Baby boomers are adjusting to a new retirement normal: No grandchildren

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what more is it? Career women establishing their careers in their mid 30's then spending several years dealing with the wrong Men or having an extended Hot girl summer then trying to have an opps baby or freezing their eggs in the 40's even if they have a kid that usually only one, rare is the women who wants to have a church of kids, so even women who do that means a 50% reduction and add in accidents and incels and it's easy for the population to fall off a cliff.

What saved ADOS back in the day was girls having opps babies in high school. oNce they solved that problem you move closer toward a South Korean model.
How old are you and do you have kids?
 

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My grandparents begged me for over 10 years for great grandchildren, they are just at the point where they have given up on me. They have five grandchildren all ages 25+ and none of us have kids even the married ones. No one want to take on that extra responsibility in this economy. Life is 10x easier when you are childless, why sign up for a life misery just to make someone else happy. They need to learn to find their own happiness
 
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respectfully refers to a race/ethnic group of Hispanic descent immigrating to the U.S and using a slur to refer to immigrants of African descent. :patrice:


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I'm highlighting the ridiculousness of the anti immigrant movement.
 

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Story after story . Article after article. Something is clearly wrong but we're just going to keep making jokes until the point of no return.

Nothing is wrong. Stop racking up credit card and auto debt. Cost of living is up, Stop letting employers lowball you.

A lot of people just make bad decisions. I know plenty of average and low income people who get by just fine with kids.
 
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i swear we will have to have centralized baby factories like in those 90s movies if we want our population to sustain itself. Both child birth and child rearing would have to be a govt responsibility when the populace doesnt care to do it itself. The only other alternative are the unethical choices of actively depressing population metrics for development, the same way we already do by purposefully creating unemployment and inflation with fed policy.







we are next breh. we arent magical black people immune to this stuff like we thought we were at the beginning of covid

we like to pretend its not a black issue but it is. its a global issue and a consequence of economic development. look at a map of hdi or gdp per capita in Africa and the carribean and notice the distinct difference between the poor failed states and the rapidly developing ones. its nothing but downward and very very predictable trajectories. \ South africa for instance is almost at the 2.1 replenishment point, the bahamas and barbadoes are are beneath it. even right here in america , despite black immigrants diluting the figure, we are slightly below the 2.1 replenishment rate and the trend is looking abysmal as education and incomes rise relative to prior black generations.


you gotta look at tge long term trends and you’ll notice that black people are slowly walking towards the same cliff whites, latinos, and asians have.


And no, govt subsidies wont fix anything as we have seen that strategy fail miserably in northern europe for the last 2 decades. we need to understand that folks just cant be bothered to gave kids beyond a certain point in human development.





i think you are on the right track here…


  • ironically, i think family farming would help a lot. you would ideally want to push down the population wealth, population education, societal development if you wish to return to the old paradigm of child birth. sadly, farming does this really well.


The enemy of humanity right now is the prosperity and development we spent the 20th century desperately trying to achieve.



  • i disagree with you on teaching money management. its actually counterintuitive. it only leads folks to make the extremely rational decision not to procreate, and when they do procreate; they shrewdly choose to have the bare minimum amount of children. notice how it is the folks with poor money management having the most kids on every single country and cuty on earth.


  • i also agree with you that pushing college is also a bad thing for population figures. it leads to the same issue of folks choosing to not have kids or have the bare minimum amount.

this film was lowkey prophetic….
(however , rather than only the intelligent/wealthy dying off; everyone in society becomes more intelligent due to development and everyone dies off.)




You make a good point.

Do you think Child support and divorce court are other big causes?:jbhmm: Neither aren't a joke and can be devastating so men opt out of both.

I feel like if both systems were better built with less risks, high educated men would have more inclination to have kids
 

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Basic wages ain’t building a family these days unless you want you to struggle. Although it matters where you are.
 

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Nothing is wrong. Stop racking up credit card and auto debt. Cost of living is up, Stop letting employers lowball you.

A lot of people just make bad decisions. I know plenty of average and low income people who get by just fine with kids.

People really discount just how much they will improve their life by eliminating debt and lowering their overhead.....lifestyle creep is real tho.


At this point, it's an accepted fact of how the Boomer generation played a major role in where we are today.... eliminating debt and demanding fair pay for your services will do a whole lot more than crying about some people who haven't died yet holding onto assets you can't take from them.
 

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My grandparents begged me for over 10 years for great grandchildren, they are just at the point where they have given up on me. They have five grandchildren all ages 25+ and none of us have kids even the married ones. No one want to take on that extra responsibility in this economy. Life is 10x easier when you are childless, why sign up for a life misery just to make someone else happy. They need to learn to find their own happiness

Your Great Grandparents want to ensure there genes are perpetuated into the future.
 
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