good starting point but you need to get advanced stuff once you get in
Bachelor's Degree: An Unnecessary Path To a Tech Job
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Sure you don't need a degree to learn the material. But a degree is what will get you the job, or you'll have to spend years in an entry level position in order to gain the experience needed for top Tech jobs.
What @DEAD7 leaves out is these are the bottom of the barrel IT jobs. High level IT jobs require a degree especially if you want to go into management (where we really need minorities)
You anti-education fukks need to stop.
Most companies are willing to overlook a college degree if you come with a strong interview and design skills. If they won't even interview just because you don't have a degree then it might be a blessing you don't get hired there...you know this as well.
Degrees are extremely important though, but a portfolio is in some cases more important than said degree.
I don't have a degree in computer science (my OG major), but having the comm degree along with the self taught skills in the field and soon to be objective-c mastery leaves development firms looking foolish.
For example, I am working on a dating app for mobile phones...I met with a firm with a similar goal but they were completely clueless on the humanity of the project. They did not admit it, but what I showed blew them away compared to what they had and I expect a call back in the coming weeks once the reality sets in on their end.
You'd be surprised how clueless some of these cats are when it comes to connecting with people.
Most companies are willing to overlook a college degree. But if it comes down to you VS. the dude with the degree, he'll get the job 9 times out of 10.
I don't think anyone is arguing that though.
superunknown23
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basically this is another pointless thread with a misleading title
Seems the title in this thread is implying that.
A degree isn't "necessary" for any job in the literal sense of the word. But the "college is worthless" crowd seems to push this idea that you will be equal or even better off than a guy with a degree. That's just not true.
True but I have had a lot of degree engineers come in here who cannot pass a technical interview. So your degree will get you the interview but the job is not guaranteed.basically this is another pointless thread with a misleading title
Overall degree >>no degree.
You don't NEED the degree... BUT i know for a fact..........
I'm not hiring a man or some bytch without one... She could be the best programmer in the world, expert on that language, framework, exp in that methododolgy... all that shyt...
but she may be a robot. Or he may be wack as fukk. Can't face the business team, or client, or coworkers. Might not fit a certain culture.... Plus college and exp like that helps with creativity.
At all times exp > degree, but still..... you at least need a fukking Bs or BA..
*unless you're a genius rockstar, personable and young with dope coding skills. and ur own portfolio that clearly shows youre a rockstar.
I'm not hiring a man or some bytch without one... She could be the best programmer in the world, expert on that language, framework, exp in that methododolgy... all that shyt...
but she may be a robot. Or he may be wack as fukk. Can't face the business team, or client, or coworkers. Might not fit a certain culture.... Plus college and exp like that helps with creativity.
At all times exp > degree, but still..... you at least need a fukking Bs or BA..
*unless you're a genius rockstar, personable and young with dope coding skills. and ur own portfolio that clearly shows youre a rockstar.
How important is the bolded?
Depends on the organization.. for most it's Very important.
IF no degree then def important.... and most it jobs are considered 'fast-paced' environments... so they don't want old nikkas for entry to mid level.
h2o_proof
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Yep, it definitely happens. I was in a similar situation making 42k at age 21 back in the early 2000's while the rest of my friends that were still in college were struggling. You just gotta put in work, degree or no degree in order to get ahead. Some of my friends have since graduated and even gotten their master's but are still not on the path to financial freedom because they have a sense of entitlement due to their degree's. They won't take certain jobs because they feel they are beneath them, or they bounce from job to job when things get rough and because of that their 401k's have suffered.
My philosophy is that if you're willing to put in the time and do the things that others won't do, you make yourself more valuable. If I lost my job today and had to go and work at Burger King (which my friends with degree's would never do) I'd be managing one of them joints within a couple months and opening a franchise within a couple years.
Kilgore Trout
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in engineering you need a degree.