Because of Remote Working Tech Workers Consider Escaping Silicon Valley’s Sky-High Rents

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Should pay them less, too. Can't expect to get paid Silicon Valley money and you working remotely from Texas.
fukk that.

their location has no bearing on the company. In fact the company is already saving millions in office space. You taking the side of these behemoth company’s with extreme wealth paying people less is interesting. This country does not need a bigger piece of the pie going to the 1%
 

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Tech Workers Consider Escaping Silicon Valley’s Sky-High Rents

After major companies announce their employees won’t need to come in, many are recalculating the cost of living near the office.

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Sarah Frier
May 14, 2020, 5:30 AM EDT
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Sachin Dhar thought he and his fiancée had a great deal paying $2,650 per month for a one-bedroom rental in South San Francisco, a short commute from Facebook Inc.’s offices in Menlo Park, where she works. But when the social networking company announced that most employees would be working from home until the end of the year, their calculation changed. “It makes no sense paying Bay Area rent if we can earn our salary living elsewhere,” says Dhar, 25, who already works remotely for a New York advertising startup. They’re considering moving to Hawaii—or, to really save money, somewhere in the rural U.S.



Dylan Hecklau is thinking along the same lines. His ad-tech employer, Jelli Inc., was dubious about letting people work from home before the pandemic hit. Now that employees have proven productive, its attitude has changed. Hecklau, 32, is planning to take the money he would have spent on a Lake Tahoe vacation home and make a down payment on a permanent home in Sacramento, abandoning his $3,200-a-month rental in San Francisco. “With nothing keeping me here, I can’t justify paying the rent prices,” he says.



With some of the highest rents in the world, the Bay Area has been dealing with an affordability crisis for years. The region saw 5.4 new jobs for every unit of housing built from 2011 to 2017, according to Bloomberg calculations of U.S. census data. The entire state is expensive, with the median price for a house exceeding $600,000, more than double the national level. In Silicon Valley that means most workers have been renting—and are therefore able to pick up and move

Both Facebook and Google have announced that most people won’t need to come in this year, and Twitter Inc. has told some workers that if they wish to work from home permanently, they can. Employees are now considering the thousands of dollars they could save living somewhere else—maybe even permanently. Urban parents of young children suddenly find themselves coveting backyards and playrooms in larger homes that would be affordable on a tech salary pretty much anywhere except the Bay Area.



Some employees, expecting years of rolling shelter-in-place orders, are making long-term life decisions now. And they have a lot of housing options, given that the starting salary for a software engineer at Facebook and Google exceeds six figures, according to Glassdoor data.

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Facebook headquarters in Menlo Park, Calif.
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Christy Lake, chief people officer at San Francisco-based Twilio Inc., says several employees have already approached their managers and HR representatives to discuss plans to relocate. The cloud communications company expects more than 20% of its office-based employees will transition to working remotely in the long term. “It’s percolating big-time,” Lake says. She expects the company will have to come up with formal policies and maybe offer a relocation bonus to employees who decide to make the jump.

But the trend raises complicated questions. If employees move to a less expensive location, should Twilio adjust their salaries accordingly? “It’s probably not great business practice to pay Bay Area comps in Michigan,” Lake says. And when it comes time to promote, would those employees have the same opportunity to advance as everybody else? “We need to think proactively,” she says.



Even though the tech industry builds the tools to help people work remotely and connect online, it’s notoriouslyoffice-centric. Facebook, Google, Apple, and others have built sprawling campuses with catered lunches, gyms, bike-share programs, and even laundry services. The campuses are so central to their culture that companies will pay for Wi-Fi-equipped commuter shuttles for employees living two hours away.


Whether tech employees will actually start to leave the Valley for the rural countryside remains to be seen, and there are drawbacks to dialing in remotely on a permanent basis. In 2013, Yahoo Inc. decided its lax policies on working from home had prevented it from innovating and required everyone to come back to the office. But workplaces won’t be the same, even early next year. It may not be safe to gather dozens of employees in the same shuttle bus, serve them food with the same utensils, or sponsor off-site gatherings and holiday parties. “Once the reality takes hold, why would we live in SF?” Hecklau asks.

But his Sacramento plan isn’t foolproof. Just as people can work from anywhere, employers can hire from anywhere. “The talent pool gets massive,” he says. “Why would my employer pay me SF wages?”

Read more: If Landlords Get Wiped Out, Wall Street Wins, Not Renters

BOTTOM LINE - The pandemic is leading many tech employees to consider working from home permanently, so they can escape California’s sky-high rents for less expensive digs elsewhere.

they create a problem and want to run from it.

it was all good when they were pricing out locals until it got to hot even for them.
 

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The governor of Connecticut is saying that commuting into NYC for work may be a thing of the past.

That would really hurt NYC. The city will still survive. There's still colleges and universities, the arts, movie and TV production. But with Silicon Valley and Wall Street alone, just think of all the businesses that rely on those employees spending their money. Even the buildings that rely on that rent money.

Connecticut Governor Says Days of Commuting to NYC May End
 
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Surprised this hasn’t already been a thing. With Zoom, VPN, why the fukk you need to be in an office if you’re just writing code all day???
 

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Surprised this hasn’t already been a thing. With Zoom, VPN, why the fukk you need to be in an office if you’re just writing code all day???

If you work in Tech, sure. If you work in Finance, Media, etc. face to face interaction is necessary at times especially Finance where something as personal as money is being discussed and plotted on.
 

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This been the cheat code for a lot of cats in Tech. Get the job and hight cost of living salary then move after a year to a cheaper spot down south while keeping the same salary
 

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fukk that.

their location has no bearing on the company. In fact the company is already saving millions in office space. You taking the side of these behemoth company’s with extreme wealth paying people less is interesting. This country does not need a bigger piece of the pie going to the 1%

There are several companies that pay the salary for the position irrespective of the location.

Again are companies interested in value delivery or cheapskating.?.....if they are so worried about stiffing an employee who delivers value then they can find someone outside the US who would work for half to a third of the salary.

I suspect there is a subset of people who take pride in paying exorbitant rent and living in high COL living places :mjlol::mjlol:
 

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Yeah, but if these companies shift to mostly remote permanently, they won't be paying SF money in the future to someone they hire out of Chattanooga, or Hyderabad.
Perhaps. I don't know what will happen, because there will still be competition. If an SF company can make enough profit off of a 150k salary worker they will still spend that much to attract talent away from other companies. But if the pool is open now to people who can't afford to live in SF supply might outstrip demand and drive wages down.
 
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