Bell Hooks and Melissa Harris Perry talk about Black Feminism...Coli, get in here

[marcuz]

Until then, I say "let them cake" and gorge themselves on it.

sad but true.

 

[QuintessentialBM]

sad but true.

I wish I could take credit for this but @mcdivit85 said that.....

 

[Will Ross]

Ayo, point out to where I've said that a woman can't choose who she wanna be with, because I have blatantly said that women PICK men.


What type of logic are u using? I NEVER said that the Obama can get a Rihanna, THAT WAS THE POINT.


As I said, i am going from MY OWN PERSONAL experiences, hence why I said PERSONALLY when I said that. What you see NYC ain't the same as what I see in DC. Or Denver. Or Atlanta.

Black men will have to be twice the man for a fine nonblack women to take notice. He will have to have some type of status for them to take note on a SERIOUS level. While at the same time she will lower her standards for her own men.That's the way it SHOULD be. That's why I see all these IR couples with the black partner being physically waaay above their cac partner.

Not true at all

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

That is bullshyt these girls know the good guys from the thugs. The thugs are just fun and the good guys are boring. And when your young p*ssy means so much to you that you will pretend to be a thug just to get some. And as black males we don't have the luxury of really playing around like that.

whether you think its bullshyt or not is irrelevant...its still the truth....

people do lots of things subconsciously and dont really know why...this is no different...people simply like what they like, and most have no idea why....you and me we're no different....UNTIL you/me/they become self-aware and make better choices and start living your life making conscious well-thought out decisions....

so yes they may know deep down these types of men are no-good...that doesnt change how drawn they are to them tho

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

Not true at all

Do tell.

 

[Will Ross]

Do tell.

The avg black man has a better chance with the good looking non black woman then he does with the good looking black woman.

 

[QuintessentialBM]

The avg black man has a better chance with the good looking non black woman then he does with the average looking black woman.

Fixed.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

You dudes are so self defeating. Work on your physique, work on your finances, and improve your social skills then see if you'll have any problem AT ALL with black women. fukk what they say, there's not a black woman on Earth who would refuse Barack Obama

Breh don't even waste your time. These nikkas want to desperately theyre problem with women is because all of them are man hating feminists and if they can get a white women finally someone will respect them.

Just let them cook

 

[Will Ross]

Breh don't even waste your time. These nikkas want to desperately theyre problem with women is because all of them are man hating feminists and if they can get a white women finally someone will respect them.

Just let them cook

Men that can't get women don't talk down on them they simp them. The men that hate the women the most are the men that get the most women.

 

[Ashley Banks]

For a group of dudes who claim to hate feminism, you guys sure do talk about it a lot.

 

[Lana Kane]

For a group of dudes who claim to hate feminism, you guys sure do talk about it a lot.

As if all women are feminists though

 

[kevm3]

black feminism and modern feminism aka neo-feminism are garbage philosophies used to destroy the family structure.

 

[The Coochie Assassin]

When it comes to the issue of "black feminism", my main issue with it is the direction of the grievances and finger pointing. It seems, from the glimpse that I have gotten of it through various sources, to simply be about trying to imitate the feminism created by white women. Where white women took their grievances regarding their place in the society to the people who controlled said society, their white male counterpart. And so, black women copy and paste the same thing and state their grievances to black men.

Here's the issue: black men don't control societal forces like white men, so the copy and paste tactic does not work. The issues that face women in this society, be those white or black, are created by the white male who controls the resources and access to those resources en masse. Seeing that many of the black women who are proponents of black feminism are intelligent and well-educated, I am sure they know this fact. But instead, they either want to play "pin the tale" on an already easy target, black men, or they're simply too afraid to directly challenge that white male power structure that is the TRUE cause of their issues.

Also, most black feminists know, whether they admit it or not, that white feminists don't care for their issues and will not take them to the table with their own. The reality is, white feminists have always used black women to gain numbers as a strategy and then got rid of them when not needed anymore. And since many black women know this, it becomes a quandry when trying to rally with white women against the white male power structure. Because even if you and a white woman are facing the same white patriarchy, that white woman will never side with you against her man. Theirs is a family dispute, yours is an outsider talking sh#t.

So, what does the black feminist do? Well, in her frustration, which afflicts so many black people, they turn inward. They blame black men for the same things that white women blame white men for KNOWING that the two situations are NOT the same. Why? Because them blaming black men is acceptable...there's even rewards and accolades for it. While blaming white men comes with consequences and repercussions (loss of job, loss of access to resources, etc). Black women, due their experience in this hemisphere, have learned who they can attack and who they cannot...through no fault of their own I might add.

Regardless of the quandry that black feminism faces, I careth not for their woes. I will not and do not support an ideology that directly challenges the importance, necessity and rightful place of the black man within society and especially the home. It is because I know why black feminists attack black men that I have no respect for them, their treachery or their plight. Furthermore, I will continue to lambaste and denigrate "black feminism" until I see consistent effort from black feminists and black feminists publications to bring their grievances to the rightful culprit, the white male power structure.

Until then, I say "let them cake" and gorge themselves on it.

Peace

Here's the quandry, does a white dude have to be George Bush-esque in order to receive submission from a white woman? Does a Mexican have to be Jose Calderon-esque to receive submission from a Mexican woman? I think you already know the answers. But just to blatantly point it out, no, they don't.

I can understand black men having to be two, three, even four times as good in the world to get the same thing that an equally-equipped white male would get. But having to do that in his own home? Among his own women? Playa, that's a very slippery slope. No other man has that burden of proof with his woman. If if we do have that burden of proof, then what does that say about the way we're viewed in our own home?

I'm not stating this because I am coming from a angry black man who hasn't been submitted to by black women. Quite the opposite. I've actually had no issue with black women submitting to me and being on some Stepford wife tip. Probably because I fit your statement of an Obama-esque guy who "from the bottom and now we here"-grew up on the wrong side of the tracks, went to college, worked jobs, now I'm in corporate world where I'm of a handful of 20-something black dudes in a sea of middle-class white dudes.

So, I understand what you're saying. But since I'm concerned about the state of my people, I look beyond just me and guys like me. What about the dude who's a plumber? What about the dude who's a construction worker? What about the dude who works two $10/hr jobs but works 14 hour days, 6 days a week so he can provide a nice lifestyle for his family? Don't they deserve submission from a black woman too?

Don't they deserve a hot plate waiting on the table after work? Don't they deserve their woman to treat them presidential even if he doesn't have the same status? Doesn't he deserve his woman to brag to her friends about "how hard Jerome works for his family"? Oh, but he's not Obama-esque, so he should get whatever he gets.

Let's be real here, a white dude doesn't have to be presidential to receive submissive behavior from a white woman. As long as he's handling his business, then he gets it mostly. And even with some of the same "black feminists" we're talking about, who would expect a black man to damn near give State of the Union address at the dinner table to justify her cooking, that white guy would get that same submissive behavior without him having to be Obama-esque or Bush-esque. The burden of proof is simply not there.

Peace

 

[I'm Billy FUCO!!]

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

@Juicy and @SouthernBelle dapping that nikka's posts when he makes absolutely no sense at all the hilarity of it all, just trying to be against me, for the sake of being against me.

At least dap someone who makes a convincing argument against my arguments, smh. It just make yall as ignorant and baseless as he is.