Why pay the very average Ayton 30 million when you don’t have to?
Why build around Ayton when you don’t have to?
Myles Turner is 26
Ayton signs offer sheet with Indiana: 133 max offer sheet: Suns match offer
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Why build around Ayton when you don’t have to?
Myles Turner is 26
Why did you group Murray and Siakim with the others?
They’re contracts crazy too but atleast they’re with the teams that drafted them
Indy trying to pay Ayton 30 million a year is the dumbest shyt ever
I know what happened but these types of things have existed for a long time. It’s only now that people —-fans, media, and even GMs—-are so hyper-reactive. ‘Oh they dont “like” each other he’s gonna be traded’
This whole off-season randomly has made me appreciating Jerry Krause more. Dude got a bad wrap. Krause told Mike nah we not drafting your UNC homies. Nah, we firing your boy Collins. Nah, we need a center we trading your best friend Oakley. Pippen you unhappy? Don’t care, we ain’t trading you. If not for him putting his foot down any one of those things aren’t true and it changes the course of history. Modern GMs are soft
It’s only dirty if owners colluded to do this (possible). If not, nothing dirty about it. He’s barely (if at all) worth 4/133 so he damn sure ain’t worth 4/180.You called it.
If this is right this is cold as hell. Seems like a loophole for the Suns to not have to give Ayton all his paper. Feels dirty. Wonder how Ayton looking at it.
But y’all are arguing empty logic. If the loophole was ‘closed’ and say the incumbent team matching automatically pays 4/180, Phoenix doesn’t match. And if Phoenix was exploring a S&T and ayton signed 4/180, no team would want him at that number .
There is no scenario real or hypothetically where he was ever getting 4/180
No the Suns didn’t want to offer him the full max that they can offer which would have been damn near $200 million. Ayton for around $30 million per year is a pretty good deal. He’s an 18 & 10 center shooting 60% from the field and a good defender and only 23 years old….literally every team in the league would contract him at that number if they could.
triplehate
Superstar
Restricted free agency and franchise tags gotta go from both sports
He may not go Ben Simmons, but there's always the risk of a guy not buying in when he doesn't like the coach/system and feels disrespected.
firemanBk
The Manslayer
I think his defense is nothing to write home about
Like his rim protection is kinda shyt for a 7 footer who plays as much as he does
Not even a full BPG this year despite playing nearly 30MPG
Krause also wouldn't have matched and let Ayton leave if the owner didn't want to shell out the money or the coach didn't want him there and their "leader" didn't want him.
Remember he let Horace Grant leave when him and Michael had some beef and they didn't want to pay him?
Don't just pick and choose parts of what Krause did for the sake of trying to prove a point. That's a direct correlation to this exact scenario and he did the opposite. GMs ain't soft. The team's have turned fans into acting like the players are Pokemon cards instead of people. In the 90s they would've helped Ayton pack if they didn't like him on the squad, but now? They'll trap him as an "asset"
They've turned everything into an acquisition and trading game. That's the main attraction now which is why it's goofy, but it's extra goofy that they pretend it's all on the players side.
He’s not a 30 mil a year play. All he does is dunk and his defense ain’t impressive
he averages 10 rebounds and he’s the only big man on the team
1- I said this entire off-season reminded me of Krause, not just this 1 situation
2- Horace was a problem way before he left, see Jordan Rules. Krause still got 3 chips out of the deal. Then replaced Horace with Rodman. So it was nothing like what we see now where teams will deveat from the whole course and leave a roster gap just bc someone is ‘mad’
3- Pick n chose? That’s the whole dynasty lmao Moving up in the draft to take a raw D2 Pippen (and ignoring Kenny smith from UNC who went 6), going from MJ’s yes man Collins to Phil, trading Oak for Cartwright, nt drafting/signing every UNC guy Mike wanted …also telling Mike no and making him sit after the wrist injury—-a crazy concept, telling a player NO…and oh yea Kukoc, simply signing him at all, but especially bc pippens back eventually gave out; they don’t win that last chip without Kukoc.
That dude ran a GM masterclass both from a scouting perspective and from having a backbone
Pacers really like Ayton and think he would be a good fit with Halliburton who they also really like. They believe that combination gives them a chance to make the play-offs or at least the play in.
when was the last time the pacers got a #1 pick? When was the last time they even had the chance to sign a big free agent?
Why did you group Murray and Siakim with the others?
They’re contracts crazy too but atleast they’re with the teams that drafted them
Indy trying to pay Ayton 30 million a year is the dumbest shyt ever
They offered him 30 million because they believe he is worth it in their system.
What system?
Why do they believe he’s a good fit?
Have you seen Ayton play?
Y’all sound crazy.
well the league is crazy because I would have matched or signed him also. They pretty much had to or risk losing him for nothing.
It makes sense for Phoenix to keep him.
I’m trying understand why the Pacers would want him at 30 million a year and other than pure desperation it makes no sense whatsoever
It’s like an Isaiah Thomas Knicks free agency move to overpay whoever is available
