Ayo.... How Did No Limit Sell So Many Records?

[Asicz]

Mama Drama (album) - Wikipedia

But they weren't running a scam, and I'm just hating

You definitely fukking are hating tho.

 

[hex]

@hex yeah lol

The album would turn out to be Mia X's most successful album commercially and critically, charting at #7 on the Billboard 200 and #3 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums charts selling 99,223 copies in its first week. The single "What'cha Wanna Do" also found success, making it to #41 on the Billboard Hot 100, 4 on the Hot Rap Tracks and 32 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks. By March 3 2000, the album was certified double platinum selling 2.8 million copies in the U.S. Despite its success this is Mia X's last album with No Limit.

Mama Drama (album) - Wikipedia

Uh....nah homie.

Wiki is notoriously inaccurate when it comes to certifications. The only plaque Mia got is gold for "Unlady Like".

Most of them certifications listed earlier in the thread are 100% false.

Fred.

 

[ThaRealness]

You definitely fukking are hating tho.

Aint no one hating. Im trying to get to the bottom of these fishy numbers

 

[hex]

Aint no one hating. Im trying to get to the bottom of these fishy numbers

No Limit did sell a good amount but most of the numbers listed in the thread are fake. I have no idea where the people that edited Wiki pulled those numbers from....because it's not RIAA.

Fred.

 

[OHSNAP!]

In this thread we are understating and misremembering the LARGE RADIO PRESENCE of No Limit and music video tv station airplay.


In the North East of the USA and Eastern Seaboard No Limit did nget radio play with Make Em Say Uhh and rotation on Music Telvision. Music Industry Publications Master P Silk made covers if The Source and had consistent print advertisement

Silk was going DOUBLE PLATINUM AND HAD A FEATURE ON A MAYA SINGLE.

For SOUTHERN RADIO the lesser popular SILK singles that got limited to no airplay in the North East got Spin in the Southern staes radio.

CITDG and Made Man went platinum both

 

[LJLYDK!]

BS. A few months after his debut on NL dropped, NL popularity fell off

Word? I didn’t check for his albums with no limit on the strength of Doggfather being Wack as fukk. Snoop couldn’t decide if he wanted to be mafioso or what and that album is all over the place

One of them No limit snoop albums got Dre and Quik on it though, is his shyt with them really that bad? Like on the level of doggfather?

just assumed the “Big name” on the label would do the most numbers. Hence saying I assume he carried them. Guess people weren’t fukking with no limit snoop huh? Can’t say I blame em

 

[OHSNAP!]

That's what folks keep saying "X" was the smaller acts, when Slim, Kane & Able first albums pushed numbers.... I remember "Gangstafied" having a huge success. Silk's first album did what? The Shocker did what?? Folks don't even talk about that album, and it's a classic.

Just sayin' there were different tiers. C went from nobody to a star (Tru 2 Da Game) to a superstar (features on Ghetto D. Dropping Life Or Death n beyond)

Biggest stars were P, Snoop, Silkk (Silkk had 2 platinum albums, massive star in the rap scene. P & Snoop went multi plat at least twice, known names in the mainstream. TRU and 504 Boyz were big groups)

Then C and Mystikal (at least 1 platinum album)

Then Fiend, Mia and maybe Kane&Abel and Slim (all went gold in 97 or 98. Features on Make Em Say Uhh, Thinkin Bout U, Woof and Slow Down by P or Snoop. Gangstafied, Imma Shine and Whatcha Wanna Do were minor hits). Bleed too but he was only there for an one-album deal just like Lil Italy

Then Mac, Magic (featured on Wobble Wobble, Down 4 My Ns, on the cusp to better sales n bigger popularity boost in 99/00) and Serv-On

Then the rest (can't expect big numbers out of those. Steady Mobb'n didn't sell much)

 

[OHSNAP!]

Word? I didn’t check for his albums with no limit on the strength of Doggfather being Wack as fukk. Snoop couldn’t decide if he wanted to be mafioso or what and that album is all over the place

One of them No limit snoop albums got Dre and Quik on it though, is his shyt with them really that bad? Like on the level of doggfather?

just assumed the “Big name” on the label would do the most numbers. Hence saying I assume he carried them. Guess people weren’t fukking with no limit snoop huh? Can’t say I blame em

Nah had little to do with Snoop's output. Check out No Limit Top Dogg and Last Meal, both in everyone's top 5 of best Snoop albums, in most top 3's actually behind Doggystyle

 

[OHSNAP!]

It definitely was beautiful. Hearing "I'm A Soldier" and looking at the back case and seeing most of those featured had albums coming out was exciting. I mean, literally if you liked a verse or that artist's style and saw they had an album coming, it was hype. Most labels sucked about dropping albums on time. No Limit stuck to schedule for the most part.

Agreed. Hence why it was so disappointing when so many "upcoming albums" in 99/00 didn't drop (MOTHERfukkING TANK DOGGS!!!)

 

[JustCKing]

Agreed. Hence why it was so disappointing when so many "upcoming albums" in 99/00 didn't drop (MOTHERfukkING TANK DOGGS!!!)

Tank Doggs and the 504 Boyz (P, Silkk, and Mystikal).

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Tank Dogs, should have been just P and Mystikal featuring folks here and there.

Fiend in an interview said him and P were working on some music together, but they didn't finish, he said that they did about 4-6 songs

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Just sayin' there were different tiers. C went from nobody to a star (Tru 2 Da Game) to a superstar (features on Ghetto D. Dropping Life Or Death n beyond)

Biggest stars were P, Snoop, Silkk (Silkk had 2 platinum albums, massive star in the rap scene. P & Snoop went multi plat at least twice, known names in the mainstream. TRU and 504 Boyz were big groups)

Then C and Mystikal (at least 1 platinum album)

Then Fiend, Mia and maybe Kane&Abel and Slim (all went gold in 97 or 98. Features on Make Em Say Uhh, Thinkin Bout U, Woof and Slow Down by P or Snoop. Gangstafied, Imma Shine and Whatcha Wanna Do were minor hits)

Then Mac, Magic (featured on Wobble Wobble, Down 4 My Ns, on the cusp to better sales n bigger popularity boost in 99/00)

Then the rest (can't expect big numbers out of those. Steady Mobb'n didn't sell much)

Pushing 400-700k isn't considered in a tier with no video/radio single?

I would even put Youngbleed in a tier with C if we looking at numbers...His album was well received, especially with the single How you do that

Mr. Marcelo did well, going by what he stated in his interview, he said he hit 300k (I wanna say he said more) and had only one video... Fiend did really well too

Krazy, before he got signed to NL mentioned in an interview that his album sold 75k, folks gotta realize numbers back then were being met, easily especially with the independent labels

Mr. Serv-On jumped out the gate in his first week selling from Life Insurance

Not you, but folks are trying to downplay NL sales. They pretty much had the best roster in the game, outside of CMR, maybe

 

[letti cook]

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[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

No other labels were doing that. Imagine La Face throwing OutKast and Goodie Mob on Toni Braxton and Isher albums and you open the booklets and you see the album covers for Aquemini and Still Standing coming soon. They don't even need a video at that point because millions of people just heard them on those albums and are now checking for those album covers on the shelves.

your mental gymnastics are remarkable.
the way you dance around the shortcomings of your favorites is astonishing.

you really gonna sit up here and act like no limit soldiers got better promotion than outkast & goodie mob??
them dudes would trade in those "coming soon" ads for goodie mob promotion 10 times out of 10. hell, they'd trade it in for cool breeze/slimm calhoun promotion.
f*ckin master p & no limit snoop dogg didnt even have as much promotion as outkast.

and yes, outkast benefited greatly from being on laface and associated with those acts. whenever i point out that they had a big r&b base from day one, people on here get upset.

we really gonna act like outkast & goodie mob werent featured on laface compilations/soundtracks, TLC collabos, etc??? in addition to the erykah badu association. theyre not a platinum act in the '90s without this, but i guess none of this ever existed according to @JustCKing. let him tell it, the gambino family & full blooded received more exposure.

No Limit didn't need that type of exposure because they had artists NO ONE had ever heard of featured on platinum albums with ads inside the booklets of those platinum albums.

Think about all the hype of a new album: album covers, tracklist, features, production credits. With No Limit, you had everything but the tracklist BEFORE the albums dropped. With every album, you knew what it looked like, knew BBTP would be handling the production, and knew most of the roster would be featured BEFORE the album hit shelves.

EVERY label does stuff like that.

why couldnt dungeon family killer mike, slim calhoun, cool breeze, witch doctor, etc have the success of no limit, despite the fact that all those DF guys were pushed harder?
hell goodie mob could never even go platinum with all the promo they had.

This simply isn't true. There was definitely interest in the Southern market before No Limit took off. Why do you think No Limit switched from the Bay making West Coast Bad Boy compilations to making Down South Hustler compilations in 1995? Why do you think the Tank went from pre-dominantly produced K-Lou and DJ Darryl songs to BBTP? P saw the market Down South and went from West Coast centric to Southern centric music. Scarface was platinum before No Limit blew. Kast went platinum twice before No Limit blew. Eightball & MJG were gold. Goodie Mob was gold.

C-Murder was not a star. Fiend vs. Magic arguments only existed if you were a fan of No Limit. This would be different if people were making Fiend vs DMX arguments, but they weren't. Which brings me back to the point about C-Murder, C wasn't sought after and you weren't going to hear a C-Murder verse unless you bought a No Limit album.

im not gonna get into a back-n-forth with you about this. youve never been up-top. i dont know why youre even trying to argue.

im not saying that no limit was the first rappers with a national buzz. im saying that theyre the ones who moved the needle and brought interest to the southern market. if you seriously think groups like 8ball & MJG and the goodie mob made a dent in that aspect, then you just need to sitdown.

scarface is legendary, but he never even moved the needle for other rap-a-lot artists, let alone the south.

lol @ c-murder not being a star, and your logic.
lol @ you trying to tell me who was arguing about what. YOURE NOT FROM UP HERE. people who didnt even like no limit would chime in from the sideline on those arguments

you dont have to be compared to DMX, in order to have a buzz. BARELY ANYBODY was compared to DMX. only active rapper who was able to get that argument was jay-z.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Essentially a lot of Indy artist, (E-40, too short, no limit, shave house, etc) had a barcode system in Texas that allowed them to manipulate numbers.

THIS

but apparently its a conspiracy that master p concocted according to this board.

the coli is crazy.

Come on now, Why would wiki put Steady Mobbin of all groups on the label as selling 700k???

i dont know about 700k but i could def see them going gold easy.

they were one of the first no limit artists that we knew up here, and had one of the big breakthrough singles. that video with master p was in like the top 5 on the rap city top 10. that was like unchartered waters back then.
same with young bleed and im sure he sold more than 700.

I only read the first page so it’s probably already been mentioned

imma say snoop probably carried them though

how old are you??

they pretty much peaked before snoop dropped anything over there.

snoop ran to them. not the other way around.

dudes is like 12 on this board.