Bernie Sanders statement on Trump victory

[tru_m.a.c]

Do you agree with her on those points?

There were a lot of points stated in that article. Which one would you like to investigate further?

Again, unlike other folks, I'm very honest about my limited knowledge in certain areas.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

There were a lot of points stated in that article. Which one would you like to investigate further?

Again, unlike other folks, I'm very honest about my limited knowledge in certain areas.

As am i.

saying it's a “diversion from what our real focus needs to be. And that focus is on that Islamic extremist threat.” She criticized Obama for saying that “poverty, lack of access to jobs, lack of access to education” is contributing to radicalization. “They are not fueled by materialistic motivation, it's actually a theological, this radical Islamic ideology,”

Last month she openly mocked Secretary of State John Kerry during an appearance on CNN, saying that he thinks that, "if we give them [Islamic extremists] $10,000 and give them a nice place to live that somehow they're not going to be engaged in this fighting."To Gabbard, the idea that Syria and Iraq have been through years of brutal civil war, wrecked economies, and massive displacement is irrelevant; the only reason they have an extremism problem is because of Islamic theology.

I tend to agree with her on both.

 

[King Kreole]

But this is the dumb shyt your 15 year old ass doesn't get. You know what makes Bill, Hillary, and the rest of the neo-liberals pure shyt to progressives - IT'S BECAUSE THEY MADE DEALS WITH REPUBLICANS.

it's like you nikkas don't put 2 and 2 together. If a Democrat sells out the base to make a deal with the republican, you don't get to place the blame solely on the democrat.

@Hollywood Hogan had a great line about only democrats being told to pick between the lesser of two evils or not vote. The other undiscovered angle of this election is that only Democrats and the Democratic establishment suffered politically for the philosophy, principles, and legislative actions of the Republican party.

Didn't I already tag you in this shyt before?

Nice try, you stupid b*stard. You said NAFTA and TPP are Republican trade deals. Now you trying to course correct by talking about progressives and neoliberals because I caught you, but your initial post didn't say shyt about progressives or neoliberals, you said Republican. The Democratic Party is controlled by neoliberals. My entire point is that these trade deals and economic policies are pushed by both parties, so blaming one side when over 50% of the Democratic Senators and 40% of the Democratic Representatives voted in favour of NAFTA while the Democratic President was giving it a full throated endorsement is some ahistorical bullshyt pushed by revisionist Democratic stooges. Try again .

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Im w/ Bernie

Whatever he thinks is best. I'm sorry Bernie

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Nice try, you stupid b*stard. You said NAFTA and TPP are Republican trade deals. Now you trying to course correct by talking about progressives and neoliberals because I caught you, but your initial post didn't say shyt about progressives or neoliberals, you said Republican. The Democratic Party is controlled by neoliberals. My entire point is that these trade deals and economic policies are pushed by both parties, so blaming one side when over 50% of the Democratic Senators and 40% of the Democratic Representatives voted in favour of NAFTA while the Democratic President was giving it a full throated endorsement is some ahistorical bullshyt pushed by revisionist Democratic stooges. Try again .

The fukk are you talking about

LEARN SOME shyt BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ME AGAIN. God damn, it's like every time you try to address me I have to give you a fukkn history lesson. Every. Time.

Bill Clinton was certainly a supporter of NAFTA who pushed approval through Congress. But it was negotiated and signed by President George H.W. Bush. (Here’s a photo.) Moreover, more Republicans than Democrats voted for the deal, as the trade pact was vehemently opposed by labor unions. One key ally for Clinton was then-House Minority Whip (and later House speaker) Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), who is said to be on Trump’s list of possible running mates.

NAFTA was a successor to a free-trade pact with Canada. Bush had viewed NAFTA as a political opportunity, an achievement for his reelection campaign. He initialed the deal on Aug. 12, 1992, before the GOP convention, and then formally signed it in December 1992, after he had lost the election to Clinton.

Clinton had supported the pact during the presidential campaign but said he wanted to negotiate side agreements with Mexico concerning enforcement of labor and environmental laws. He didn’t pursue ratification in Congress till after those agreements were reached in August 1993 — but the deals were denounced by labor and environmental groups as too weak.

So Clinton did not negotiate NAFTA, nor did he sign it. But he did put his political prestige on the line to get it approved by Congress — even as two top Democrats, House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt (Mo.) and House Majority Whip David Bonior (Mich.), opposed it.
History lesson: More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA

 

[King Kreole]

The fukk are you talking about

LEARN SOME shyt BEFORE YOU SPEAK TO ME AGAIN. God damn, it's like every time you try to address me I have to give you a fukkn history lesson. Every. Time.

My god, I knew you'd take this #Hillset loss hard, but losing your ability to read? You have my condolences, breh.

Your fallacious claim: NAFTA and TPP are Republican trade deals
My counter-argument: These trade deals were bi-partisan efforts whose chief cheerleaders were Democratic Presidents
Your evidence: Over 50% of the Senate Dems and 40% of the House Dems voted for NAFTA, and "Bill Clinton was certainly a supporter of NAFTA who pushed approval through Congress..One key ally for Clinton was then-House Minority Whip (and later House speaker) Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.)"

It's been a long couple days for you, I don't think anyone would begrudge you if you...just...log off for a while.

P.S.
Elizabeth Warren offers Donald Trump an olive branch: “I offer to put aside our differences”
Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren vow to work with Trump

Still no common ground between the campaigns, huh?

 

[Regular_P]

Im w/ Bernie

Whatever he thinks is best. I'm sorry Bernie

There's hope for you yet.

 

[CHL]

Im w/ Bernie

Whatever he thinks is best. I'm sorry Bernie

 

[Regular_P]

Tulsi Gabbard is the one for them. Im a pretty firm believer in that. Id strongly consider voting for her..she rode the Bernie wave, has military credibility, is a minority (hindu i believe) and shes also very attractive . Shes got a strong social media presence and is on the right side of many issues. She even resigned from the DNC before Schultz because she thought it was rigged against Bernie. I cosign her

She's my early pick for the 2020 nom as well. Resigning from the DNC and throwing her support behind Bernie is gonna go a long way for her and help establish credibility with voters.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

She's my early pick for the 2020 nom as well. Resigning from the DNC and throwing her support behind Bernie is gonna go a long way for her and help establish credibility with voters.

Early pick for what nom? Not potus

 

[hashmander]

tulsi might actually be to the right of hillary on national security.

 

[duckbutta]

"Of billionaires not paying taxes"

How can people be tired of that when they voted one to run the country

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

"Let me be very clear. In my view, Democrats will not retain the White House, will not regain the Senate, will not gain the House and will not be successful in dozens of governor’s races unless we run a campaign which generates excitement and momentum and which produces a huge voter turnout.

With all due respect, and I do not mean to insult anyone here, that will not happen with politics as usual. The same old, same old will not be successful.

The people of our country understand that — given the collapse of the American middle class and the grotesque level of income and wealth inequality we are experiencing — we do not need more establishment politics or establishment economics.

We need a political movement which is prepared to take on the billionaire class and create a government which represents all Americans, and not just corporate America and wealthy campaign donors.

In other words, we need a movement which takes on the economic and political establishment, not one which is part of it."

~ Bernie Sanders August 28th, 2015

Which is the exact message that Trump used to win and both the Repubs and Dems attempted to undermine the only two candidates that was consistently conveying this message. So again, stop repeating the lie about "uneducated whites" or "poor whites" as the reason Trump won

No Obama himself cost these problems. She and Bill were racist towards him by numerous statements they made in 2008 campaign including making a joke how he could be assassinated just like Martin Luther King JR

Even after all this disrespect, Obama gave her a lifeline and gave her a job in his administration...to promise her after his 2nd term she would run...

All he had to do after she disrespected him was to not involve himself with her again. Hillary's career was supposed to be over and him reviving her like that caused these turn of events.....

But what is even funnier is as simple as this video is below, when you go deep into it this is what put the idea in Trump's head in the first place to run. We laugh cause of how silly it sounds that he ran because he was made fun of...but that is the reality



Barack could never guess that a day after that he would kill Osama...but then 5 years later find a new enemy

Stop it. The Clintons, Dem leadership, and liberal elites are solely to blame

Obama attempted to hire cabinet members with lots of experience and no lobby ties, but he had to abandon such a critieria cause the pool of qualified candidates didn't exist. That's how corrupt the system is

The Clinton crime family had too much influence over the Democrats, billionare doners, and media. He had to strike deals with these criminals inorder to secure access and counsel from very resourceful personnel

His initial message of change and hope was similar to Bernie and Trump's message of anti establishment, but the Repubs, Dems and their liberal elites had their own agenda

If it wasn't for the overwhelming support of the people, then Obama, Bernie, and Trump would've all been silenced

Look at the very deserved work Donna Brazile received from a DNC staffer. The Dems and Clintons could've done the right thing by supporting Bernie, but they chose to undermine him for their own benefit

“Why should we trust you as chair to lead us through this?” he asked, according to two people in the room. “You backed a flawed candidate, and your friend [former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz] plotted through this to support your own gain and yourself.”

DNC Staffer Screams At Donna Brazile For Helping Elect Donald Trump | The Huffington Post

 

[acri1]

Which is the exact message that Trump used to win and both the Repubs and Dems attempted to undermine the only two candidates that was consistently conveying this message. So again, stop repeating the lie about "uneducated whites" or "poor whites" as the reason Trump won




Stop it. The Clintons, Dem leadership, and liberal elites are solely to blame

Obama attempted to hire cabinet members with lots of experience and no lobby ties, but he had to abandon such a critieria cause the pool of qualified candidates didn't exist. That's how corrupt the system is

The Clinton crime family had too much influence over the Democrats, billionare doners, and media. He had to strike deals with these criminals inorder to secure access and counsel from very resourceful personnel

His initial message of change and hope was similar to Bernie and Trump's message of anti establishment, but the Repubs, Dems and their liberal elites had their own agenda

If it wasn't for the overwhelming support of the people, then Obama, Bernie, and Trump would've all been silenced

Look at the very deserved work Donna Brazile received from a DNC staffer. The Dems and Clintons could've done the right thing by supporting Bernie, but they chose to undermine him for their own benefit


DNC Staffer Screams At Donna Brazile For Helping Elect Donald Trump | The Huffington Post

Nah.

There's PLENTY of blame to go around as far as the Dem leadership, but let's be reality: This election was pretty much a repudiation of minorities and eight years under a black president. You literally have open bigots in the street celebrating Trump's victory so you're not convincing me that white resentment wasn't the main reason for Trump's victory. Minority kids getting harassed in schools. But I do agree that it's not just poor/uneducated whites that elected Trump, many of his supporters are doing just fine financially and poor whites were actually a little less likely to vote Republican.

Trump is a man who was born into wealth and power and has always been rich so you're not convincing me that he somehow relates with the average man. Not a chance. The problem is deeper than just Dem leadership.

 

[CASHAPP]

Which is the exact message that Trump used to win and both the Repubs and Dems attempted to undermine the only two candidates that was consistently conveying this message. So again, stop repeating the lie about "uneducated whites" or "poor whites" as the reason Trump won




Stop it. The Clintons, Dem leadership, and liberal elites are solely to blame

Obama attempted to hire cabinet members with lots of experience and no lobby ties, but he had to abandon such a critieria cause the pool of qualified candidates didn't exist. That's how corrupt the system is

The Clinton crime family had too much influence over the Democrats, billionare doners, and media. He had to strike deals with these criminals inorder to secure access and counsel from very resourceful personnel

His initial message of change and hope was similar to Bernie and Trump's message of anti establishment, but the Repubs, Dems and their liberal elites had their own agenda

If it wasn't for the overwhelming support of the people, then Obama, Bernie, and Trump would've all been silenced

Look at the very deserved work Donna Brazile received from a DNC staffer. The Dems and Clintons could've done the right thing by supporting Bernie, but they chose to undermine him for their own benefit


DNC Staffer Screams At Donna Brazile For Helping Elect Donald Trump | The Huffington Post

Stop it? what are you retarded? we all know what the clintons do/did. They are a machine. Im only strictly saying that minor reason ended up being a big reason why Trump ran...Remember that dinner was in 2011 which was also the same year he STARTED the birther bullshyt...then after being embarrassed at that dinner he started getting petty and constantly throughout the remaining year of Barack's first term and 2nd term he was always tweeting about him and criticizing him in the media.

Days before that dinner he had released his long form birth certificate. Trump was gonna finally shut up until he got humiliated days later like that so he held it as a grudge.

Im telling you straight facts and your telling me to stop it as if none of this is true. We know what the Clintons do/did already captain obvious. THe point im making is she likely would be running against someone different. Trump wanted to make it his goal to get Obama back, he is a very petty man. We remember the story of that journalist or whoever who said he told trump 20 years ago how he has small hands and every year since then annually he sends him letters/pics of his hands and says "see they are not small"(paraphrasing). This was verified but you find it hard to believe a man who is insecure about his hand size enough to mail someone letters every year would not also run for President because he got made fun of at a dinner?