Bell Hooks and Melissa Harris Perry talk about Black Feminism...Coli, get in here

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Dude is the President of the most powerful country in the world, being a nice guy doesn't qualify you as an Obama type dude. Dude arose from nothing, went to one of the greatest Universities IN THE WORLD, and worked his way up to President of the United States of America. Any man with that type of ambition, work ethic, intelligence, and dedication WILL make something off himself. Rihanna is NOT turning down Barack Obama

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Look at her dating history to see the type of men she usually has.
 
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You should watch it when you get off and tell me what you think basically they talk about black women and their voices, their images and how they are presented with the white supremacy patriarchal system ... there was actually no black men bashing so i'm not sure which video these guys watched if any

they probably didnt watch it...

i think the prevailing opinion is that black feminists bash black men...and to be honest they do...sometimes...

i really dont see the point in black feminism...since their arguement is really with white men (the same as white women)..,..black men really hold little to no power on the images displayed of black women....yea there are a few high placed brothers that have a say...but essentially when you get to the top of the heap...theres a white man there.....

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Well it's hard to decipher who is the true black feminists and who are the "neo" black feminists. Alot of the black man hate rhetoric is started by Black feminists and they are extremely quiet when it comes to White men. Let a public figure Black man disrespect a Black woman, Black feminists will be at his neck. Let a public figure White man disrespect a Black woman, they say NOTHING NOTHING!!!!. Their articles, blogs, radio shows, any mass media production is targeted solely at Black men & White women.

THe only example I can think of was the Don Imus comments. The Rutgers basketball team and radio personas like TOm Joyner (or was it Michael Bastian?) stood out against that clown. I think Al Sharpton got in on it too.

The army of internet feminists were indeed quiet on that one. Along with the Scandal show which subliminally spits in the face of bw everywhere.
 
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THe only example I can think of was the Don Imus comments. The Rutgers basketball team and radio personas like TOm Joyner (or was it Michael Bastian?) stood out against that clown. I think Al Sharpton got in on it too.

The army of internet feminists were indeed quiet on that one. Along with the Scandal show which subliminally spits in the face of bw everywhere.


how so?
 

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man...girls like rhianna and barrack wouldnt even cross paths unless it was in class or something....
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Have you ever been to university setting with a lot of black people? I have, and let me tell you, the Obama types, nikkas that stay in class, talk eloquently, and have a good future, weren't being checked out by the fine sistas that have bodies of Rihannas or the looks of Beyonce. THey were going after the thugs who sit in the cafeteria and ween't even enrolled, or the jocks. Hence maybe why Obama, in his formidable years were only seen with white women. Hence why a lot of these young educated black men having "problems" per se of bw's choices of men when he was on the come-up, all to be turned down for the thugs and jocks who turned them out and ran through them.
 
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Have you ever been to university setting with a lot of black people? I have, and let me tell you, the Obama types, nikkas that stay in class, talk eloquently, and have a good future, weren't being checked out by the fine sistas that have bodies of Rihannas or the looks of Beyonce. THey were going after the thugs who sit in the cafeteria and ween't even enrolled, or the jocks. Hence maybe why Obama, in his formidable years were only seen with white women. Hence why a lot of these young educated black men having "problems" per se of bw's choices of men when he was on the come-up, all to be turned down by thugs and jocks who turned them out and ran through them.

How the hell did you attribute that quote to ME? :heh:
 

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When it comes to the issue of "black feminism", my main issue with it is the direction of the grievances and finger pointing. It seems, from the glimpse that I have gotten of it through various sources, to simply be about trying to imitate the feminism created by white women. Where white women took their grievances regarding their place in the society to the people who controlled said society, their white male counterpart. And so, black women copy and paste the same thing and state their grievances to black men.

Here's the issue: black men don't control societal forces like white men, so the copy and paste tactic does not work. The issues that face women in this society, be those white or black, are created by the white male who controls the resources and access to those resources en masse. Seeing that many of the black women who are proponents of black feminism are intelligent and well-educated, I am sure they know this fact. But instead, they either want to play "pin the tale" on an already easy target, black men, or they're simply too afraid to directly challenge that white male power structure that is the TRUE cause of their issues.

Also, most black feminists know, whether they admit it or not, that white feminists don't care for their issues and will not take them to the table with their own. The reality is, white feminists have always used black women to gain numbers as a strategy and then got rid of them when not needed anymore. And since many black women know this, it becomes a quandry when trying to rally with white women against the white male power structure. Because even if you and a white woman are facing the same white patriarchy, that white woman will never side with you against her man. Theirs is a family dispute, yours is an outsider talking sh#t.

So, what does the black feminist do? Well, in her frustration, which afflicts so many black people, they turn inward. They blame black men for the same things that white women blame white men for KNOWING that the two situations are NOT the same. Why? Because them blaming black men is acceptable...there's even rewards and accolades for it. While blaming white men comes with consequences and repercussions (loss of job, loss of access to resources, etc). Black women, due their experience in this hemisphere, have learned who they can attack and who they cannot...through no fault of their own I might add.

Regardless of the quandry that black feminism faces, I careth not for their woes. I will not and do not support an ideology that directly challenges the importance, necessity and rightful place of the black man within society and especially the home. It is because I know why black feminists attack black men that I have no respect for them, their treachery or their plight. Furthermore, I will continue to lambaste and denigrate "black feminism" until I see consistent effort from black feminists and black feminists publications to bring their grievances to the rightful culprit, the white male power structure.

Until then, I say "let them cake" and gorge themselves on it.

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Race aside, by portraying an image of a home wrecking whore for one thing. Sleeping with a married man is NOT a positive image for black women, no matter WHO the man is.

Especially since a lot of black women claim to be Christians, which goes against their Christian values.
 
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