Benny the Butcher x Harry Fraud - The Plugs I Met Vol -II (Discussion Thread)

[Edub]

3 songs in and I’m enjoying, shyt hard

 

[TheDarceKnight]

It’s funny tho because normally I’m underwhelmed mostly by his production but on this one I thought he really brought his A game

It's weird breh.

I don't think Fraud is objectively a super dope producer, but I enjoy a lot of his beats. Like, I don't think of him as a producer's producer or anything. He picks a lot of samples that have already been flipped a lot, and he re-flips them in the same ways. And a lot of times I think his drums sound cheap. But I still dig them. I wouldn't go as far as saying they're a guilty pleasure, but he does a lot of things that I think shouldn't work, and yet I enjoy it anyways.

OutRunners was one of my favorite productions of 2020.

 

[head shots101]

Definitely true, but I have to say that Conway's ability to A&R his projects to make them more well-rounded and more versatile is definitely improving.

IMHO Conway and Benny are meeting in the middle. Conway was the better emcee and Benny made the better projects. But in the past year or so, Conway has been improving the quality of his projects, and Benny has been improving the quality of his emceeing.

I only seen that with one project and that the Kings joint and that drop damn near last year .

 

[Wise]

First day cop for me, already copped TT3, A Friend of Ours, The Plugs I Met 1. Need it for my Butcher collection

As well as these too I guess:

• Married 2 Da Game: The Album(2011)
• Burden of Proof (2020)

Extended plays

• 17 Bullets (2016)
• Tommy Devito's Breakfast (with Cuns) (2017)
• FVR-001 (2019)

Mixtapes

• Tana Talk (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2004)
• B.E.N.N.Y. vs. Lil Wayne (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2007)
• The American D.Boy (as B.E.N.N.Y.)
• American D.Boy II: Lindsay Lohan (as B.E.N.N.Y.)
• American D.Boy III: Paris Hilton & Kate Moss (as B.E.N.N.Y.)
• American D.Boy IV: Amy Winehouse(as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2009)
• American D.Boy V (as. B.E.N.N.Y.)(2009)
• The Mayor's Back (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2009)
• Tana Talk 2 (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2009)
• Chains Bond (as 2 Chain Bennymane) (2009)
• Benny Montana (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2010)
• Married 2 Da Game: The Mixtape (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2011)
• The White House (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2012)
• Best Ever n' New York (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2013)
• B.E.N.N.Y. Best Ever (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2013)
• Black Soprano Family (as Benny)(2015)
• 1 on a 1 (2016)
• My First Brick (2016)
• Butcher on Steroids (2017)

Collaboration albums

• Stabbed & Shot (with 38 Spesh)

Collaboration mixtapes

• Best of the Underworld (as B.E.N.N.Y. with Johnal) (2006)
• Cocaine Cowboys (as B.E.N.N.Y. with .38 Special) (2009)
• Who Wants What (with Street Entertainment and DJ Kay Slay)(2009)
• Bang Bang (with Street Entertainment)
• The Pre-Season: Mixtape Series(with Buff City Music Group) (2012)
• Searchin' for a Purpose (with Black Soprano Family)
• Da Respected Sopranos (with Black Soprano Family and DJ Drama)(2020)

With Griselda

• WWCD (2019)

Collaborative EPs

• Statue of Limitations (with Smoke DZA) (2019)

Holy. Never realized he has that much material. I got into him at the first Plugs I met and just listened to Tana Talk 3 right after

 

[head shots101]

I don’t know, but I know Conway is dropping something on April 2nd.

So he say. Dude needs to get off the major

Benny stay true to his dates

 

[Wise]

Why nobody mentioning When Tony Met Sosa?

I keep rewinding that. Love the horns by Fraud on that one. That beat really stands out from the rest. I dunno why it keeps reminding me of the Cosby show lmao


"My heros in federal sweatsuits and New Balances"

"I pray for blockboys whose phones do 1500/Just to turn their shytty pumping into crispy hundreds"

I like it more than Burden of Proof

 

[Mr.Plan B]

Overall the best song on here

 

[Heavy_Handz]

100. I'm with you.

There's definitely some joints on God Don't Make Mistakes that have either scratch hooks, sample based hooks, or no hooks (Lock Load, Piano Love, You're The One, Cocaine Paradise, and John Woo Flick). I know he said he might get a female vocalist to sing a hook on the album's title track (it's on youtube wrongly titled as The Cow 2). The hook on Stress sounds dope. It reminds me of some old 50 Cent shyt.

Conway's hook game definitely ain't like Benny's. And sometimes when he does the 50 style half-singing on the hooks I like it (Serena Venus, Gold BBS's, and Everything But Jesus) and sometimes I don't like it (Lemon Squeeze, Trump, and Losses to Blessings)

I'd like to see Conway develop a hook game that doesn't involve the 50 style singing.

Yo that’s my main gripe with Conway is his hooks tbh. That Lemon Squeeze hook almost ruins it for me that shyt is terrible. He has some other wack hooks that ruin great songs. I just hope he switches that shyt up for this release. And I hope he drops it April 2nd

 

[Guvnor]

First day cop for me, already copped TT3, A Friend of Ours, The Plugs I Met 1. Need it for my Butcher collection

As well as these too I guess:

• Married 2 Da Game: The Album(2011)
• Burden of Proof (2020)

Extended plays

• 17 Bullets (2016)
• Tommy Devito's Breakfast (with Cuns) (2017)
• FVR-001 (2019)

Mixtapes

• Tana Talk (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2004)
• B.E.N.N.Y. vs. Lil Wayne (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2007)
• The American D.Boy (as B.E.N.N.Y.)
• American D.Boy II: Lindsay Lohan (as B.E.N.N.Y.)
• American D.Boy III: Paris Hilton & Kate Moss (as B.E.N.N.Y.)
• American D.Boy IV: Amy Winehouse(as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2009)
• American D.Boy V (as. B.E.N.N.Y.)(2009)
• The Mayor's Back (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2009)
• Tana Talk 2 (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2009)
• Chains Bond (as 2 Chain Bennymane) (2009)
• Benny Montana (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2010)
• Married 2 Da Game: The Mixtape (as B.E.N.N.Y.) (2011)
• The White House (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2012)
• Best Ever n' New York (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2013)
• B.E.N.N.Y. Best Ever (as B.E.N.N.Y.)(2013)
• Black Soprano Family (as Benny)(2015)
• 1 on a 1 (2016)
• My First Brick (2016)
• Butcher on Steroids (2017)

Collaboration albums

• Stabbed & Shot (with 38 Spesh)

Collaboration mixtapes

• Best of the Underworld (as B.E.N.N.Y. with Johnal) (2006)
• Cocaine Cowboys (as B.E.N.N.Y. with .38 Special) (2009)
• Who Wants What (with Street Entertainment and DJ Kay Slay)(2009)
• Bang Bang (with Street Entertainment)
• The Pre-Season: Mixtape Series(with Buff City Music Group) (2012)
• Searchin' for a Purpose (with Black Soprano Family)
• Da Respected Sopranos (with Black Soprano Family and DJ Drama)(2020)

With Griselda

• WWCD (2019)

Collaborative EPs

• Statue of Limitations (with Smoke DZA) (2019)

Honestly I never knew Bennys name stands for Best Ever N New York lol. That’s wild!

 

[Stone]

Overall the best song on here

Came in here to say exactly this

 

[Stone]

100. I'm with you.

There's definitely some joints on God Don't Make Mistakes that have either scratch hooks, sample based hooks, or no hooks (Lock Load, Piano Love, You're The One, Cocaine Paradise, and John Woo Flick). I know he said he might get a female vocalist to sing a hook on the album's title track (it's on youtube wrongly titled as The Cow 2). The hook on Stress sounds dope. It reminds me of some old 50 Cent shyt.

Conway's hook game definitely ain't like Benny's. And sometimes when he does the 50 style half-singing on the hooks I like it (Serena Venus, Gold BBS's, and Everything But Jesus) and sometimes I don't like it (Lemon Squeeze, Trump, and Losses to Blessings)

I'd like to see Conway develop a hook game that doesn't involve the 50 style singing.

What’s crazy is Reject 2 had some really good ones (Wraithful, Air holez, Salute me) but he just lost it for a bit after that.
Piano love and Luger are like the only ones that I’ve loved since

 

[pete clemenza]

This is mid. I like 3-4 cuts. Not impressed with some of the beats. Benny has to expand his subject matter badly. Verses are still dope in a sense but they're almost repackaged verses from Tana Talk, Plugs 1, and Burden of Proof. Add a story, a song about a fun night on the town, tell us about Buffalo a bit more in depth outside of the dope game, etc. Gotta move past the Pyrex talk on a few songs. Benny and Conway is neck to neck imo

 

[It's_Nade]

Fraud gives meyhem lauren all his real fire. This is

which projects?

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

When nikkas said they need less trappers and more poets
I kept talkin to hustlers that's more heroic
It's a difference when you rise out the ghetto, come back and grow it
The game broke my heart in three places, I never show it
Close my eyes and the voice in my eardrums tell me fore the Feds come
To turn these bread crumbs to a hedge fund

I just pressed play and Benny is already spittin that shyt

 

[waynep]

This is mid. I like 3-4 cuts. Not impressed with some of the beats. Benny has to expand his subject matter badly. Verses are still dope in a sense but they're almost repackaged verses from Tana Talk, Plugs 1, and Burden of Proof. Add a story, a song about a fun night on the town, tell us about Buffalo a bit more in depth outside of the dope game, etc. Gotta move past the Pyrex talk on a few songs. Benny and Conway is neck to neck imo

Well put