Ava DuVernay's "13TH" Documentary (Out Now)

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This thread is on the brink of devolving into everything that made me stop posting in Higher Learning.
My bad. I'll take the L for even engaging the nikka.

To get back on track the documentary was beautiful. Your girl fukked around and did it again @MartyMcFly id love to support and buy a physical version of this

What's the back and forth and what happened in here? I plan on watching this late tonight or early tomorrow but I'm very very interested. Ava can do no wrong at this point in my eyes
 

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im a supporter of black people. staying at home to punish hillary and allowing trump to put 3+ more scalias on the supreme court to wreak havoc on me and my childrens rights for the next 40 years is not the move.

but keep complaining about hillary while refusing to acknowledge what action can be taken TODAY to do anything.

you are the type of nikka that loves to complain but does nothing and has no solutions for reality. you can complain about hillary all day but you have no solutions of what to do on october 9th. the only solution you have is to complain and do nothing
I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm playing up my support of her but it's obvious she isn't the ideal candidate.

Sorry I don't call my people c00ns for recognizing that remaining at home to punish the democrats and allowing trump to appoint the next three to four Supreme Court members would set black people back decades. Continue to get on your moral pedestal though. nikkas like you are a joke, if you nikkas got in the booth months ago maybe you wouldn't have anything to complain about now.

So again if you want to be educated further meet me in higher learning. This thread is to acknowledge the greatness this woman just dropped.
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From what I've heard of this, doesn't Ava end it by basically saying she's not a huge fan of Hillary and the Clintons based on the 94, but she gives her props for acknowledging the law went way too far? And also would rather have her in office than Trump because she can at least have a conversation about race rather than pretend it doesn't exists and knows the woman based on conversations they've had? Therefore she's voting for her because voting for Trump would set the race back by three or more decades. So does that make her a c00n as well?:jbhmm:


Also, and I know this isn't higher learning but let me drop this: there are many black members of congress and the senate and even our parents who bear a lot to blame on the 94 bill. My friends and I spoke to my dad about it and he and my mom were completely down for it at the time, just like a lot of other black parents who wanted to protect their kids. They moved out of DC to the suburbs just to escape that crime and not have to raise their son in an environment where he could walk down the street and possibly not make it home. He says they didn't foresee the ills that would come from it because they had no way of seeing it coming and that most in the country didn't. They wanted a quick solution and they were afraid and they, along with republicans and democrats -- a lot of members of the CBC and NAACP included -- but pressure on Bill to get something done and be tough.
 

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From what I've heard of this, doesn't Ava end it by basically saying she's not a huge fan of Hillary and the Clintons based on the 94, but she gives her props for acknowledging the law went way too far? And also would rather have her in office than Trump because she can at least have a conversation about race rather than pretend it doesn't exists and knows the woman based on conversations they've had? Therefore she's voting for her because voting for Trump would set the race back by three or more decades. So does that make her a c00n as well?:jbhmm:


Also, and I know this isn't higher learning but let me drop this: there are many black members of congress and the senate and even our parents who bear a lot to blame on the 94 bill. My friends and I spoke to my dad about it and he and my mom were completely down for it at the time, just like a lot of other black parents who wanted to protect their kids. They moved out of DC to the suburbs just to escape that crime and not have to raise their son in an environment where he could walk down the street and possibly not make it home. He says they didn't foresee the ills that would come from it because they had no way of seeing it coming and that most in the country didn't. They wanted a quick solution and they were afraid and they, along with republicans and democrats -- a lot of members of the CBC and NAACP included -- but pressure on Bill to get something done and be tough.
It goes a lot deeper than just "Bill signed the Crime Bill" and "Hillary said super predator"...this shyt has been baked into our legal system for a long time and the whole increase in mass incarceration started long before The Clinton's drove up from Arkansas.
How anyone could watch this documentary and just come out of it with this "fukk the Clintons!" mantra strikes me as a shame because it means they didn't really pay attention to what Ava was trying to say in her doc.
 

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It goes a lot deeper than just "Bill signed the Crime Bill" and "Hillary said super predator"...this shyt has been baked into our legal system for a long time and the whole increase in mass incarceration started long before The Clinton's drove up from Arkansas.
How anyone could watch this documentary and just come out of it with this "fukk the Clintons!" mantra strikes me as a shame because it means they didn't really pay attention to what Ava was trying to say in her doc.

Cats on the coli not paying atrention? I'm shocked
 

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watched it. so much info, I felt like she tried to pack some much in. which I get considering how complex these issues are. I hope they because it was so much info and issues that it wasn't too much for some people.

emotionally, its just...infuriating man. literally makes you want to holler.
 

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"ALEC"...... needs to get exposed something vicious.... :birdman:

Yeah ALEC is fukked up. I remember when I first found about them working with my local NAACP and how they move through the system was shocking.
This Bill Moyer vid was illuminating too:


1st I heard of ALEC was from the Rachel Maddow Show a few years ago
 
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