apparatus that resembles a southern-style porch swing that the girl can get in and then she will be completely at your mercy. if they will not get in through freewill, then you must use subterfuge and/or guile, they will get in eventually. Plus, there is a built-in vibrator on the swing shaped like Kermit the Frog with his mouth open. Once you get these hoes into the right mindset, then true sexual exploration can occur.