That ep is completely forgettable and ppl ate it up like it was top notch shyt just cuz they on the Benny bandwagon trying to shyt on the reject. I know what’s going on lol
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Ty-Fife
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Bro chillthis is all u been spewing. Plugs 2 sucked and burden of proof is forgettable so was la machina besides bruiser Brody. Conway hasn’t lost a step he dropped 2020 album of the year with from king to a god.
I got high hopes for both tt4 and gdmm. & Conway still the best in gxfr
lol not taking anything away from Benny because he is one of the top in the game and one of my top 3 in the game right now along with Conway & boldy but still...
Edit: add Gibbs in there as well
Facts. I always say the core Griselda crew got strengths and weaknesses. If we talk straight MC ability and straight up rapping, Conway wins, marketability Benny got it and as far as putting projects together Gunn got it.
I’m glad U understand man. They shyt on Conway like he didn’t make it cool to rap on dusty loops again the shyt that ppl like us love. They fail to realize without Conway none of this is possible. And Benny came thru after he got the lob too.
Ty-Fife
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I see it bro. FKTG, Lulu, Food 1, Blakk Tape and Reject 2 are top tier GxFR projects. nikkas fukked with them shyts heavy when they dropped but now nikkas act like they forgot lol.
FlyGod and Con's verse on The Cow are literally the reason for why they are where they are now.
Yea lol if it wasn’t for con and west/daringer, Benny would be making trap songs no cap. I remember the hate started once goat wasn’t the shady debut. I’m one of the few that likes goat even tho it wasn’t the album.
Ty-Fife
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Son, me too... But GOAT getting pushed back and then releasing on Soundcloud and tracks that was supposed to be on it getting scattered, made nikkas sour toward it, but it is what it is. I fukked with it heavy when it dropped. And you right bout Ben being on some trap shyt. That One On A One shyt came out right before he dropped 17 Bullets and My First Brick and that shyt was filled with generic trap shyt lol. If Gunn didn't officially put him down he would've stayed behind Spesh on TCF or making drill or some shyt
Heavy_Handz
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Man, y’all act like I’m not allowed to hold a strong opinion or some shyt? Y’all big up Conway every chance you get and when I do the same for Benny it’s like I hurt y’all feelings 
I just really fukk with Benny. He can Rap his fukkin ass off and makes great songs album after album. I just feel his projects are always more complete than Conway. Doesn’t mean I don’t rock with Con but I just be pointing out why I fukk with Benny on another level. Y’all talking like I’m ripping Conway to shreds like I ain’t mad I had to wait all this time for his fukking album 
And yes fukking with Conway put me on to Benny 
I just think Benny has improved so much that he elevated to a higher plane. Dude is just crazy skilled all around at this point 
I just really fukk with Benny. He can Rap his fukkin ass off and makes great songs album after album. I just feel his projects are always more complete than Conway. Doesn’t mean I don’t rock with Con but I just be pointing out why I fukk with Benny on another level. Y’all talking like I’m ripping Conway to shreds like I ain’t mad I had to wait all this time for his fukking album And yes fukking with Conway put me on to Benny I just think Benny has improved so much that he elevated to a higher plane. Dude is just crazy skilled all around at this point U go extra with it bro and i usually see you saying benny shyts on Conway wen that’s not the case. Everybody got an opinion and u have it but there’s never a time where u big up Benny without shytting on Conway. Lol u ain’t slickMan, y’all act like I’m not allowed to hold a strong opinion or some shyt? Y’all big up Conway every chance you get and when I do the same for Benny it’s like I hurt y’all feelings
Nothing but facts in this A+ posting. Dap + reppedSon, me too... But GOAT getting pushed back and then releasing on Soundcloud and tracks that was supposed to be on it getting scattered, made nikkas sour toward it, but it is what it is. I fukked with it heavy when it dropped. And you right bout Ben being on some trap shyt. That One On A One shyt came out right before he dropped 17 Bullets and My First Brick and that shyt was filled with generic trap shyt lol. If Gunn didn't officially put him down he would've stayed behind Spesh on TCF or making drill or some shyt
TheDarceKnight
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@Ty-Fife "Listen we built the whole Griselda house from our own hands, we did it from nothin. I mean, West owned the land but I did the construction."
@Xtz23 I've always held the theory that Benny was way more interested in rapping over mainstream production. He was into the trap shyt in the 2000's, and I always thought once Reject 2 and Flygod kind of popped off and got the team a little buzz, then he figured it would be stupid not to do that (and he was right) and then finished Tana Talk 3 with Daringer and Alchemist.
But as soon as he announced projects with Hit-Boy and Harry Fraud and stuff, it made sense to me immediately. I've always felt Benny personified more of the "I'm a hustler, not a rapper" persona, and rap is just what Benny is doing to elevate his life. I mean he's nice as fukk, I'm not hating whatsoever. Dude's one of my favorite rappers. But I don't think he's a music nerd. And Westside is more of a business guy.
Conway is the rapper's rapper of the bunch. That's why Conway wanted to sign with Eminem. All the super rapper dudes want to sign with Em. Look at Slaughterhouse. Conway just has a street angle to it, but he's a super rap nerd. And now that Boldy James and Rome Streetz are signed I feel like those 3 are the real rap nerds out of the crew. Both their voices can throw people, but those 2 dudes are truly emcee's emcees.
The huge irony is I think I like Benny the most out of all the Griselda cats on Daringer's beats, even though Conway and Daringer have the super brother from another mother relationship.
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Ty-Fife
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Son, I noticed this after going back and forth for pages with @Heavy_Handz tryna say Benny the reason Griselda got popular
It goes back to what I said, all 3 got strengths and weaknesses that balances them in a sense. But Heavy always try to throw darts at Conway outta love for Benny
TheDarceKnight
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I was one of the ones super let down by GOAT dropping on Soundcloud and missing joints it was supposed to have like 94 Ghost, Hell's Kitchen, Fork in the Pot, etc.Son, me too... But GOAT getting pushed back and then releasing on Soundcloud and tracks that was supposed to be on it getting scattered, made nikkas sour toward it, but it is what it is. I fukked with it heavy when it dropped. And you right bout Ben being on some trap shyt. That One On A One shyt came out right before he dropped 17 Bullets and My First Brick and that shyt was filled with generic trap shyt lol. If Gunn didn't officially put him down he would've stayed behind Spesh on TCF or making drill or some shyt
But now that some years have passed I think it aged pretty well and holds up. It's a trip reading people's opinions on it that only became fans in recent years and had no idea it was supposed to be the OG Shady debut, because they listened to it without any of the hype or expectations and most of them love it.
TheDarceKnight
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@Heavy_Handz is my dude on here, and it really does hurt sometimes when I see him go a little extra hard on Conway when he's bigging up Benny. I've absolutely noticed it a lot.Son, I noticed this after going back and forth for pages with @Heavy_Handz tryna say Benny the reason Griselda got popular
It goes back to what I said, all 3 got strengths and weaknesses that balances them in a sense. But Heavy always try to throw darts at Conway outta love for Benny
He went real hard on me last week for me making a comparison between Prodigy and Boldy James. And I'm only the thousandth person to do that, including mad producers that have worked a ton with both of them, and Alc makes it all the time. To Heavy's credit, he does fukk with Conway and I feel like he does it sometimes halfway because he knows it gets us to react like this
At the end of the day I do think he's a pretty big Griselda fan across the board, but obviously fukks with Benny the most.
TheDarceKnight
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Lol I don't know if Mach-Hommy re-signed to Griselda or not when he did PFH with West curating it, but no one hates anyone on The Coli more than @head shots101 hates Mach. It makes me laugh so much every time. He always gives him a fair shot every project too, and then is always likeIt goes back to what I said, all 3 got strengths and weaknesses that balances them in a sense. But Heavy always try to throw darts at Conway outta love for Benny
@head shots101 will probably live to be 120 with that much
for Mach. Huge Benny fan as well. 
Ty-Fife
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Die on Xmas ( which he murked Ben on
), Bullet Klub, Rodney Little, Xxxtras, Therd F, Arabian Sam's and Trump still in my workout playlist til this day and that's like literally half the album. But I could only imagine the OG version 