Batman 89 will go down as the bigger classic than TDK

[Kill Dat Noize]

This isn't true at all. Batman's "rebirth" to mainstream media and pop culture is all from The Dark Knight Returns that came out 3 years prior to Batman 89

in 1989 which number do you believe was greater, the amount of people that had read dark knight returns or the amount of people that had gone to see batman in theaters.

 

[The Order 1886]

in 1989 which number do you believe was greater, the amount of people that had read dark knight returns or the amount of people that had gone to see batman in theaters.

>The immense popularity of The Dark Knight Returns served both to return the character of Batman to a central role in pop culture, but also (along with Watchmen) started the era known as the Dark Age of Comic Books (also known as the Modern Age and the Iron Age). The grim, seedy versions of Gotham and Batman successfully updated the character's identity from the campy Adam West version remembered from the 1960s Batman TV Series, which proved critically and commercially successful enough that a new wave of 'dark' superheroes were either created, repopularized, or revamped altogether to fit this new trend.

>Along with Batman: The Killing Joke, Tim Burton has cited The Dark Knight Returns as an influence in his first film adaptation of Batman (Batman 89')

PLEASE SIT ALL THE WAY THE fukk DOWN

 

[Lefty Gunz]

This isn't true at all. Batman's "rebirth" to mainstream media and pop culture is all from The Dark Knight Returns that came out 3 years prior to Batman 89

How many people you think who's seen Batman 89 has read the Dark Knight Returns

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

>The immense popularity of The Dark Knight Returns served both to return the character of Batman to a central role in pop culture, but also (along with Watchmen) started the era known as the Dark Age of Comic Books (also known as the Modern Age and the Iron Age). The grim, seedy versions of Gotham and Batman successfully updated the character's identity from the campy Adam West version remembered from the 1960s Batman TV Series, which proved critically and commercially successful enough that a new wave of 'dark' superheroes were either created, repopularized, or revamped altogether to fit this new trend.

>Along with Batman: The Killing Joke, Tim Burton has cited The Dark Knight Returns as an influence in his first film adaptation of Batman (Batman 89')

PLEASE SIT ALL THE WAY THE fukk DOWN

i did not argue it's cultural influence and it's role in shaping the character. i'm arguing that it was just a comic book and it paled in comparison to the success of the burton movie.

 

[The Order 1886]

How many people you think who's seen Batman 89 has read the Dark Knight Returns

lmao at this idiotic response

 

[The Order 1886]

i did not argue it's cultural influence and it's role in shaping the character. i'm arguing that it was just a comic book and it paled in comparison to the success of the burton movie.

now your altering your original statement/argument

that comic rebirthed batman into pop culture/ mainstream media, that is a fact

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

now your altering your original statement/argument

that the comic rebirthed batman into pop culture/ mainstream media, that is a fact

since when were comics mainstream media?

who outside of geeks and little kids read comics in the 80's.

 

[The Order 1886]

since when were comics mainstream media?

who outside of geeks and little kids read comics in the 80's.

you can't be this stupid, can you?

 

[Lefty Gunz]

lmao at this idiotic response

Nothing idiotic about it. Comic book readers are a small minority of people who actually enjoy comic book movies. Batman 89 rejuvenated batman as a brand. Before it, when people thought Batman they thought the campy Adam West tv show. It was the reason they didn't even want to make a batman movie cause they thought nobody would want to go see a movie based off a tv show in the 60s

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

you can't be this stupid, can you?

how many copies did it sell in 1986? Is there any way to look that up?

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

also Batman Returns > Batman 89.

 

[The Order 1886]

how many copies did it sell in 1986? Is there any way to look that up?

Your argument is that the movie "rejuvenated the character's popularity in modern day culture" not "what did better, the movie of the comic?"
Your original argument was false, it doesn't matter which was more successful. What does matter is that batman was already popular before Burton's film

skip to 3:00 mark

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

that is not mainstream media. the collective citizens of planet earth weren't up on comics and they weren't up on no dark knight returns. you are behaving as if that book was at the forefront of everyone's collective consciousness.

do me a favor and pull up google images of all the dark knight returns related merchandise leading up to 1989. i take it there should be several pages worth?

 

[The Order 1886]

that is not mainstream media. the collective citizens of planet earth weren't up on comics and they weren't up on no dark knight returns. you are behaving as if that book was at the forefront of everyone's collective consciousness.

do me a favor and pull up google images of all the dark knight returns related merchandise leading up to 1989. i take it there should be several pages worth?

Comic books were extremely relevant in the 80s, the fact that Burton was inspired by Miller's novel should be evidence of that. Look at any wiki page/documentary of batman and they will say comics in the 80s were relevant on a mainstream level.

"comic book characters generally became darker and more psychologically complex, creators became better-known and active in changing the industry, independent comics flourished, and larger publishing houses became more commercialized."

you point that the movie was more successful than the comic issues literally doesn't apply to the argument

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

Comic books were extremely relevant in the 80s, the fact that Burton was inspired by Miller's novel should be evidence of that. Look at any wiki page/documentary of batman and they will say comics in the 80s were relevant on a mainstream level.

"comic book characters generally became darker and more psychologically complex, creators became better-known and active in changing the industry, independent comics flourished, and larger publishing houses became more commercialized."

you point that the movie was more successful than the comic issues literally doesn't apply to the argument

i wanna see the number of copies sold.