Benny the Butcher goes MAGA

[Piff Perkins]

And that is why people don’t vote in the first place.

Nina Turner when comparing Biden to Trump called it picking between a half a bowl of shyt and a full bowl of shyt. No matter which one you pick it’s still a bowl of shyt.

And what have we gained since Biden took office? Not a damn thing. It’s no different than Trump being in office honestly. Student loan debt relief, gone. Voting rights act didn’t even make it to the floor for a vote. Roe vs Wade abolished. No immigration reform. No healthcare reform. Lost the majority in the House of Representatives.

It’s just a never ended cycle of two parties gaining control and losing it. The only people who consistently benefit are rich people and corporations.

This is a wild argument to make given that we literally watched Trump stack federal courts with unqualified straight up racist, anti-black judges for four years. Biden reversing that tide with progressive/liberal judges (the most ever for a first term president) is reason alone to support him. Not to mention the other things that have been pointed out in this thread. People want to sound smart by acting blind. You bring up Roe v Wade being shytcanned as a negative for Biden, as if Trump didn't add the three Supreme Court justices to the bench who made it possible. Surely if you give a shyt about that issue (I'm guessing you don't) you would understand it's better that Biden/Generic Democrat select the next Supreme Court justices than Trump/Generic Republican.

This is a game, and whether you acknowledge it or not the ball is moving no matter who the president is - the question is how much you're getting hurt or helped by that movement. Having watched Trump actively work against the interests of black people, women, workers, etc for 4 years I find it disingenuous as fukk for someone to argue going back to that is fine because Biden isn't perfect. I'd argue Biden has gotten far more done than I assumed he would, and he's been bolder than I expected (Afghanistan, aggressive judge agenda, Chips Act/manufacturing jobs, etc).

I think most people recognize all this which is why voting participation rates have spiked over the last few years. In 2016 people were told it doesn't matter who wins so why support someone you dislike. Three right wing Supreme Court justices, a historically botched global pandemic response, and an economic collapse is what we got. Lot of people are not falling for the "both sides" shyt again.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

This is a wild argument to make given that we literally watched Trump stack federal courts with unqualified straight up racist, anti-black judges for four years. Biden reversing that tide with progressive/liberal judges (the most ever for a first term president) is reason alone to support him. Not to mention the other things that have been pointed out in this thread. People want to sound smart by acting blind. You bring up Roe v Wade being shytcanned as a negative for Biden, as if Trump didn't add the three Supreme Court justices to the bench who made it possible. Surely if you give a shyt about that issue (I'm guessing you don't) you would understand it's better that Biden/Generic Democrat select the next Supreme Court justices than Trump/Generic Republican.

This is a game, and whether you acknowledge it or not the ball is moving no matter who the president is - the question is how much you're getting hurt or helped by that movement. Having watched Trump actively work against the interests of black people, women, workers, etc for 4 years I find it disingenuous as fukk for someone to argue going back to that is fine because Biden isn't perfect. I'd argue Biden has gotten far more done than I assumed he would, and he's been bolder than I expected (Afghanistan, aggressive judge agenda, Chips Act/manufacturing jobs, etc).

I think most people recognize all this which is why voting participation rates have spiked over the last few years. In 2016 people were told it doesn't matter who wins so why support someone you dislike. Three right wing Supreme Court justices, a historically botched global pandemic response, and an economic collapse is what we got. Lot of people are not falling for the "both sides" shyt again.

No doubt. Regardless of what’s said here, signs indicate that voting participation is likely to be pretty damn high for 2024, and there’s more and more young people old enough to vote daily, and more and more elderly right wing voters dying off.

You nailed it with the ball is always moving. Things are either moving right or left. My frustration with centrists and democrats are that the ball doesn’t tangibly move as far left as I’d like, but at least they slow down the massive shifts right. I’ll vote to protect that until we have a true working class candidate.

But just allowing fascist or fascist adjacent folks like DeSantis or Trump to gain power because the Dems aren’t perfect is not something I’m comfortable doing.

 

[mobbinfms]

I’m convinced you are both CAC.

Playing checkers on a chess board


I probably know more about politics than both of you combined. Both of you are naive CAC trying to gaslight just for the hell of it.

Who is the both here? I only see three quotes from me?
I am white.
If you know more about politics than me (and I’m no expert) then show us all instead of speaking in vague generalities and making grandiose statements regarding your political acumen. You love Trump so much you’re starting to sound like him.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Who is the both here? I only see three quotes from me?
I am white.
If you know more about politics than me (and I’m no expert) then show us all instead of speaking in vague generalities and making grandiose statements regarding your political acumen. You love Trump so much you’re starting to sound like him.

I rest my case.

 

[THE 101]

A Neo Liberal Mobb Deep stan

 

[mobbinfms]

I rest my case.

Then you failed to meet your burden and lost.

 

[mobbinfms]

A Neo Liberal Mobb Deep stan

On what planet is anything I’ve said Neo liberal?

 

[Yecht]

Don't do Rick James like that

Didn't know he was from Buffalo. I'll give them that one

 

[AnonymityX1000]

On what planet is anything I’ve said Neo liberal?

All of it is. You even acted like a bunch of yahoos storming the capital was some coup attempt. lol

 

[mobbinfms]

All of it is. You even acted like a bunch of yahoos storming the capital was some coup attempt. lol

Define Neo Liberal then.
Also, are you saying that Trump didn’t attempt to stay in office, despite losing the election? If that’s not a coup attempt, what is?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Define Neo Liberal then.
Also, are you saying that Trump didn’t attempt to stay in office, despite losing the election? If that’s not a coup attempt, what is?

Basically Dem positions, capitalism reigning supreme, extremely high military spending while crying they don't have money for anything that actually helps people, pro trade agreements that fukk over workers, NATO, etc.
Just saying it was the weakest of attempts that had 0 chance of working. People storming the capital with no guns is going to take over a country with the most expensive military? It was dumb people believing a conspiracy from the internet and the government security allowing what happened to happen.

 

[duck]

Imo he just said that for shock value and attention . And he got it .

One of his griselda people, westside gunna , made like 10 mixtapes with hitler on the album covers ( hitler wears hermes) wtf is that?

 

[mobbinfms]

Basically Dem positions, capitalism reigning supreme, extremely high military spending while crying they don't have money for anything that actually helps people, pro trade agreements that fukk over workers, NATO, etc.

Some of these are Republican positions (capitalism reigning supreme, high military spending), not Democratic ones, but either way, I haven’t discussed any of these things in the thread, or really period, so where are you getting Neo Liberal from?

 

[Supa]

I don’t vote

Everybody Can't Vote

Seriously though I hope you're not in a red state talking that stance.

White supremacist shoot up innocent black people in your state? Vote for the man empowering them

 

[mobbinfms]

Just saying it was the weakest of attempts that had 0 chance of working. People storming the capital with no guns is going to take over a country with the most expensive military? It was dumb people believing a conspiracy from the internet and the government security allowing what happened to happen.

Are you under the impression that January 6th was about having the people who broke into the Capitol take on and defeat the military? Because it had nothing to do with that.