A lot of you have the mentality of little kids and that's why you don't understand certain things. Jay Z didn't have to "battle" Kiss because he sonned Kiss without saying a word to him directly. He big boy'd Kiss on 2 remixes during that time. People don't even know that Kiss was on Mya's Best of Me and Kelly's Fiesta because Jay Z made people forget. He didn't duck Kiss anyway, he just got at him subliminally. Go back and listen to Heart of the City.Nah bruh. Nyggaz be givin Hov too much credit. For real. If Jay was that ill on disses then why was he so shook to diss Kiss? He turned into a church mouse. Seriously fam. And I'm 1 of jayz biggest supporters, but Jay came out of this battle looking shook and soft.
hippocrite! Be real my nyggz. Jay wants people to directly diss him but he stayed subliminally sneak diss Kiss. U can't have it both ways
Explain how I have the mntality of a little kid for simply pointing out that Jay Z did not want to directly get at Jada? I'll wait......Your post illistrates your childish mentality. Youre talking about people being shook and all of that, youre not thinking like an adult. It's not just you, it's fans in general. I don't see too many posters here who think beyond a little kid level. Seriously, do you really think that Jay Z was "scared" of Jadakiss? Is that really the best explanation that you can come up with for why he never directly "battled" Kiss?
u can't "son" someone without dissing them directly. This is exactly what I was talkin about. Nygaz give Jay too much credit and treat every word he says as gospel.. I just explained how he sonned Kiss without dissing him. Did you not understand what I said? Are you not familiar with the songs that I referenced? Which one? This isn't about me giving Jay Z too much credit or anything that he has said, I just made an observation. He big boy'd Kiss on 2 hit songs during the time of the Rocafella-Ruff Ryder tension. Kiss was on both of those joints 1st only for Jay Z to hop on them and make people forget all about Kiss.
u keep giving Jay credit for sneak dissin. If Hov is such a boss/such a factor. Why not go at kiss like he did Nas or prodigy? Bcuz Kiss would hav ate up Jay.. again I am 1 of jayz biggest supporters. And please don't conviently forget about Ayz's infamous line "if it ain't Directly directed at me,then I don't respect it. Jay is a total
Explain how I have the mntality of a little kid for simply pointing out that Jay Z did not want to directly get at Jada? I'll wait......u can't "son" someone without dissing them directly. This is exactly what I was talkin about. Nygaz give Jay too much credit and treat every word he says as gospel.. u keep giving Jay credit for sneak dissin. If Hov is such a boss/such a factor. Why not go at kiss like he did Nas or prodigy? Bcuz Kiss would hav ate up Jay.. again I am 1 of jayz biggest supporters. And please don't conviently forget about Ayz's infamous line "if it ain't Directly directed at me,then I don't respect it. Jay is a total
Jay Z hasn't pulled anything over my eyes, my post just hurts your feelings for whatever reason. Get some self esteem and your feelings wont be hurt by an opposing opinion or point of view.
if anything, youre the one with the little kids mentality, the way jay easily pulled the whooly over your head.
You can say whatever you want to say, but it just sounds as if you're saying whatever because your feelings are hurt. "since you wanna take it there" I'm just talking man, expressing my thoughts. I have a very good understanding of battling and rap, I doubt you do though.
How is the remix thing overblown when I barely hear anyone mention it? Jay Z outshined Kiss on 2 remixes at that time, he made people forget Kiss's versions of those records. Those are simply the facts. You can try to spin those facts all you want.
It was only a matter of time before you told on yourself. First thing you did was talk about how other people don't understand battling or rap in general, yet here you are consigning Cam's fake rap beef stunt, trying to pass it off as a real battle. You clearly have an anti-Jay Z agenda here, you aren't being objective. Cam wasn't trying to engage in a mc-battle with Jay Z, he was trying to initiate a rap "beef" with Jay Z in hopes the controversy would benefit him and his career. Anybody with common sense knows that and that includes Jay Z. Since you have an agenda, you ignore the logic and reasoning behind Jay Z refusing to play along with Cam's stunt to imply that he was scared of Cam. Seriously, fans like you are no different than boxing fans who question Mayweather's courage because he hasn't fought everyone that they've wanted him to when they wanted him to. Put your personal bias aside and look at things like an adult instead of a fanboy or a hater.
lol. and what about the "if you got beef with jigga, say my name" line.
camron dug in the crates, picked that line up and threw it back in jay's face. another battle that jay wanted no parts of.
Translationlol @ your post "hurting my feelings".
and yes, i took it there because we were having a civil discussion until you rode in here throwing shots and talking all high & mighty about something that you dont even know about.
i dont care about your opinions or point of view because your point of view is skewed and you sound like an outsider. it reaks all throughout your posts. i dont even know why youre trying to poke your nose in such a thread. you seem like youre more suited for a kanye/kim kardashian/drake/big sean thread or something.
So what?
First you said that Jay Z wanted no parts of a battle with Cam, now you're saying that Jay Z started the battle with Cam. Which is it? I was aware that there was tension for years but when did Jay Z start it? I remember Cam trying to use the Dame split as an excuse to go at him. I remember him having a press conference trying to explain himself. If you actually know what you're talking about then why are you lying? Why are you denying that it was stunt by Cam? Either you're bias, plain ignorant, or both. I choose C.lol. cam didnt even start the battle with jay. the one that set it off was jay-z so how was camron looking for attention? keep it 100, youre a commercial dude trying to get his feet wet in a thread like this, and youre out of place.
i have no personal bias. im just telling it like it is. you have JAY-Z FANS in here telling you what it is. this just isnt the music for you buddy.
