Batman 89 will go down as the bigger classic than TDK

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I'm not saying it wasn't big, I'm just saying TDK was bigger and you can debate which movie is better and all that but you gotta be on dust thinking Batman 89 was in any way bigger then The Dark Knight in terms of audience love, hype, marketing, awards, box office and such.

I'd disagree breh. Batman was the bigger movie just in terms of spectacle and the fact that the world was a different place in terms of media landscape in 89 vs 2008. I'm not arguing that Batman is the better flick, it's not, but in terms of sheer impact, event status, creating a cultural movement, and really changing the landscape not just of comic book films but films in general, I'm giving it to Batman.
 

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What does't Heth's death have to do with TDK's greatness??? If he was still alive the movie would have still been great and he would have probably been great again in TDKR. His death didn't change his great performance in anyway. Ya'll nikkaz reaching.
 

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I'd disagree breh. Batman was the bigger movie just in terms of spectacle and the fact that the world was a different place in terms of media landscape in 89 vs 2008. I'm not arguing that Batman is the better flick, it's not, but in terms of sheer impact, event status, creating a cultural movement, and really changing the landscape not just of comic book films but films in general, I'm giving it to Batman.

You are too much for me @MartyMcFly , you sonofawhoreson bytch! I wish I knew how to quit you :mjcry:
 

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What does't Heth's death have to do with TDK's greatness??? If he was still alive the movie would have still been great and he would have probably been great again in TDKR. His death didn't change his great performance in anyway. Ya'll nikkaz reaching.

People are talking from a marketing point his death did wonders for the movie.
 

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You do realized Worldwide Markets have expanded in 20 years? The bottom line "Batman 89" in it's time period was JUST AS POPULAR as "The Dark Knight" was.

Yeah thanks for proving my point :russ:
 

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People are talking from a marketing point his death did wonders for the movie.
The movie was still hyped before he died. Batman Begin started the new Batman craze. People are acting like the craze started with TDK and Heth's death when everyone already was hyped for the sequel before he died. If anything, his death got him the Oscar nom. But that's about it. TDK would have still been just as great and record breaking had he been still alive.
 

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*waits for someone to post that worldwide gross doesn't count*


Batman 89 Worldwide Grosses
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $251,188,924 61.1%
+ Foreign: $160,160,000 38.9%
= Worldwide: $411,348,924

In 1989 THIS WAS THE HIGHEST GROSSING COMIC FILM OF ALL TIME. IT HELD THE RECORD FOR 12 YEARS UNTIL "Spider man" Dropped. "The Dark Knight" only held it's record for 4 years when "The Avengers" beat the dog crap out of it.
 

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You are too much for me @MartyMcFly , you sonofawhoreson bytch! I wish I knew how to quit you :mjcry:

:deadrose: love you too breh.

again I'm not saying Dark Knight wasn't huge, clearly it was...I remember the lines at the theater on opening night and the continued lines, but Batman was the Jaws or Star Wars of its time and the media landscape at the time helped it become that. Because of that movie, you get batman insignias etched in heads, tattoos, billboards, piggy banks, toys (of which I had most of) and even freaking batman cereal (which was terrible). The movie created the basic marketing campaign that movies still follow to this day, like how is that not impact and landmark status? We're not talking quality, we're not talking numbers because if we were, Gone with the Wind when adjusted for inflation, is still the single biggest movie of all time, but if we're talking cultural impact? It's batman in the same way Jaws and Star Wars did even though I'd argue those two films are bigger and had more of an impact but still
 

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:deadrose: love you too breh.

again I'm not saying Dark Knight wasn't huge, clearly it was...I remember the lines at the theater on opening night and the continued lines, but Batman was the Jaws or Star Wars of its time and the media landscape at the time helped it become that. Because of that movie, you get batman insignias etched in heads, tattoos, billboards, piggy banks, toys (of which I had most of) and even freaking batman cereal (which was terrible). The movie created the basic marketing campaign that movies still follow to this day, like how is that not impact and landmark status? We're not talking quality, we're not talking numbers because if we were, Gone with the Wind when adjusted for inflation, is still the single biggest movie of all time, but if we're talking cultural impact? It's batman in the same way Jaws and Star Wars did even though I'd argue those two films are bigger and had more of an impact but still

I've never said that, point is only that I think that TDK had bigger impact both for the public and filmmakers (and I think that counts alot)
 

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I've never said that, point is only that I think that TDK had bigger impact both for the public and filmmakers (and I think that counts alot)

I agree with you on the filmmakers definitely. On the public I'm siding with Batman though. But Dark Knight inspired a whole generation of filmmakers to step it up
 

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Batman Begins is a landmark film just as much as Batman 89. It paved the way for more darker super hero movies like Man of Steel, Captain America and all those new super hero movies coming out that will most likely have a darker story like Nolans films. Also, BB redefined what an origin story is. The new Xmen movies seem to have taken a page out of his book too.
 
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