Beyoncé is a boring robot.

[dora_da_destroyer]

I got no hate for Beyonce as I've prob said before. She has some (not much) music I like, she's an icon, she's the queen of pop etc etc. The thing I always wonder about is how she did a soft reboot of her career. In 2011 she dropped an album that was popular, but wasn't "biggest thing in the world" popular. That album, 4, had Girls (Who Run The World) on it but wasn't some massive smash album. It sold 300k first week. For comparison, Lady Gaga did 1mil first week that same year. Adele did 350k first week that same year, on an album that ultimately went on to sell 10 million records.

Then two years later she dropped the self titled album and completely shifted from "popular but waning popularity" figure to legit queen of everything. That album did 617k first week with multiple smash hits. Few years later Lemonade did 480k and again set everything on fire.

Was it just a matter of better songwriting and getting the right records at the right time? Perhaps. Because I remember in 2010/2011 ppl were kinda clowning her.

She’s not the queen of pop, she’s not even the princess of pop...that’s my only contribution here

 

[daemonova]

Bbl

 

[phillycavsfan]

I got no hate for Beyonce as I've prob said before. She has some (not much) music I like, she's an icon, she's the queen of pop etc etc. The thing I always wonder about is how she did a soft reboot of her career. In 2011 she dropped an album that was popular, but wasn't "biggest thing in the world" popular. That album, 4, had Girls (Who Run The World) on it but wasn't some massive smash album. It sold 300k first week. For comparison, Lady Gaga did 1mil first week that same year. Adele did 350k first week that same year, on an album that ultimately went on to sell 10 million records.

Then two years later she dropped the self titled album and completely shifted from "popular but waning popularity" figure to legit queen of everything. That album did 617k first week with multiple smash hits. Few years later Lemonade did 480k and again set everything on fire.

Was it just a matter of better songwriting and getting the right records at the right time? Perhaps. Because I remember in 2010/2011 ppl were kinda clowning her.

My theory (unproven) is that Solange started working with her just before the self-titled album.

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

the levels of juelzing

 

[Solo_87]

My theory (unproven) is that Solange started working with her just before the self-titled album.

Solange only cowrote 3, 4 tracks for her earlier in Beys career

The album 4 which underperformed leaked some weeks before it was released and that was prior to the streaming era. Thats why it underperformed. Its racked up a billion streams now and went on to go multi platinum

It was also an r&b album and at the time EDM was the wave

 

[Solo_87]

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I'm in a pickle when it comes to Beyonce.I think how she carry herself as high caliber black excellence/royalty is a good thing for young black girls to look up to.In many ways, her image is damn near perfect.Do I think it's a lil manufactured & exaggerated? Yes....But at the same time, it works for the people who buy into it.Seperate from that, as an artist, I always felt like she was bland.More pop'ish than soulful.She probably wouldn't crack my personal top 10 best female artist list.I know people claim her technical skills to be flawless, but that don't =Soul to me.Her stage shows are spectacular, but she don't have the stand alone charisma of say a Whitney Houston or Chaka Khan.Those are artist that can go anywhere.Stadium, jazz lounge, blues bar, BBQ, or in your living room on the karaoke machine sipping Boones Farm.I feel like Beyonce is more compatible with the "machine",the "spectacle"..In my world, she's not even approaching Mary J Blige.Outside of that, Bey's an excellent role model.I understand why a lot of people love & take pride in her from that standpoint.They about to be mad at me, tho

 

[Bmezy]

I'm in a pickle when it comes to Beyonce.I think how she carry herself as high caliber black excellence/royalty is a good thing for young black girls to look up to.In many ways, her image is damn near perfect.Do I think it's a lil manufactured & exaggerated? Yes....But at the same time, it works for the people who buy into it.Seperate from that, as an artist, I always felt like she was bland.More pop'ish than soulful.She probably wouldn't crack my personal top 10 best female artist list.I know people claim her technical skills to be flawless, but that don't =Soul to me.Her stage shows are spectacular, but she don't have the stand alone charisma of say a Whitney Houston or Chaka Khan.Those are artist that can go anywhere.Stadium, jazz lounge, blues bar, BBQ, or in your living room on the karaoke machine sipping Boones Farm.I feel like Beyonce is more compatible with the "machine",the "spectacle"..In my world, she's not even approaching Mary J Blige.Outside of that, Bey's an excellent role model.I understand why a lot of people love & take pride in her from that standpoint.They about to be mad at me, tho

ur on thecoli.. who’s gonna be mad at u for ur preference.. I used to keep my opinion bout the MJ worship being too much but fukk that .. stand on dat shyt

 

[Doin2Much Williams]

I wonder if she takes a shiit like a robot as well.



.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

ur on thecoli.. who’s gonna be mad at u for ur preference.. I used to keep my opinion bout the MJ worship being too much but fukk that .. stand on dat shyt

I'm not sweating it all.Just stating what's true.Folks act real touchy when you speak on Beyonce.No worries on my end.

 

[Solo_87]

I'm in a pickle when it comes to Beyonce.I think how she carry herself as high caliber black excellence/royalty is a good thing for young black girls to look up to.In many ways, her image is damn near perfect.Do I think it's a lil manufactured & exaggerated? Yes....But at the same time, it works for the people who buy into it.Seperate from that, as an artist, I always felt like she was bland.More pop'ish than soulful.She probably wouldn't crack my personal top 10 best female artist list.I know people claim her technical skills to be flawless, but that don't =Soul to me.Her stage shows are spectacular, but she don't have the stand alone charisma of say a Whitney Houston or Chaka Khan.Those are artist that can go anywhere.Stadium, jazz lounge, blues bar, BBQ, or in your living room on the karaoke machine sipping Boones Farm.I feel like Beyonce is more compatible with the "machine",the "spectacle"..In my world, she's not even approaching Mary J Blige.Outside of that, Bey's an excellent role model.I understand why a lot of people love & take pride in her from that standpoint.They about to be mad at me, tho

Interesting

I dont see her career and rise as much different than that of a Whitney, Janet, Diana...They had a Clive Davis or and a Motown and Barry Gordy behind them... straddled the pop/r&b line

Bey had her dad and her talent. Worth mentioning he was no Clive Davis or Barry Gordy. Bruh worked in sales prior

As far as whether she has soul its subjective and hard to quantify

For me when I listen to Beys Dangerously In Love or Listen I hear "soul"....she's one of the most versatile and emotive female singers the last 20 years

Seen her wreck the stage doing everything from gospel, soul, rnb, country, etc

And this is coming from a big Mary J Blidge, Fantasia fan

Her and Mary have a dope collab by the way


I'll just say her singles dont do her justice with the exception of a Deja Vu, Love On Top, MyMyself&I... Hell I wasnt really a big of Bey until Jill Scott, who I'm a big fan of, named her as her favorite singers and that kind of opened my mind

Her performance with Prince at the Grammys is probably one of favorite performances of all time as well

But different strokes ...

 

[NormanConnors]

I'm in a pickle when it comes to Beyonce.I think how she carry herself as high caliber black excellence/royalty is a good thing for young black girls to look up to.In many ways, her image is damn near perfect.Do I think it's a lil manufactured & exaggerated? Yes....But at the same time, it works for the people who buy into it.Seperate from that, as an artist, I always felt like she was bland.More pop'ish than soulful.She probably wouldn't crack my personal top 10 best female artist list.I know people claim her technical skills to be flawless, but that don't =Soul to me.Her stage shows are spectacular, but she don't have the stand alone charisma of say a Whitney Houston or Chaka Khan.Those are artist that can go anywhere.Stadium, jazz lounge, blues bar, BBQ, or in your living room on the karaoke machine sipping Boones Farm.I feel like Beyonce is more compatible with the "machine",the "spectacle"..In my world, she's not even approaching Mary J Blige.Outside of that, Bey's an excellent role model.I understand why a lot of people love & take pride in her from that standpoint.They about to be mad at me, tho

Perfect explanation

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Music wise i haven't been interested since Destiny's Child

 

[L $ C]

music wise very boring to me


as the kids say, her shyt dont really slap

 

[daemonova]