Best NBA players without a ring, and why Melo doesn't belong in the conversation

[23Barrettcity]

I been an low-key Melo stan since he was Syracuse but he had WAY more help than KG did in Minnesota

Ehh melo had underperforming names

 

[Youngdev]

Melo hasn't been the best playoff performers In some of the year's he has been in the playoffs all I can say that.

But melo has had bad luck in the playoffs, with injuries and seeding and all that.

But I thought melo was irrelevant, i swear every other day its a thread about this nikka.

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[Reggie]

Melo is an elite talent all day long. But he does get a pass from the media for not playing deep in the playoffs. I think they don't think he is a franchise type for real. I still think with the right mix of players he could lead a team to the finals one day. He just needs to learn how to play without the basketball and use the body on the block. Kobe ain't call him the Blacktop Bully or some shyt like that. The boy got a nasty post game, he just needs to use it and shouldn't shoot more than one or two three pointers a game.

 

[FTBS]

Well we were the. 6th seed the first year so that's not barely making it and our team got depleted in the trade , we were the 7 th seed the next year with a million injuries Anything else ??? You missed him carrying us into the playoffs ?
By the way melo was criticized but you acting like Denver is la or ny noone cares once the season over in the media. You hear people still talking about atl when they lose ? Only thing Denver had going for them was melo

Anybody on ATL got Melo's profile? I heard people talking about a nikka in Orlando and a nikka in Minnesota when they lost. nikka in NY why now so that excuse really doesn't cut it. Point blank nikkas just like Melo and therefore ignore or cop pleas for shyt they would kill others for. Like I said before I don't beleive if giving individuals all the credit/blame for wins/losses but if you do it you better be consistent. nikkas aren't consistent when it comes to Melo. No player of his status would be able to get away with a 9 year run like this.

As far as the trade goes he's the one who put money over the team. He coulda signed as a FA with all those other nikkas in tow so eliminate that excuse.

All I hear about is how weak the east is and now it's an accomplishment to be a fukking 6th or 7th seed? Stop it.

 

[obarth]

Anybody on ATL got Melo's profile? I heard people talking about a nikka in Orlando and a nikka in Minnesota when they lost. nikka in NY why now so that excuse really doesn't cut it. Point blank nikkas just like Melo and therefore ignore or cop pleas for shyt they would kill others for. Like I said before I don't beleive if giving individuals all the credit/blame for wins/losses but if you do it you better be consistent. nikkas aren't consistent when it comes to Melo. No player of his status would be able to get away with a 9 year run like this.

As far as the trade goes he's the one who put money over the team. He coulda signed as a FA with all those other nikkas in tow so eliminate that excuse.

All I hear about is how weak the east is and now it's an accomplishment to be a fukking 6th or 7th seed? Stop it.

What kind of logic is this? I'll let you in on something: people who base their opinions on shyt as general as how far in the playoffs you get, or don't get, without asking why that is are fukking idiots. It's lazy analysis. God forbid we treat each case on its own and dissect it to come to a logical, reasonable conclusion. Nah, we'll just check to see if they have a ring or not and make our minds up from there. I swear some of y'all genuinely think you know sports when all you do is watch ESPN and analyze shyt just as shallowly as they do.

And as for the bullshyt, he never got out of the first round or only got out of the first round once. Did any of you ever play sports. I know the media is full of non-athletic losers who never picked up a ball in their life and want to romanticize the most routine of things in sports. But anyone who ever played before knows that no athlete is patting themselves on the fukking back for making the conference finals a couple times and losing in the finals once. You play to win the fukking championship. First round, second round, Finals, if you lose at any point your ass still lost. Since when did we celebrate getting close in this country? Second place is the same as last place when only one person wins. Yeah you want to see your team making progress, but winning is all that matters. A lot of y'all nikkas were probably the kids satisfied with getting the small ass trophy or the ribbon for participation while the champs help up a brolic ass trophy.

 

[FTBS]

What kind of logic is this? I'll let you in on something: people who base their opinions on shyt as general as how far in the playoffs you get, or don't get, without asking why that is are fukking idiots. It's lazy analysis. God forbid we treat each case on its own and dissect it to come to a logical, reasonable conclusion. Nah, we'll just check to see if they have a ring or not and make our minds up from there. I swear some of y'all genuinely think you know sports when all you do is watch ESPN and analyze shyt just as shallowly as they do.

And as for the bullshyt, he never got out of the first round or only got out of the first round once. Did any of you ever play sports. I know the media is full of non-athletic losers who never picked up a ball in their life and want to romanticize the most routine of things in sports. But anyone who ever played before knows that no athlete is patting themselves on the fukking back for making the conference finals a couple times and losing in the finals once. You play to win the fukking championship. First round, second round, Finals, if you lose at any point your ass still lost. Since when did we celebrate getting close in this country? Second place is the same as last place when only one person wins. Yeah you want to see your team making progress, but winning is all that matters. A lot of y'all nikkas were probably the kids satisfied with getting the small ass trophy or the ribbon for participation while the champs help up a brolic ass trophy.

Get your reading skills together. I clearly stated that I don't subscribe to the idealogy of giving all the credit/blame to individuals however I can deal with it as long as people are consistent. All I have been asking is why are people being inconsistent with Melo? Why is he getting a pass that so many others haven't gotten? That is all I am asking and haven't gotten an answer yet. Maybe you can help.

 

[obarth]

Get your reading skills together. I clearly stated that I don't subscribe to the idealogy of giving all the credit/blame to individuals however I can deal with it as long as people are consistent. All I have been asking is why are people being inconsistent with Melo? Why is he getting a pass that so many others haven't gotten? That is all I am asking and haven't gotten an answer yet. Maybe you can help.

And my point is it's not something to be ok with in the first place. The people that give all the credit or blame to an individual don't know shyt about sports. Their opinion should be discounted. In the cases of all those other players you had named there were knowledgeable sports fans actually analyzing why those people didn't win and using logic and reason as opposed to just saying you suck for not winning. Melo's not getting special treatment from anyone. The nikkas that sit and watch ESPN all day are treating him just like the other players got treated. It's just that there's knowledgeable people in this thread, actually bothering to analyze the situation and explain why.

 

[FTBS]

And my point is it's not something to be ok with in the first place. The people that give all the credit or blame to an individual don't know shyt about sports. Their opinion should be discounted. In the cases of all those other players you had named there were knowledgeable sports fans actually analyzing why those people didn't win and using logic and reason as opposed to just saying you suck for not winning. Melo's not getting special treatment from anyone. The nikkas that sit and watch ESPN all day are treating him just like the other players got treated. It's just that there's knowledgeable people in this thread, actually bothering to analyze the situation and explain why.

Not true. Melo just started getting this treatment and it still nowhere near T-Mac and KG. You coudlnt' discuss T-Mac without hearing about the first round coming up. Melo's been treated more fairly than most. Bron has taken more heat for losses in the Finals and Conference Finals than this nikka has taken for 1st round exits. Dont' try to act like the majority of the discussion that takes place is logical and people go in depth in every situation. nikkas only go in depth when it comes to nikkas they like.

 

[intruder]

This Is Where The Dilemma Lies For The Melo Haters

They Wanna Say He's Not In A Certain Class Of NBA Talent When Assessing His Skill But They Wanna Put Him On A Pedestal WITH Those SAME NBA Talents When It Comes To Judging Him In A Negative Light

I don't think anyone can deny Melo's talent offensively. It's just that we have questions about his commitment to do all the other things it takes to win.

Seriously dude is like the Charles Barkley of our era: unlimited offensive skills minus the rebounds . But like Barkley defense is foreign to him.

When on defense he seems to just go with the flow. I'll admit i see some effort from him (unlike Amare) but he still needs a lot of improvement.

 

[obarth]

Not true. Melo just started getting this treatment and it still nowhere near T-Mac and KG. You coudlnt' discuss T-Mac without hearing about the first round coming up. Melo's been treated more fairly than most. Bron has taken more heat for losses in the Finals and Conference Finals than this nikka has taken for 1st round exits. Dont' try to act like the majority of the discussion that takes place is logical and people go in depth in every situation. nikkas only go in depth when it comes to nikkas they like.

I never said the majority of discussion is logical and indepth. It's actually the complete opposite cause the majority of people are stupid/too lazy to go beyond generalities.

Yeah, Melo's getting more hate recently...he just got to the Knicks. No one cares about Denver, regardless of if we're talking about sports or just life in general. The Knicks, and NY in general, are public enemy #1 in the media so they jumped on Melo once he came here.

T-Mac and KG might have gotten heat in convos in barbershops, but they weren't getting heat on national outlets or in the media like that at all. It really got brought up with T-Mac when he made his guarantee. The media loved KG in Minnesota. Plus, it's only really been recently where the attention span of the media has gotten so short where the no rings thing has gotten this intense. They didn't used to really talk about this stuff until around the latter part of an athlete's career and even then it was just in the sense of will he finally get a ring instead of "what the fukk is wrong with this guy, why doesn't he have a ring yet?". It's the same reason QBs get called trash after their rookie seasons now. Or asking if every little accomplishment or feat is the greatest ever. No attention span or patience.

 

[JMurder]

I'd like to reopen this conversation. This time I'm straight

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[nieman]

They pick and choose criteria based on the player. Melo doesn't play defense, but Dirk damn sure didn't play d and won an MVP. Melo hasn't been out of the 1st rd, but when KG wasn't getting out of the 1st rd, it was his teammates because KG is an all-time great. Ignoring that KG didn't have trash teammates. Melo is a ballstopper, but KD didn't pass much either, and was just as much as an isolation player. He doesn't make his teammates better....I repeat Dirk. He doesn't see the floor like Lebron...but Lebron sees the floor like very few. What about those Miami teams that Wade was on. the only credible teams MIA had was Wade rookie season with EJ, Odom & Caron Butler and Rasul Butler, Bryan Grant...the team with every vet you can name...Shaq, Zo, GP, Toine....and the trio. His teams didn't succeed, but KD's didn't until Westbrook emerged into the scoring threat that he is. You have Chris Paul's subpar Hornets teams, and no one really thinks Dwight is great do they? Oh yeah, lets not forget Paul Pierce. His teams do nothing with him being the leader. Those successful teams, Toine was the leader, Pierce was the leading scorer. Without Toine 20 Ws, Toine comes back and it's playoffs LOL

Nash is a 2x MVP for playing defense? Lebron is one of the greatest players in NBA history putting up stats that we have seen before and 1 ring. They just find any reason NOT to like Melo.

 

[JMurder]

They pick and choose criteria based on the player. Melo doesn't play defense, but Dirk damn sure didn't play d and won an MVP. Melo hasn't been out of the 1st rd, but when KG wasn't getting out of the 1st rd, it was his teammates because KG is an all-time great. Ignoring that KG didn't have trash teammates. Melo is a ballstopper, but KD didn't pass much either, and was just as much as an isolation player. He doesn't make his teammates better....I repeat Dirk. He doesn't see the floor like Lebron...but Lebron sees the floor like very few. What about those Miami teams that Wade was on. the only credible teams MIA had was Wade rookie season with EJ, Odom & Caron Butler and Rasul Butler, Bryan Grant...the team with every vet you can name...Shaq, Zo, GP, Toine....and the trio. His teams didn't succeed, but KD's didn't until Westbrook emerged into the scoring threat that he is. You have Chris Paul's subpar Hornets teams, and no one really thinks Dwight is great do they? Oh yeah, lets not forget Paul Pierce. His teams do nothing with him being the leader. Those successful teams, Toine was the leader, Pierce was the leading scorer. Without Toine 20 Ws, Toine comes back and it's playoffs LOL

Nash is a 2x MVP for playing defense? Lebron is one of the greatest players in NBA history putting up stats that we have seen before and 1 ring. They just find any reason NOT to like Melo.

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[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

They pick and choose criteria based on the player. Melo doesn't play defense, but Dirk damn sure didn't play d and won an MVP. Melo hasn't been out of the 1st rd, but when KG wasn't getting out of the 1st rd, it was his teammates because KG is an all-time great. Ignoring that KG didn't have trash teammates. Melo is a ballstopper, but KD didn't pass much either, and was just as much as an isolation player. He doesn't make his teammates better....I repeat Dirk. He doesn't see the floor like Lebron...but Lebron sees the floor like very few. What about those Miami teams that Wade was on. the only credible teams MIA had was Wade rookie season with EJ, Odom & Caron Butler and Rasul Butler, Bryan Grant...the team with every vet you can name...Shaq, Zo, GP, Toine....and the trio. His teams didn't succeed, but KD's didn't until Westbrook emerged into the scoring threat that he is. You have Chris Paul's subpar Hornets teams, and no one really thinks Dwight is great do they? Oh yeah, lets not forget Paul Pierce. His teams do nothing with him being the leader. Those successful teams, Toine was the leader, Pierce was the leading scorer. Without Toine 20 Ws, Toine comes back and it's playoffs LOL

Nash is a 2x MVP for playing defense? Lebron is one of the greatest players in NBA history putting up stats that we have seen before and 1 ring. They just find any reason NOT to like Melo.

5 star post!

Melo just having fun out there.

 

[OTC]

Melo is a ballstopper, but KD didn't pass much either, and was just as much as an isolation player. He doesn't make his teammates better....I repeat Dirk.

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