Ballers Wanna Ball, Rollers Wanna Roll, But We're Taking All--The Official 2017-2018 Lakers Thread

[Dwight Howard]

You can't say he's playing with scrubs then trying to say his stats are impressive instead of inflated.

you can play with scrubs and put up impressive stats. the inflation argument is dumb considering he's more efficient than ever. yes he's putting up more shots but hes making more as well

 

[King Biko]

@O.T.I.S. i never said dlo was any kinda all star. I just said in back to back post that the nikka go a ways to go himself.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Like i said the over compensate statement wasn't about you. And no i haven't seen zo just take over a game. Ive seen his affect and like you aaid change a game but him just taking over no i haven't. And ive watched alot of him. Nothing against lonzo tho very few players do that and dlo can but hes inconsistent af. I do like zo tho and im excited to see where hes going to go but he gotta find a way 2 be affective when the game slows down. Hes got good athletism but its like you don't even see it once the game slows down. He really needs to improve as a ball handler also. Its rare that you see him beat his man off the dribble or with the first step.

I dap you because you might not be completely correct with some things due to your Dlo bias, but you make some good points.

First, Zo can get by his man.. He just is a downhill player. His fav player is Lebron and despite not being the athlete Lebron is, one of Lebrons biggest critiques was his lack of halfcourt game and ballhandling. He got away with it because of his athleticisim.

Zo CAN get by his man he just doesn't always do it or is aggressive enough in 1v1 situations. Its not his style but I agree... He could use some ball handling help to help him break down defenders 1v1 when they cut the lane off for him.

Which is when Kobe told him "how is your post up game" that was real.. Tbh, at his size, Zo could actually be effective in the post in halfcourt nikkas just don't put him in the situation often.

Dlo is more of a 1v1 player than Zo will ever be but it means nothing imo. Zo cares about winning and once he realizes that he needs to get just his EASY buckets to fall then things will become easier for him... WINS will become easier for the Lakers.

The same can not be said for Dlo.

We're 5-7 with the 4th toughest schedule in the league so far with Zo having the worst shooting year of his life and a bunch of pieces just being instilled. That should say a lot more about him, the trade, and the culture of our team.

 

[KOBE]

you can play with scrubs and put up impressive stats. the inflation argument is dumb considering he's more efficient than ever. yes he's putting up more shots but hes making more as well

He's not more efficient than ever, you can't just claim that while he's putting up a shyt ton of turnovers, that was our point.

And his TS% was 52 % last year and 53%, it's not like he's dominating.

I don't understand your obsession with him. Most of us here have said we wish him well, but he's gone now so move the fukk on. Kuzma is a better fit alongside Lonzo/the rest of the team than DLo and our defense is the best it's been in years with him gone and randle on the bench. Appreciate the good instead of focusing on shyt that's already happened.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

@O.T.I.S. i never said dlo was any kinda all star. I just said in back to back post that the nikka go a ways to go himself.

I might have not been referring to you bruh. I think I confused you with @Dwight Howard or @Premeditated

Regardless, it's still all love and still LWO, we're just having a discussion or disagreement.

I personally think Russell is talented but I notice his flaws. I wasn't a fan of the pick but once I got over it I still rooted for him to be successful with us.

Now that he's gone I think its for the best in both parties and time to move on.

Like I said, what do Dlo fans think our record would be without KCP/Kuz/Lopez and just Dlo and Moz?

I know for a fact out defense would be absolutely shyt.

 

[King Biko]

I dap you because you might not be completely correct with some things due to your Dlo bias, but you make some good points.

First, Zo can get by his man.. He just is a downhill player. His fav player is Lebron and despite not being the athlete Lebron is, one of Lebrons biggest critiques was his lack of halfcourt game and ballhandling. He got away with it because of his athleticisim.

Zo CAN get by his man he just doesn't always do it or is aggressive enough in 1v1 situations. Its not his style but I agree... He could use some ball handling help to help him break down defenders 1v1 when they cut the lane off for him.

Which is when Kobe told him "how is your post up game" that was real.. Tbh, at his size, Zo could actually be effective in the post in halfcourt nikkas just don't put him in the situation often.

Dlo is more of a 1v1 player than Zo will ever be but it means nothing imo. Zo cares about winning and once he realizes that he needs to get just his EASY buckets to fall then things will become easier for him... WINS will become easier for the Lakers.

The same can not be said for Dlo.

We're 5-7 with the 4th toughest schedule in the league so far with Zo having the worst shooting year of his life and a bunch of pieces just being instilled. That should say a lot more about him, the trade, and the culture of our team.

Im a fan of both. I honestly don't feel like im bias 2 dlo im only defending him because some of these post have been str8 hate post. I could have enough to say about dlo that would make you think i hate his game the same way it might seem right now about zo but im actually a zo fan

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Nick young aint half the ball handler or got any of the vision dlo has. Dlo is extremely advanced in the pick n roll and as a nid range shooter. Nick young has been a spot up shooter for years now. The level of inaccuracies in your post just show hate

He is but it doesn't matter if you still turning the ball over 5 times a game or not making teammates better.

DLo does that. Turns the ball over, plays Harden-esque defense, and doesn't focus on making the team better. Nick is a scorer flat out. He's a Lou Will, Jamal Crawford, or someone simillar... He is buckets off the bench.

Lakers right now need a flat out shooter/scorer. DLo has skills but none of them transcend anything Ball can do. Ball can learn the pick.. Dlo hasn't learned defense in 3 years.

Like I said, If Ball was shooting even SLIGHTLY better.. If he was making his easy buckets that he has missed in his slump then this wouldn't even be an issue

This isn't Dlo slander either this is my opinion for what I've seen as facts. Dlo is a hooper no doubt.. He is above average in the more noticeable shyt, but his is not the answer for us.

Dlo stans need to accept that and move on

 

[Sccit]

Nick young aint half the ball handler or got any of the vision dlo has. Dlo is extremely advanced in the pick n roll and as a nid range shooter. Nick young has been a spot up shooter for years now. The level of inaccuracies in your post just show hate

NICK YOUNG GOT DECENT HANDLES N A WAY BETTER SHOT. HE'S ALSO A BETTER DEFENDER N CAN PLAY OFF THE BALL. THEY ON THE SAME LEVEL BRUH.

 

[Sccit]

you can play with scrubs and put up impressive stats. the inflation argument is dumb considering he's more efficient than ever. yes he's putting up more shots but hes making more as well

HE'S NOT MORE EFFICIENT THAN EVER LMAO STOP SAYIN THAT

 

[Premeditated]

If he's so superior why does he suck and is the same overrated player with a shyttier record and matador defense?

Like I said... Go root for Brooklyn if yall still on this dudes nuts who's not even on your team???


You had 3 years of losing with trash ass Russell and now crying over 3 weeks of losing 7 games with Lonzo... Who is statistically better than Russell in every way EXCEPT scoring..

FOH with you D.Lo nikkas who still can't get over that his wack, snitching, goofy ass got traded

it is what it is. we just gonna what to agree to disagree bruh

 

[King Biko]

He is but it doesn't matter if you still turning the ball over 5 times a game or not making teammates better.

DLo does that. Turns the ball over, plays Harden-esque defense, and doesn't focus on making the team better. Nick is a scorer flat out. He's a Lou Will, Jamal Crawford, or someone simillar... He is buckets off the bench.

Lakers right now need a flat out shooter/scorer. DLo has skills but none of them transcend anything Ball can do. Ball can learn the pick.. Dlo hasn't learned defense in 3 years.

Like I said, If Ball was shooting even SLIGHTLY better.. If he was making his easy buckets that he has missed in his slump then this wouldn't even be an issue

See the thing with dlo is the inconsistenty. That nikka might average 5 turnovers a game but its not like hes dropping 5 turnovers every game. He will have a unbelievable game a drop 7 or 8 impressive dimes with no turnovers and then drop 3 assist with 8 turnovers. Like he average 20 a game but its not like jes dropping 20 evety game. He will come out and drop like 30 on 14 shots and then drop like 16 on 23 shots. When he is on the nikka be so impressive because he makes it looks so easy but when he have a bad night its like hes a Washington general frfr. If you watch him his court vision is very real tho, even realer than balls. Ball is a much more willing passer tho and willing to move the ball with in the offense.

 

[Dwight Howard]

He is but it doesn't matter if you still turning the ball over 5 times a game or not making teammates better.

DLo does that. Turns the ball over, plays Harden-esque defense, and doesn't focus on making the team better. Nick is a scorer flat out. He's a Lou Will, Jamal Crawford, or someone simillar... He is buckets off the bench.

Lakers right now need a flat out shooter/scorer. DLo has skills but none of them transcend anything Ball can do. Ball can learn the pick.. Dlo hasn't learned defense in 3 years.

Like I said, If Ball was shooting even SLIGHTLY better.. If he was making his easy buckets that he has missed in his slump then this wouldn't even be an issue

This isn't Dlo slander either this is my opinion for what I've seen as facts. Dlo is a hooper no doubt.. He is above average in the more noticeable shyt, but his is not the answer for us.

Dlo stans need to accept that and move on

with the lack of shooting...yea he was. just because we traded him doesnt mean "he's not the answer". teams make dumb trades everyday

 

[King Biko]

NICK YOUNG GOT DECENT HANDLES N A WAY BETTER SHOT. HE'S ALSO A BETTER DEFENDER N CAN PLAY OFF THE BALL. THEY ON THE SAME LEVEL BRUH.

Thats a lie. Nick young is basically a spot up shooter and just started being seen as an average defender last year. Don't be a hater bruh just because you like ball don't mean you gotta hate on dlo

 

[Dwight Howard]

HE'S NOT MORE EFFICIENT THAN EVER LMAO STOP SAYIN THAT

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[King Biko]

with the lack of shooting...yea he was. just because we traded him doesnt mean "he's not the answer". teams make dumb trades everyday

Hes kinda right. Dlo was never going to be a great laker. He has a chance to be great as a net tho