Avengers: Age Of Ultron - Official Thread *Spoilers*
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Kill Dat Noize
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Honest question, do you think its possible for the hulk vs iron buster scene to kind of take the wind out BVS's sails a bit?
because seeing batman take on superman apparently won't be the first time we see a superhero don an armored suit to take on another superpowered superhero.
in fact visually they'll probably have some of the same cues too.
have snyder and co. been beaten to the punch?
because seeing batman take on superman apparently won't be the first time we see a superhero don an armored suit to take on another superpowered superhero.
in fact visually they'll probably have some of the same cues too.
have snyder and co. been beaten to the punch?
No. Because Hulk and Iron Man, while dope, is not the same as seeing Batman and Superman. There's a different iconography. Although it also depends on the buildup and motivations for both fights
Kill Dat Noize
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I know, but it becomes a lot less cool if it's been seen already.
Like that instance where you see the armor mechanically project so that it could block the hulk punch... I imagine snyder goin for the same approach in BVS.
yea it's batman and superman but they risk doing the same exact scene.
I don't think it'll be less cool because of who's involved. This is Batman and Superman breh..we aren't talking about Deadman vs The Question (no diss to either one, love them both) And Batman is a different fighter than Tony so the scene will be different just based on the characters alone
You know I'd never really thought of that but its a fair point.
But, lets be real. Batman v. Superman could get a 0% in rotten tomatoes and it will do a billion. Characters are too iconic. Thats a huge event.
Say what you want about snyder but filming action has never been his weakness.
And if the hulkbuster armour is anything like the comics hulk will rip apart in seconds like he always does
Movie will be 3 hours long. 2h 45 mins of prep time then a 15 min fight
Movie will be 3 hours long. 2h 45 mins of prep time then a 15 min fight
this movie is going to boost the batman fans so hard with that prep time shyt3 things that came to mind after seeing the teaser:
Just going by the trailer I'm going to assume Tony Stark is the one responsible for creating Ultron
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Cap's shield
Just going by the trailer I'm going to assume Tony Stark is the one responsible for creating Ultron
Avengers bout to get that work
Cap's shield
Kill Dat Noize
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well if that is your opinion then who am i to argue it.
but to me it is not even close. the action in man of steel to me felt loud and ugly. it did not capture the awe and wonder of superman. and i thought it was all so poorly shot.
i believe the pictures tell the story.
i mean this shyt is glorious. this is the shyt comic book geekdom was made for.
i've used the following analogy before but allow me to use it again if you were not apart of that discussion.
the action in avengers was a beautiful fireworks display, glorious and wonderful.
the action in man of steel was an M-80, explosive but ultimately forgettable.
Breh its definitely not MY opinion, I got into a debate over that shyt but it made me realize there ARE people that feel that way. I got linked to all the news articles about people crying and getting depression because they couldn't live on Pandora. It was chaos lol
Movie gonna be on some rocky 3 type shyt. That teaser we saw was the whole fight, screen ends when they charge at each other.Movie will be 3 hours long. 2h 45 mins of prep time then a 15 min fight
Norrin Radd
To me, my board!
It is after he(Ultron) completes a mission and is badly damaged. He turns evil after Tony makes a comment about "just making another one" and not even bothering to fix him in the slightest.
What happens that makes him self aware though
It is his programming. Tony makes him so that he can adapt to different situations, so he can learn to fight different opponents with ease. When Tony makes the comment about making another, Ultron takes it as a threat and then begins to realize that the Avengers are useless (in his mind at least)
>how are the twins involved
They are part of Hydra at first, and Hydra form an alliance with Ultron. For Ultron, the alliance provides him access to expendable soldiers and the Twins, which he utilizes until he becomes strong enough to take on the Avengers himself. Hydra believes that Ultron will spare them after he wipes out the rest of humanity. Well, look at the scene where Ultron picks up the robot and squishes its head. Look closely. They both have the same design and Avengers logo on their chests.
There are multiple Ultron machines in the tower, but Tony only uploads the program into one at a time. This one gets destroyed by Thor after he picks Tony up by the neck. Tony says that they will all protect him, even with just a rudimentary AI and Thor tests it out.Basically. He made a single learning AI (Ultron) but because it learns on its own, it can only be in one single machine at a time (movie logic basically). Ultron comes back from a mission badly damaged, Tony says something like "Well, this one is junk, I'll just make another" and leaves Ultron to be "taken out" of this machine. Ultron decides at the last minute to preserve itself and becomes self aware.
Eventually Ultron creates a hive mind of sorts for himself, meaning that he can assume control over ANY Ultron bot in his army at ANY time, which is why he is nearly impossible to destroy in this movie. He eventually gets a permanent body that is super strong and keeps himself in that one body.
>He quits the Avengers because of that guilt, right?
That's who's seat is empty in the interior jet scene in the trailer - it's after the rest of the team finds out that Tony basically caused all of this, that's why they look so upset.
>is Dr.Strange hinted at in this film at all?
Yes, in the form of quick easter eggs. PAY ATTENTION.
>Is he going to be a big player in the civil war?
No clue. I haven't done anything there yet.>>49854144
>Back to Ultron though, where does his personality come from?
He develops it after gaining sentience. He escapes from being dismantled/taken out of his current body.
>Is he literally just raging at Tony for discarding him? That seems a little pedestrian.
At first, yes. The Avengers actually easily defeat him the first time they encounter him, but his program gets put into another form and it escapes, finding Hydra and the Twins.
Here, let me break down a few of the things in the trailer that are relevant here:
>Scene where Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are in the crowd is them sent to incite Banner into Hulking out (notice they are in a city, just like where the Hulk/Hulkbuster fight takes place), this is a distraction for Ultron to break into Stark's lab and steal tech to better himself. SW [frick]s with Banner's mind using her powers and QS provides a distraction for the other Avengers present.
>Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch going to Ultron after is is obviously upgraded is directly following his upgrades. He destroys Hydra but saves the Twins, seeing them as something akin to himself - an experiment and a tool used to further the agendas of other. The ruins around them are a Hydra building.
>Banner and Hawkeye in the woods are the Avengers sent after Ultron/QS/SW/Hydra after the incident in the city, they are there AS Ultron is upgrading himself, which is why he doesn't attack them, it's Hydra attacking them (the Hydra tank in the background)
>Ultron DOES attack them though, right before destroying Hydra's base there. The rest of the Avengers come in to pull them out and see Ultron, realizing that Tony caused this. The scene in the jet (with Banner in a blanket) follows.
>How is the situation solved after Ultron is defeated? What do they do with Tony?
He helps them in the end by creating a virus to mess with the army of Ultron clones. That's the scene with the "This is the end" line. They forgive him but are VERY distrusting of him, which is why he allows the government to step in, setting up Cap 3.
>>49854281
>Does thor buster?
No but it is hinted at. It is one of the numerous reasons that the rest of the team starts distrusting him.
>Overall, how powerful is Ultron?
He starts off as more of a mental threat and gets utterly DESTROYED the first time he encounters the Avengers (the scene where he crushes the head of the other robot) but begins to upgrade himself and slowly take over Stark's other "Ultrons". Eventually he is able to hold his own against pretty much the entire Avengers, even Hulk (who he knocks on his ass at one point)
>Also what does Vision do?
Vision is basically JARVIS put into a real form by Tony as a way for Tony to "be with" the Avengers. He is captured by Ultron and reprogrammed to help him, but eventually he is freed by Tony's virus that [frick]s with Ultron's hold on his robot army. He doesn't turn good until the final big fight in the movie and he helps fight the Ultron army (Vision is the test run for the virus and he helps the Avengers in the final fight as Tony flies to Ultron's "base" (the scene with Iron Man standing in front of a castle/fort) to upload the virus into Ultron's mainframe that connects him to his army)
It's Ultron's AI ****ing with Tony in the last fight scene as Tony tries to upload a virus to Ultron's mainframe. Ultron plays Tony a clip of "the future he helped to birth" The screen pans up from all off the dead Avengers and we see Ultron sitting on a throne. >Now who's throwing the cars at cap? That is the real question my friend
It's Hulk during the scene where SW ****s with Banner's mind. Black Widow is called in because Banner says something about her being able to calm him down.
>wht is hawkguy's "larger role"?
Well, he and Banner go after QS and SW after the Hulk attack, which is a major point in the story.
No, Thor actually destroys a HUGE chunk of the Ultron army in the last fight scene. Black Widow and Banner are good friends but that is it. He still feels guilt for attacking her in Avengers 1 and has been working to recognize her even when he can't control the Hulk, which is why she is called in to calm him when he freaks out.
Hawkeye and Banner are sent to track down QS and SW. Banner initially isn't allowed to go but he convinces them to let him go after Black Widow vouches for him, saying that he won't hurt anyone else.
>>It is much better and the action is more refined. It sets up a lot of things for the future movies (many in easter eggs, some as flat out references Like Black Panther)
He takes her in an frees her + QS from Hydra so the choose to follow him. Up until nearly the end when they see just how destructive Ultron is and QS actually saves Cap (you can see this in the trailer where QS destroys an Ultron bot as it is attacking Cap)
>>49854735
He is getting his new Vibranium skeleton from Wakanda
Oh the pics from WAAAY back when? That's the final battle sequence after QS and SW choose to help the Avengers. The see just how violent Ultron is and decide he is too volatile to follow anymore. Cap mentions Bucky and Widow mentions Falcon.
Tony nearly dies as he is uploading the virus. That's what Cap is doing as he kicks down the door - he and the other Avengers are looking for Tony after they defeat Ultron. He has to get surgery which is why you see the surgical stuff in the trailer
They develop more of a brother/sister relationship, not a romantic one.
>>49854998
>At least answer this -- will we ever see the REAL Mandarin?
Yes.
Alright, **** it He is shown to be a partner of Hydra, they supply the technology, he supplies the troops. He will be a major villain in future movies, namely Dr. Strange.
He is Iron Man's enemy, but his rings will be a major plot point for Dr. Strange.
>>49855176
Rhodey really doesn't have a big role in the movie, he mainly serves as the final little push for Tony to side with the government. Clint gets explained more, and his scenes are more central to the story this time around.
Where'd you get all this from?
Diunx
Probably drunk
well if that is your opinion then who am i to argue it.
but to me it is not even close. the action in man of steel to me felt loud and ugly. it did not capture the awe and wonder of superman. and i thought it was all so poorly shot.
i believe the pictures tell the story.
i mean this shyt is glorious. this is the shyt comic book geekdom was made for.
i've used the following analogy before but allow me to use it again if you were not apart of that discussion.
the action in avengers was a beautiful fireworks display, glorious and wonderful.
the action in man of steel was an M-80, explosive but ultimately forgettable.
Completly agree, the action in The Avengers is beautiful and you can actually see what the characters are doing, MOS on the other hand took the worst elements from modern animes and action films and went to town with it, it was still better than the slow mo bullshyt from 300 tho.