You're talking like those dudes were elite running mates
I'll never shyt on Melo. That's my guy
Better player/career: Chris Paul or Allen Iverson
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You're talking like those dudes were elite running mates
I'll never shyt on Melo. That's my guy
Apprentice
RIP Doughboy Roc
Unfortunately nobody cares bout that
Your career is wrapped how they remember u, AI seen as a top 5 SG ever despite his short comings and also is the foundation for the playstyle of the last Gen
Trust me I think CP the better player I just see wat it is
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Allen Iverson vs. Chris Paul Comparison
Head-to-head comparison between the NBA stars Chris Paul and Allen Iverson that includes championships won, honors and awards obtained, regular season and playoffs stats and other data put side by side.
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WTF IS NUMBER 2 IN MVP VOTING?
#2 in MVP voting usually means that you played well enough to win an MVP, but someone else happened to have more of a narrative that year. Chris Paul got 28 1st-place votes that year, which was more than Kobe got in ANY season other than 2008, and a lot of people felt that CP3 only finished 2nd because Kobe got career achievement sympathy after not having gotten one for so long.
There are 2-3-4 or more legitimate MVP-quality seasons in any given year, but only one player can win.
DEVIN BOOKER WAS THE #1 ON THAT FINALS TEAM.
Chris Paul was the reason they went from a losing record and 10th place the previous year to the #2 seed and Finals berth that year. He was the CLEAR team leader and difference-maker. Even your narrative-loving ass could understand that.
And if you understand stats better:
WCSF against the Nuggets:
CP3 averaged 26-5-10 on 63% shooting, 75% from 3pt, and was the better defender and clear team leader on both ends
Booker averaged 25-8-4 on 49% shooting, 31% from 3pt, and was the inferior defender and a follower
In the clinching game of the series, CP3 put up 37 points and 7 assists on 14-19 shooting, while Booker went 11-25 for 34-11-4
WCF against the Clippers:
CP3 averaged 24-3-9 on 42% shooting, 38% from 3pt, and was the better defender and clear team leader on both ends
Booker averaged 26-6-5 on 38% shooting, 29% from 3pt
In the clinching game of the series, CP3 put up 41 points and 8 assists on 16-24 shooting (7-8 from 3pt). Booker had just 22 and 4 on 10-26 shooting.
Booker was the superior player in the 1st round, but that was due to CP3 having a shoulder contusion that knocked him out of Game 1 and severely limited him for most of the series.
CP3 was the better player in the WCSF and WCF and the one who played best in the games that mattered most. Booker was a career loser who had never even been to the playoffs and whose own team didn't fully trust him yet. If you want to say who led that team to the Finals, it was Chris Paul.
feelosofer
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AI had to carry the offensive load in most of the years in Philly. Chris Paul played on more talented teams. Paul was the better player but I actually think AI is underrated.
InstantKlassik
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CP0 doesn’t move the needle.
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
This is clearly Chris Paul.
New Orleans Chris Paul before his knee injury was on a whole other level.
New Orleans Chris Paul before his knee injury was on a whole other level.
GreatestLaker
#FirePelinka
AI really had no business winning that MVP. That was Shaq's second best season ever.
More playoff success too. CP3 led his team to 12 playoff series wins including a Finals run, Iverson only has 6 (half of them in that one Finals run).
Iverson finished 1st, 4th twice, 5th, 6th, and 7th in MVP races
CP3 finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th twice, 6th twice, 7th twice
So if anything, CP3 was more consistently a serious MVP candidate than CP3, but Iverson just got more votes that 1 season
CP3 has 12 All-Star appearances to 11 by Iverson
CP3 has 11 All-NBA selections to 7 by Iverson
CP3 has 4 1st-team All-NBA and 5 2nd-team selections, while Iverson has just 3 1st-team and 3 2nd-team
CP3 has 9 All-Defensive selections (7 of them 1st-team) to 0 by Iverson
Both were Rookie of the Year
By literally every other accolade and objective measure of success, CP3 comes out on top of Iverson.
You can, it just won’t happen on narrative-pushing ass, “my era was the best” ass Coli
who_better_than_me
Time to go!!
He carried the offensive load because that's the only way his playing style worked.
When he first got to Philly they had Jerry Stackhouse and Derrick Coleman to share the scoring load, but that team was horrible even with three guys who could put up 20+ on any given night. They didn't get even CLOSE to the playoffs until they structured the team around Iverson volume shooting while everyone else held things down on defense.
When he went to Denver and joined Carmelo, JR Smith, Nene, Andre Miller....they couldn't do anything. Not a single playoff series win.
Even in that one Finals run they had in 2001, it was crazy how much defense and coaching held that squad together. The Sixers won Game 4 on the road in Indiana with Iverson going 10-31 from the field. Won Game 4 on the road in Toronto with Iverson going 10-30 from the field. Won Game 7 against Toronto in the ECSF with Iverson scoring just 21 points going 8-27 from the field. Beat Milwaukee in Game 5 of the ECF with Iverson scoring just 16 on 5-26 shooting. Iverson had some HUGE games in that playoff run, but they don't win if the rest of the team wasn't playing elite defense game in and game out.
Pacers, Raptors and Bucks weren't even very good defensive squads (11th, 14th, and 20th in defensive rating that year). Iverson just couldn't hit shyt, but the Sixers role players put enough points on the board and their defense was shutting shyt down. Even when Iverson rested completely for Game 3 of the ECF, the Sixers lost by just 6 (80-74) despite missing eight consecutive FGA to close the game.
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Apprentice
RIP Doughboy Roc
Everyone knows I’m one of the biggest CP fans
But y’all nikkas geekin in here relax
But y’all nikkas geekin in here relax
Fixed*11 time all NBA selection
9 time all NBA defensive team
5 time NBA assists leader
6 time NBA steals leader
12 time All Star
Rookie of the year
Top 5 all time in his position
Steph curry’s bytch
Y'all really need to put more respect on my man's name btw. Some of y'all be showing your age and talking about him like you only ever saw the OKC, Phoenix and GSW version
Narratives again.
CP3 on the Clippers won their first series 4 games to 3
CP3 on the Rockets was up 3-2 in their second series before getting hurt.
CP3 on the Rockets lost their third series 4 games to 2