Ballers Wanna Ball, Rollers Wanna Roll, But We're Taking All--The Official 2017-2018 Lakers Thread

[Flex Luger]

At you trying to put him in the same category as those nikkas.

Yall keep calling him an allstar as well

Ok.. So he needed a change of scenery to be the same, mediocre ass nikka so why are yall still talking about him now?

Who is y'all? Not one time have I said dude is an all star. I said he was talented. Maybe some other ppl in this thread have called him one but not me. Dude is a talented young guard who's still improving.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Russell's numbers are up because his usage rate is 4th in the entire league. The funny thing is he's getting fewer minutes this year than he did while he was in LA, which half of you guys constantly bytched about. Wonder why that is...

his minutes are only down cause of injury and blowouts. buts its funny how he is more efficient and putting up 20/5/5 in less minutes than he ever played with us. he is simply better now, you dont have to make excuses just cause youre wrong

 

[Dwight Howard]

That is because OKC is a good defensive team all around and Roberson is a negative on offense.

OKC would take Russell because they have a solid defensive team with out without Roberson. Also Roberson is playing 4on5 compared to guys like KCP who can do something on offensive end.

You can D'Angelo would have improved his defense if he stayed with Lakers, but he hasn't done so with the Nets.

Like I said, I am just gonna wait till FA. If the FO fails to get a big name, you guys can go ahead and shyt on them all you want for not keeping D'lo because then there was no point in getting rid of those bad contracts and they could have just let the young guys rebuild together. But if they do, then there was no point in D'lo being here anyways. If PG comes, D'lo had to go.

if they dont get 2 max FA's it was a colossal mistake

 

[Dwight Howard]

all these Dlo stans not realizing only reason we were 10-10 last year was cuz of Nick Young and Lou will. This team is actually 5-7 because of the young guys not veterans saving there asses.

I dont think any young player would win with those rosters, lets be real

 

[King Biko]

Russell's numbers are up because his usage rate is 4th in the entire league. The funny thing is he's getting fewer minutes this year than he did while he was in LA, which half of you guys constantly bytched about. Wonder why that is...

Its not just about the numbers. Hes shown potential of being really good. Im a fan of his but im only commenting because of the amount of hate laker fans have been showing him to over compensate for him showing more promise than any laker especially ball. Russell has a long way to go but saying hes the same player he was a rookie is just pure hate. The truth is he showed more in his first 10 games than ball has and he showed more coming out of college than ball also. That's the issue with the thread, they should just admit that and move on. Hes not a laker anymore but hes damn near the only player that's been mentioned on the page in a laker thread.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

so you be watching nets games like that?

the turnovers are bad but thats fixable and he playing with scrubs. he shooting 45% which is respectable. and the defense thing is overblown considering how bad the team is and that he is an average defender for his position statistically

Nope

I watched enough Lakers game to the point where I don't need to watch Nets game...

And if you couldn't tell, I'm not a Dlo fan and could give 2 fukks about him in BK. I wish him the best as well, I thought the trade was mutually beneficial. And aside from scoring "20/5/5" it looks like he hasn't done shyt else


Defense is definitely not overblown either.

nikkas so impressed with 20/5/5 that they ignore the 5 to's, lack of defense, and the other shyt that comes with him.

if he's doing good in your opinion over there then good for him. Don't need to see his name a million times after every LA loss especially against greater teams.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Nope

I watched enough Lakers game to the point where I don't need to watch Nets game...

And if you couldn't tell, I'm not a Dlo fan and could give 2 fukks about him in BK. I wish him the best as well, I thought the trade was mutually beneficial. And aside from scoring "20/5/5" it looks like he hasn't done shyt else


Defense is definitely not overblown either.

nikkas so impressed with 20/5/5 that they ignore the 5 to's, lack of defense, and the other shyt that comes with him.

if he's doing good in your opinion over there then good for him. Don't need to see his name a million times after every LA loss especially against greater teams.

I mean people are able to talk anything laker related in here. DLO is still laker-related, I mean you cant reasonably expect people not to comment on huge trade and wonder what if. the only reason yall dont wanna see it cause its pouring salt in wounds. the truth hurts

 

[KOBE]

You can't say he's playing with scrubs then trying to say his stats are impressive instead of inflated.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Its not just about the numbers. Hes shown potential of being really good. Im a fan of his but im only commenting because of the amount of hate laker fans have been showing him to over compensate for him showing more promise than any laker especially ball. Russell has a long way to go but saying hes the same player he was a rookie is just pure hate. The truth is he showed more in his first 10 games than ball has and he showed more coming out of college than ball also. That's the issue with the thread, they should just admit that and move on. Hes not a laker anymore but hes damn near the only player that's been mentioned on the page in a laker thread.

And this is what I don't understand about you Dlo stans that SAY they are Lakers fans and secretly dislike Zo...

Aside from Balls lack of shooting AT THIS POINT, please seriously explain to me what and how is Dlo supposedly a better player than Ball????

Especially considering this is Dlo's 3rd year? And this is Balls what, FIRST 10 GAMES?

Ball has already shown to be a better and more willingful passer. Already a better rebounder.. Already a MUCH better defender which is what I thought was going to be his biggest obstacle honestly.

So aside from shooting (despite DLo shooting like shyt from 3) in what shape or form is Dlo a better player? Dlo apparently aint changing no cultures in BK unless I'm mistaken.

And they have a worse record

What assists records in college did DLo break?

And this isn't even a Lonzo dikkriding post. Zo got a lot of shyt to work on mainly getting easy baskets. You can't be missing FT's and normally he shot those well in college. You can't be missing WIDE OPEN shots. I get on Lonzo like anybody else.

If Zo was executing just his EASY shots, this wouldn't even be a discussion or even close to one. Zo is not even a scorer

 

[King Biko]

And this is what I don't understand about you Dlo stans that SAY they are Lakers fans and secretly dislike Zo...

Aside from Balls lack of shooting AT THIS POINT, please seriously explain to me what and how is Dlo supposedly a better player than Ball????

Especially considering this is Dlo's 3rd year? And this is Balls what, FIRST 10 GAMES?

Ball has already shown to be a better and more willingful passer. Already a better rebounder.. Already a MUCH better defender which is what I thought was going to be his biggest obstacle honestly.

So aside from shooting (despite DLo shooting like shyt from 3) in what shape or form is Dlo a better player? Dlo apparently aint changing no cultures in BK unless I'm mistaken.

And they have a worse record

What assists records in college did DLo break?

And this isn't even a Lonzo dikkriding post. Zo got a lot of shyt to work on mainly getting easy baskets. You can't be missing FT's and normally he shot those well in college. You can't be missing WIDE OPEN shots. I get on Lonzo like anybody else.

I dont dislike zo at all. Check out any post that i have said anything about him. I think hes going to fine dispite his struggles. The same problems i saw with zo in college i see now, hes incredible in transition and full court sets but once the game slows down he struggles to make plays in a half court set and hes not that great in pick in roll. But im going to call a spade a spade in this thread all the extra dlo hate is over compensation for ball struggling that's just a fact and its not like i was talking about you in particular. Yall talk about dlo numbers being inflated but so are lonzos assist numbers and the pointless rebound numbers that yall seem to brag about. I love the fact that lonzo is not careless with the ball and not a turnover machine like dlo like i said d lo has a long way to go but some people in this thread acting like he has shown no promise. Numbers aside; ive seen him str8 take over games as a laker, buckeye and net. Something i haven't seen from any of the laker you players like that. Hes frustratingly inconsistent but when hes on what young laker has shown to be on his level? Numbers aside that's how hes better than ball.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I dont dislike zo at all. Check out any post that i have said anything about him. I think hes going to fine dispite his struggles. The same problems i saw with zo in college i see now, hes incredible in transition and full court sets but once the game slows down he struggles to make plays in a half court set and hes not that great in pick in roll. But im going to call a spade a spade in this thread all the extra dlo hate is over compensation for ball struggling that's just a fact and its not like i was talking about you in particular. Yall talk about dlo numbers being inflated but so are lonzos assist numbers and the pointless rebound numbers that yall seem to brag about. I love the fact that lonzo is not careless with the ball and not a turnover machine like dlo like i said d lo has a long way to go but some people in this thread acting like he has shown no promise. Numbers aside; ive seen him str8 take over games as a laker, buckeye and net. Something i haven't seen from any of the laker you players like that. Hes frustratingly inconsistent but when hes on what young laker has shown to be on his level? Numbers aside that's how hes better than ball.

But it wasn't DLo hate to compensate for Zo struggling

It was the other way around. Zo is struggling with his shot ONLY and nikkas bring up Dlo like he would save us...

What do you nikkas think our record would be with Dlo and Mozgov compared to Lopez/Kuz/KCP?

And you mean to tell me you never seen Zo take over a game?????

He did it multiple times in Summerleague.. He did it against NBA teams as a rookie with less than 5 games. You had DLo here for fukking 2/3 years so ofcourse you gonna see him take over and do some shyt.. You had plenty of time to. Thats 160+ games to watch Dlo either do something big or be mostly inconsistent, no factor on defense, volume shooter, turnover machine, etc.

Dlo is not in any way better than Ball for us bruh.. Dlo is not changing an entire team which Ball has done 3 times in his basketball career. In HS, IN COLLEGE, and in SL.

The only difference between him then and now is that his shot is not falling. He's not even an offensive player but if you never seen him change a game with passes and crazy shots in college then IDK what to tell you.

Ball was never here to be our Kobe Bryant or our Michael Jordan... He was here to get our talented players the ball and help us win. Which he has been doing for the most part. He was here to change our identity, which he has for the most part. That is what Dlo was supposed to do and looked how that worked out.

Its not all on Dlo either but stop overrating him and making it seem like he is some allstar calibur player (as of now) when he's not.

 

[Sccit]

so you be watching nets games like that?

the turnovers are bad but thats fixable and he playing with scrubs. he shooting 45% which is respectable. and the defense thing is overblown considering how bad the team is and that he is an average defender for his position statistically

I WATCH NET GAMES AND HE IS INCONSISTENT AS THEY COME. HE'S NICK YOUNG STATUS WIT A MUCH HIGHER USAGE RATE. NICK COULD AVERAGE 20 WIT THE SAME NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS..AND WOULD PROLLY GET WAY LESS TURNOVERS.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I WATCH NET GAMES AND HE IS INCONSISTENT AS THEY COME. HE'S NICK YOUNG STATUS WIT A MUCH HIGHER USAGE RATE. NICK COULD AVERAGE 20 WIT THE SAME NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS..AND WOULD PROLLY GET WAY LESS TURNOVERS.

nikkas hated Nick Young too but one thing Nick can do is get you points and play tough D. He's over in GS hooping right now and I think if he had stayed in LA he would've been hooping and Zo would've had fun playing along side of him... Just like Steph and GS are

 

[King Biko]

But it wasn't DLo hate to compensate for Zo struggling

It was the other way around. Zo is struggling with his shot ONLY and nikkas bring up Dlo like he would save us...

What do you nikkas think our record would be with Dlo and Mozgov compared to Lopez/Kuz/KCP?

And you mean to tell me you never seen Zo take over a game?????

He did it multiple times in Summerleague.. He did it against NBA teams as a rookie with less than 5 games. You had DLo here for fukking 2/3 years so ofcourse you gonna see him take over and do some shyt.. You had plenty of time to. Thats 160+ games to watch Dlo either do something big or be mostly inconsistent, no factor on defense, volume shooter, turnover machine, etc.

Dlo is not in any way better than Ball for us bruh.. Dlo is not changing an entire team which Ball has done 3 times in his basketball career. In HS, IN COLLEGE, and in SL.

The only difference between him then and now is that his shot is not falling. He's not even an offensive player but if you never seen him change a game with passes and crazy shots in college then IDK what to tell you.

Like i said the over compensate statement wasn't about you. And no i haven't seen zo just take over a game. Ive seen his affect and like you aaid change a game but him just taking over no i haven't. And ive watched alot of him. Nothing against lonzo tho very few players do that and dlo can but hes inconsistent af. I do like zo tho and im excited to see where hes going to go but he gotta find a way 2 be affective when the game slows down. Hes got good athletism but its like you don't even see it once the game slows down. He really needs to improve as a ball handler also. Its rare that you see him beat his man off the dribble or with the first step.

 

[King Biko]

I WATCH NET GAMES AND HE IS INCONSISTENT AS THEY COME. HE'S NICK YOUNG STATUS WIT A MUCH HIGHER USAGE RATE. NICK COULD AVERAGE 20 WIT THE SAME NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS..AND WOULD PROLLY GET WAY LESS TURNOVERS.

Nick young aint half the ball handler or got any of the vision dlo has. Dlo is extremely advanced in the pick n roll and as a nid range shooter. Nick young has been a spot up shooter for years now. The level of inaccuracies in your post just show hate