Ayo.... How Did No Limit Sell So Many Records?

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yea, people get mad on here when i point out that outkast inherited that PM Dawn/arrested development fanbase. that and the laface machine are the reasons why they were able to go platinum back in the day. i know some tears were shed on some coli keyboards when i pointed out that LA Reid himself said that he signed outkast because they reminded him of arrested development.

and yea, lol @ c-murder not being a star. older people who dont even follow rap know about c-murder.

Nobody gets mad. Comparing Kast to PM Dawn and Arrested is in error and shows you have zero understanding.

La Face had little to do with Kast going platinum. Goodie Mob was on La Face and never went platinum. Youngbloodz never went platinum. Kast is the ONLY platinum act ever signed to La Face. And L.A. Reid didn't sign Kast because they reminded him of Arrested Develepment. It was because of the success of "Tennessee" as Atlanta had no other successful rap group outside of Kriss Kross.

And your statement on C-Murder being a star makes you the biggest hypocrite on this site. You discredit Kast by saying they have these fans who don't follow Hip Hop, but use that same stance to prop C-Murder as a star. Be consistent.
 

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It's because he said SOLD WORLDWIDE. Like i think the Massacre sold 5m in the USA but it sold 10m worldwide..

So Worldwide, the breh that posted those stats from Wiki a few pages back that has the numbers of each album sold were world wide numbers?

So a Steady Mobbin could have sold 800k on their first album?

100 million records World-wide, That means other C-D lister artists had to sell correct or wrong?
 

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Yeah I forgot about Serv and Bleed (on the Mac/Magic status)

100 million

100 albums would mean that each pushed 1 million (Did NL drop 100 albums) from 96-2000? P was yelling he hit 75-100 million sold in the 2000s

A breh stated that Wiki numbers are World-wide

So did Mia X only sell 1 million records? or did she sell more?

Did Steady Mobbin only sell 500k records combined from their 2 albums or did they sell more?

I'm trying to understand how P is yelling 100 million records sold but, He, Snoop, Mystikal, Silkk, Romeo are the stars. Them 5 would have to had 70% of the sales of NL sales to even get to 70 million records being sold
 

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100 million

100 albums would mean that each pushed 1 million (Did NL drop 100 albums) from 96-2000? P was yelling he hit 75-100 million sold in the 2000s

A breh stated that Wiki numbers are World-wide

So did Mia X only sell 1 million records? or did she sell more?

Did Steady Mobbin only sell 500k records combined from their 2 albums or did they sell more?

I'm trying to understand how P is yelling 100 million records sold but, He, Snoop, Mystikal, Silkk, Romeo are the stars. Them 5 would have to had 70% of the sales of NL sales to even get to 70 million records being sold

That 100 million does not only include album sales. It includes includes singles as well. It also includes numbers pre-1996.

Steady Mobb'n, I think, but not sure has a gold plaque for "If I Could Change".
 

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So Worldwide, the breh that posted those stats from Wiki a few pages back that has the numbers of each album sold were world wide numbers?

So a Steady Mobbin could have sold 800k on their first album?

100 million records World-wide, That means other C-D lister artists had to sell correct or wrong?

100 million

100 albums would mean that each pushed 1 million (Did NL drop 100 albums) from 96-2000? P was yelling he hit 75-100 million sold in the 2000s
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A breh stated that Wiki numbers are World-wide

So did Mia X only sell 1 million records? or did she sell more?

Did Steady Mobbin only sell 500k records combined from their 2 albums or did they sell more?

I'm trying to understand how P is yelling 100 million records sold but, He, Snoop, Mystikal, Silkk, Romeo are the stars. Them 5 would have to had 70% of the sales of NL sales to even get to 70 million records being sold

I dunno who told you Wiki is world wide but that's false. When it's world wide, it specifically says that:

Doggystyle - Wikipedia

See how it lists Europe and New Zealand?

Now look at Mia X:

Mama Drama (album) - Wikipedia

It says her 3rd album is certified 2x plat and did 2.8 mill total. Which is bullshyt. RIAA only has 1 gold plaque for her entire career, off her first album.

Let's get crazy and say she did 2.8 mill world wide. That still makes no sense because RIAA is only for America.

Which is the problem with Master P saying he sold 100 mill world wide. There is no global entity that tracks world wide sales. Which is why nobody has called him out....you can't prove, or disprove it.

Now....am I saying it's impossible he sold 100 mill world wide? No.....but No Limit would have to be some of the biggest pop stars in history to do that:

List of best-selling music artists - Wikipedia

Britney Spears....Backstreet Boys....Janet Jackson....No Limit? :mjlol:

shyt don't even make any sense breh.

Fred.
 

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100 million

100 albums would mean that each pushed 1 million (Did NL drop 100 albums) from 96-2000? P was yelling he hit 75-100 million sold in the 2000s

A breh stated that Wiki numbers are World-wide

So did Mia X only sell 1 million records? or did she sell more?

Did Steady Mobbin only sell 500k records combined from their 2 albums or did they sell more?

I'm trying to understand how P is yelling 100 million records sold but, He, Snoop, Mystikal, Silkk, Romeo are the stars. Them 5 would have to had 70% of the sales of NL sales to even get to 70 million records being sold

The numbers also include singles which is why Birdman says Cash Money sold over 130m which us harder to believe
 

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It does not matter whether you cared about the Southern scene until No Limit. That is completely irrelevant and no he is not credited as such. Nah, breh you need not speak kn things you know nothing about. You can't talk about Southern Hip Hop and act like you are an authority on it.


:dwillhuh:

are you really that dense??? do you not understand the basis of this discussion??

im talking about when the southern market became a thing. it was off the strength of no limit.

you dont realize it because youre a southern homer, under the impression that the south had chit poppin longer than it actually did.

do you understand now? if not, im done with this.


Breh, there are no similarities between PMDawn, Arrested Development and OutKast period. This thread isn't even about them anyway. Outkast was only mentioned and here you are bringing up the same old tired argument that you have been harping on for years.


still trying to figure out if youre really this dense or if youre just playing dumb.

im gonna assume the latter, seeing how you keep side-stepping the fact the LA Reid signed them because of their similarities to arrested development. you ducked this 3 times in this thread. youre definitely just playing dumb.

im done arguing about that.

LOL. they even stopped marketing outkast towards the rap crowd after a while.


A rap act appearing on a Soul Food soundtrack, a TLC album or a La Face Christmas compilation doesn't do anything. I mean Puff had a song on the same soundtrack and it also appears on No Way Out, but that song hardly made any noise and Puff was on fire at the time.


outkast isnt just a rap act.

theyre a hybrid group.

theyre tailor made for laface compilations and guest-spots. stop pretending that they were the hot boys or somebody.

i dont know why youre bringing puff into this. you dont threw a ton of rappers under the rug in the last couple pages for no reason. and i dont recall any of those outkast songs making any noise either from those albums, except player's ball.


Breh, there is no way to prove where the bulk of Kast's sales came from. Kast did not get booed because of some bogus notion that they were not Hip Hop enough. That's ludicrous. Your whole crusade against them is two reasons:

1) They beat out Bone for that award at the same Source awards you're mentioning

2) They are held in much higher regard than No Limit

For those two reasons, you try to rewrite history and discredit them and big up Bone and No Limit whom you stan.


its obvious where they got their sales boosts from. your problem is, your awareness levels are low and youre very much out the loop on everything that requires cognizance. you get called out everytime for it, and it aint even me calling you out half the time.

they had their detractors and it wasnt about being from the south, altho that didnt help, but nobody else got curved in that manner at those awards.
also, their entrance was very r&b-ish and their push was extra. AGAIN, you shouldnt be arguing if i have to explain this chit to you.

what crusade?? i havnt talked about outkast on here in ages. youre the one that keeps forcing them into every discussion.:laugh:
- and lol @ you throwing chit at the wall. bone won bigger awards than best new group at the source, and if i was to be a stan and get petty like you claim - they got screwed out of plenty of awards. wheres my crusade against all those other artists??
- you didnt even bother making a correlation between outkast & no limit. LOL. what does one have to do with the other? and for the record, i really dont see outkast held in high-regard like that outside of media & the internet. LOL. even when i lived down south, i only talked about outkast on here.:laugh:
 
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My point with that is the Soul Food soundtrack was mainly an R&B affair with a couple of rap songs tacked on. Still, Ghetto D sold about the same if not more than that soundtrack and featured the entire roster with all of them having ads in the album.

In regard to soundtracks, P and Silkk were also on the Scream 2 soundtrack.


you do realize that before outkast crossed over more into white america, their main consumer base was the laface-esque r&b crowd, right?

more of their retail buyers were clearly more likely to buy a babyface album along with it, rather than say an album by the 5th ward boys.

youre from georgia, so it might sound crazy to you, and that much is understandable. but if you cant look outside the box, then theres certain things that you just shouldnt be arguing about.


I see this thread got the No limit stans mad as fukk

dUDeS iS lIKe 12 oN tHiS bOArD


not stanning.

i just hate when people say stupid chit and revise history.

keep it movin tho. youre not qualified to converse with me.
 
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not stanning.

i just hate when people say stupid chit and revise history.

keep it movin tho. youre not qualified to converse with me.

Ain’t no one saying dumb shyt but you

Not qualified lmao step the fukk off of your high horse and get off master P dikk while your there too

“Not Stanning” Smh you stanning hard

Salty muhfukka much. Yeah bounce.
 

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That 100 million does not only include album sales. It includes includes singles as well. It also includes numbers pre-1996.

Steady Mobb'n, I think, but not sure has a gold plaque for "If I Could Change".

As you stated, No Limit artists got made exposure correct?

"If I Could Change" was a video and was on radio play heavy, and it sold GOLD, the single alone, Steady Mobbin was on other NL acts, before then, so they were so called "exposed" to fans, going by what you stated about NL GOAT promo

Why don't you think Steady Mobbin didn't sell close to 800k? That album in 1997, when it came out, peaked at what position?

You don't think Steady Mobbin pushed units?
I dunno who told you Wiki is world wide but that's false. When it's world wide, it specifically says that:

Doggystyle - Wikipedia

See how it lists Europe and New Zealand?

Now look at Mia X:

Mama Drama (album) - Wikipedia

It says her 3rd album is certified 2x plat and did 2.8 mill total. Which is bullshyt. RIAA only has 1 gold plaque for her entire career, off her first album.

Let's get crazy and say she did 2.8 mill world wide. That still makes no sense because RIAA is only for America.

Which is the problem with Master P saying he sold 100 mill world wide. There is no global entity that tracks world wide sales. Which is why nobody has called him out....you can't prove, or disprove it.

Now....am I saying it's impossible he sold 100 mill world wide? No.....but No Limit would have to be some of the biggest pop stars in history to do that:

List of best-selling music artists - Wikipedia

Britney Spears....Backstreet Boys....Janet Jackson....No Limit? :mjlol:

shyt don't even make any sense breh.

Fred.


Does the RIAA back in 1996-1998 counted CDs/tapes that were sold from the Mom and Pop stores around the country in every hood?? Or do they just tally up their sales, from Circuit City, TowerRecords, Best Buy, etc??

Why would P continue to say he sold 100 million records sold, where is he getting this number for and why 100 and not 50 or 200, the man has to know his business right or nah??

Master P - The Ghetto Trying to Kill album sold how many records???
 

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Does the RIAA back in 1996-1998 counted CDs/tapes that were sold from the Mom and Pop stores around the country in every hood?? Or do they just tally up their sales, from Circuit City, TowerRecords, Best Buy, etc??

Not sure on the answer to your question but RIAA sales are counted by the number of units shipped to stores and not returned. So it’s a little different than the number of customers who actually bought the album.
 

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As you stated, No Limit artists got made exposure correct?

"If I Could Change" was a video and was on radio play heavy, and it sold GOLD, the single alone, Steady Mobbin was on other NL acts, before then, so they were so called "exposed" to fans, going by what you stated about NL GOAT promo

Why don't you think Steady Mobbin didn't sell close to 800k? That album in 1997, when it came out, peaked at what position?

You don't think Steady Mobbin pushed units?

"If I Could Change" was also on the I'm Bout It Soundtrack before it appeared on Steady Mobb'n's album. They definitely weren't promoted like other artists on the Tank. I think that was their only appearance in 1997. Compare them to say Kane & Abel who actually went Gold. Kane & Abel were on almost all the major No Limit releases.

Does the RIAA back in 1996-1998 counted CDs/tapes that were sold from the Mom and Pop stores around the country in every hood?? Or do they just tally up their sales, from Circuit City, TowerRecords, Best Buy, etc??

Why would P continue to say he sold 100 million records sold, where is he getting this number for and why 100 and not 50 or 200, the man has to know his business right or nah??

Master P - The Ghetto Trying to Kill album sold how many records???

RIAA certifies albums gold and platinum based on shipments. I don't think Mom & Pop factors into that, but do count towards soundscan (which accounts for units actually sold). There was a list with most No Limit releases that had the numbers each of them sold. I will see if I can find it.

The reason P would boast that he sold that much is the same reason artists boast that they sold X amount of copies. It is self promotion. The average consumer isn't going to fact check that. They see the stat and take it as face value. How does that affect the consumer? If they are telling you they sold millions, the consumer thinks "it sold well, let me check it out". If they check it out and they like it, then that's another fan gained. It's all a part of the hustle.
 
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