Average/****ty players getting overpaid Unappreciation

[jfkennedy]

Probably gonna catch hell for this, but this is why I believe all sports contracts should be incentive laden. A base salary for every player, then with the more you play, more stats you put up, and more impact you make, the more money you make.

I know it will never happen, but theres just too many bums getting overpaid, and theres also a lot who are stuck in bad contracts and getting underpaid for their performances

Dudes would be out for themselves on the court to the max. Moreso than they are now.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

i understand that. so what point are you trying to make...are you saying that coaches would bench players on purpose to keep them from earning their money? perhaps, on occasion, i guess.

there are ways to do it though. have tiers of salaries that players could be signed to, and then increased upon with incentives, not just one flat rate; thats too extreme. hire special arbitrators to travel with the teams to examine if there is fukkery, etc.

I'm sure some coaches will bench players to keep them from getting paid or to guarantee other players do get played.

There's also the flip side of the problem in that by putting in incentives you'll see guys focused more on a certain level of individual production than winning as a team.

 

[SEC Hater]

i understand that. so what point are you trying to make...are you saying that coaches would bench players on purpose to keep them from earning their money? perhaps, on occasion, i guess.

there are ways to do it though. have tiers of salaries that players could be signed to, and then increased upon with incentives, not just one flat rate; thats too extreme. hire special arbitrators to travel with the teams to examine if there is fukkery, etc.

Yeah, when I said everybody gets a base salary I didnt mean the same for everybody, it should be based on experience, position ect. Like a rookies base salary wouldnt be near as much as a 10 year vet at the same position, and a kicker or punter or special teams players base salary wouldnt be as much as much as a offensive or defensive player for obvious reasons. The more important the position and the longer you've been playing = more base salary, if you wanna earn more its all on you and what you do

 

[SEC Hater]

Dudes would be out for themselves on the court to the max. Moreso than they are now.

owners would tell coaches to limit plays for players so they wouldn't have to pay. they kinda do it now. i know when Tebow took over for Denver the receivers were pissed because any incentive bonuses for them went out the window and it wasn't even on them.
im not mad at player contracts gets every penny you can

I'm sure some coaches will bench players to keep them from getting paid or to guarantee other players do get played.

There's also the flip side of the problem in that by putting in incentives you'll see guys focused more on a certain level of individual production than winning as a team.

Never said it was a perfect idea just the most fair for players and teams.

As far as coaches showing favoritism, I don't think that would be a problem, coaches these days are on a very short leash, if they dont do the best they can to win and dont produce wins they can be fired with the quickness. And if a player is unfairly benched he could say fukk it and go somewhere where the system fits him better and make better money anyway.

If a coach puts a better player on the bench because he just likes that player better and loses because of it, then he'll get fired. Owners know more wins = more publicty and asses in the seats, which equals more money

If a player plays like he is obviously out for himself and his own numbers strictly to get pad he can be benched for somebody who would play within the team concept.

The idea would essentially render the salary cap irrelevant, so when players became free agents, they would be much more likely to go to a system that fits them, or go to their hometown team or go to the team they dreamed of playing for when they were growing up, rather than just taking the most money. And it would make these lazy players who actually have the talent to be great actually work for their money and become great.

Overall I think the quality of the games would be much more competitive, and we wouldnt be seeing teams with 20% and 30% winning percentages

 

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[mbewane]

This thread could be filled with Knicks players of the Isiah era don't even know how much Curry was getting paid, but whatever it was it was way too much. IMO the winner is:

 

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Allan Houston

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Never said it was a perfect idea just the most fair for players and teams.

As far as coaches showing favoritism, I don't think that would be a problem, coaches these days are on a very short leash, if they dont do the best they can to win and dont produce wins they can be fired with the quickness. And if a player is unfairly benched he could say fukk it and go somewhere where the system fits him better and make better money anyway.

If a coach puts a better player on the bench because he just likes that player better and loses because of it, then he'll get fired. Owners know more wins = more publicty and asses in the seats, which equals more money

If a player plays like he is obviously out for himself and his own numbers strictly to get pad he can be benched for somebody who would play within the team concept.

The idea would essentially render the salary cap irrelevant, so when players became free agents, they would be much more likely to go to a system that fits them, or go to their hometown team or go to the team they dreamed of playing for when they were growing up, rather than just taking the most money. And it would make these lazy players who actually have the talent to be great actually work for their money and become great.

Overall I think the quality of the games would be much more competitive, and we wouldnt be seeing teams with 20% and 30% winning percentages

 

[23Barrettcity]

i understand that. so what point are you trying to make...are you saying that coaches would bench players on purpose to keep them from earning their money? perhaps, on occasion, i guess.

there are ways to do it though. have tiers of salaries that players could be signed to, and then increased upon with incentives, not just one flat rate; thats too extreme. hire special arbitrators to travel with the teams to examine if there is fukkery, etc.

How about the gm just do they job better?? You putting all the Blame on the player when the gm gets paid to avoid these kind of mistakes

 

[mbewane]

How about the gm just do they job better?? You putting all the Blame on the player when the gm gets paid to avoid these kind of mistakes

IMO GMs take most of the blame in these situations but at some players not having ANY pride in actually trying. I'm not talking about players who have injuries or don't get enough PT because of the coach or see their skills decline because of age or whatever, but about the Eddy Currys and the Jerome Jordans who clearly don't give a flying fukk. Yeah some will applaud their "hustle" but

 

[23Barrettcity]

Never said it was a perfect idea just the most fair for players and teams.

As far as coaches showing favoritism, I don't think that would be a problem, coaches these days are on a very short leash, if they dont do the best they can to win and dont produce wins they can be fired with the quickness. And if a player is unfairly benched he could say fukk it and go somewhere where the system fits him better and make better money anyway.

If a coach puts a better player on the bench because he just likes that player better and loses because of it, then he'll get fired. Owners know more wins = more publicty and asses in the seats, which equals more money

If a player plays like he is obviously out for himself and his own numbers strictly to get pad he can be benched for somebody who would play within the team concept.

The idea would essentially render the salary cap irrelevant, so when players became free agents, they would be much more likely to go to a system that fits them, or go to their hometown team or go to the team they dreamed of playing for when they were growing up, rather than just taking the most money. And it would make these lazy players who actually have the talent to be great actually work for their money and become great.

Overall I think the quality of the games would be much more competitive, and we wouldnt be seeing teams with 20% and 30% winning percentages

What ? This seems kind of racist breh why are you putting the emphasis on the players but no one else. You have 4 teams willing to give brook lopez and hibbert the max now if they don't perform upto a max contract who's to blame ? Not every player is some lazy guy waiting to grt paid injuries happen and the fact that the player isnt sometimes worth a max deal and can only play to a certain level.

 

[23Barrettcity]

IMO GMs take most of the blame in these situations but at some players not having ANY pride in actually trying. I'm not talking about players who have injuries or don't get enough PT because of the coach or see their skills decline because of age or whatever, but about the Eddy Currys and the Jerome Jordans who clearly don't give a flying fukk. Yeah some will applaud their "hustle" but

the gm don't take most of the blame at all . Most people can't even NAme team gms unless it's someone famous curry and Jordan didn't deserve the money they both had no history of being dominant over long periods curry had a heart problem and James had one ok playoff series.

 

[FTBS]

I agree that there should be some sort of incentive however like others have said putting incentives on individual numbers would create more problems than it would solve. I think there should be a winning incentive. Guys should get paid based upon how well the team does. Guys on teams that miss the playoffs should not be making the same as guys on teams that make/win the Finals. Instead you can give each guy a certain base and give them more based upon how far the team advances. For example you can give a $10 million base and then $2 mil for making the playoffs, $2 mil for advancing past the first round, $2 mil for making the conference finals, and so on. I think that would push guys to do what's necessary to win rather than just do what they gotta do to get theirs.

I'm not gonna take teams off the hook they most certainly should make better decisions and be smarter with their money. That said they don't get the same money for putting a sucky team out there as they do for putting a champion out there so why should players get paid the same regardless of how well the team does? Never gonna happen obviously but I think that would be the best system.

 

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how this nikka get the max

 

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Whats even funnier is... I have no idea who the fukk that is breh

Excuse my ignorance. But who is this?