Best Rapper Alive - 1988

[mobbinfms]

U said the same in the 2000 thread about DMX as if gfk was really killing 2000 like X was.




U can have the last word. These polls r bullshyt. A bunch of people commenting on shyt they didn't experience is like a virgin explaing sex.

And don't lie either. You're gonna be in the next thread. And you're virgin comparison makes zero sense.

 

[kingofnyc]

my nikka aint got 1 vote yet
like he aint drop 1 of the all time classic

 

[mobbinfms]

my nikka aint got 1 vote yet
like he aint drop 1 of the all time classic

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Results are in:

5th place - Eazy-E (1 pt)
4th place - Chuck D (2 pts)
3rd place - Ice Cube (3 pts)
2nd place (tied) - Slick Rick/Big Daddy Kane (5 pts)

and your back to back MVP winner for 1987 and 1988 is The R, Rakim (10 pts)

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Why do people think that if you didn't experience something then you can't comment on it? That's like saying kids can't have history in school because they didn't live through it

I think it comes down to taking information from a primary source, ie someone who was there and at least in middle school. I mean sure I guess I was there too but I was only 7 years old. Thank god @mobbinfms and I were around during a time where mainstream music outlets made it easy for us to do our homework. I also give props to you and @Inspect Her Deck for going back to dig into the classics. But since we weren't of age to truly experience 1988 I think our view of who was the man in 1988 may be clouded by the overall legacies of the guys in the poll.

I totally forgot about rob base and how HUGE that song was because when we look back on the late 80s we always focus rakim, kane, and kool g rap because their legacies set up the blueprint for 90s rap and beyond (especially on the east).

@smokeurobinson and @kingofnyc really helped to jog my memory and realize what the deal was. Biz markie still the king of 1988 though . You better have listened to that album in entirety by now


Either I wouldn't take it personal.

 

[MidnightMercenary]

I think it comes down to taking information from a primary source, ie someone who was there and at least in middle school. I mean sure I guess I was there too but I was only 7 years old. Thank god @mobbinfms and I were around during a time where mainstream music outlets made it easy for us to do our homework. I also give props to you and @Inspect Her Deck for going back to dig into the classics. But since we weren't of age to truly experience 1988 I think our view of who was the man in 1988 may be clouded by the overall legacies of the guys in the poll.

I totally forgot about rob base and how HUGE that song was because when we look back on the late 80s we always focus rakim, kane, and kool g rap because their legacies set up the blueprint for 90s rap and beyond (especially on the east).

@smokeurobinson and @kingofnyc really helped to jog my memory and realize what the deal was. Biz markie still the king of 1988 though . You better have listened to that album in entirety by now


Either I wouldn't take it personal.

Appreciate it breh

 

[mobbinfms]

I think it comes down to taking information from a primary source, ie someone who was there and at least in middle school. I mean sure I guess I was there too but I was only 7 years old. Thank god @mobbinfms and I were around during a time where mainstream music outlets made it easy for us to do our homework. I also give props to you and @Inspect Her Deck for going back to dig into the classics. But since we weren't of age to truly experience 1988 I think our view of who was the man in 1988 may be clouded by the overall legacies of the guys in the poll.

I totally forgot about rob base and how HUGE that song was because when we look back on the late 80s we always focus rakim, kane, and kool g rap because their legacies set up the blueprint for 90s rap and beyond (especially on the east).

@smokeurobinson and @kingofnyc really helped to jog my memory and realize what the deal was. Biz markie still the king of 1988 though . You better have listened to that album in entirety by now


Either I wouldn't take it personal.

I agree completely. If you weren't around, especially back then, you weren't around and playing catch up and doing your homework won't ever be the same as being a fully engaged fan in real time.
That being said...nobody should be excluded from participating in this thread. Especially since its about who was the "best" rapper and not the "biggest" or most "popular".

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

I think it comes down to taking information from a primary source, ie someone who was there and at least in middle school. I mean sure I guess I was there too but I was only 7 years old. Thank god @mobbinfms and I were around during a time where mainstream music outlets made it easy for us to do our homework. I also give props to you and @Inspect Her Deck for going back to dig into the classics. But since we weren't of age to truly experience 1988 I think our view of who was the man in 1988 may be clouded by the overall legacies of the guys in the poll.

I totally forgot about rob base and how HUGE that song was because when we look back on the late 80s we always focus rakim, kane, and kool g rap because their legacies set up the blueprint for 90s rap and beyond (especially on the east).

@smokeurobinson and @kingofnyc really helped to jog my memory and realize what the deal was. Biz markie still the king of 1988 though . You better have listened to that album in entirety by now


Either I wouldn't take it personal.

Excellent point bro.

All I'm trying to do is spark the discussion, and make the polls fun so people's opinions can count for something. That's all.

I appreciate those who have lived through certain eras but it shouldn't exclude anyone from participating.

Gonna listen to that Biz Markie.

 

[Taadow]

This thread series is flawed.

Especially since its about who was the "best" rapper and not the "biggest" or most "popular".

Really? This is the supposed point?

 

[Awesome Wells]

I didn't wanna say anything


But when you add in roxanne shantes stuff with biz's stuff kane was holding down '88 on three fronts with his own music plus the ghostwriting.

Exactly!

Kane was that dude!!

 

[mobbinfms]

This thread series is flawed.



Really? This is the supposed point?

Best is best breh.

 

[Taadow]

Best is best breh.

But how do you really quantify "best"?

@Inspect Her Deck has in effect been calling this "The MVP" of each year, and MVP doesn't necessarily mean "best".
So if this series is looking for the "best rapper" of each year, that's a harder question than who was "most valuable".

Furthermore, if someone is the best rapper of 1987, then it stands to reason he (or she, objectionably) is probably
the best rapper of 1988 because they're still riding the wave of their album they released in 1987.

...this is why I said the premise of this thread series is flawed.

 

[Wepa Man]

Mos def it was BDK

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

But how do you really quantify "best"?

@Inspect Her Deck has in effect been calling this "The MVP" of each year, and MVP doesn't necessarily mean "best".
So if this series is looking for the "best rapper" of each year, that's a harder question than who was "most valuable".

Furthermore, if someone is the best rapper of 1987, then it stands to reason he (or she, objectionably) is probably
the best rapper of 1988 because they're still riding the wave of their album they released in 1987.

...this is why I said the premise of this thread series is flawed.

MVP is a sporting term breh I'm using it for fun, in this context it is pretty much synonymous with 'best rapper'. The title of the thread is best rapper.

MVP works more in a sporting context because of a value to someone's team. You can't really apply that perfectly to hip-hop. If Nas is the MVP of 1994, who's he most valuable to? Hip-hop fans? Record label? The history books? Hard to judge.

I only have one criteria, which is that an artist in contention for 'MVP' of a given year releases a project of some sort that year. LP, EP...whatever. As for how you judge the MVP, that's up to you. Is it rap skills? Is it sales? Album strength? Participation throughout the year? A combination? Each voter goes off their own criteria, so I guess there could be a flaw there with the fact that there's no direct focus on what to vote for.

But I feel that most of the winners of the MVP awards are rated either on pure skill merit or off the strength of their album, which factors in their skills and maybe stuff like sales or singles success. That's what we want rather than just make it a popularity contest.

 

[kingofnyc]

But how do you really quantify "best"?

@Inspect Her Deck has in effect been calling this "The MVP" of each year, and MVP doesn't necessarily mean "best".
So if this series is looking for the "best rapper" of each year, that's a harder question than who was "most valuable".

Furthermore, if someone is the best rapper of 1987, then it stands to reason he (or she, objectionably) is probably
the best rapper of 1988 because they're still riding the wave of their album they released in 1987.

...this is why I said the premise of this thread series is flawed.

i gotta agree with your best vs MVP argument



for example
da lil lite skin nigglet in golden state was the MVP
BUT
we ALLLL.... know who was & still is da best player in da game