At Least 8 Dead at Travis Scott's Astroworld Festival After Stampede

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Without drugs this was a nightmare waiting to happen. Festivals have a lot of injuries because of crowds, lax security, and poor planning. And people will always find a way to get drugs into events. I know someone who can get coke on cruise ships and we still haven’t figured out how she’s smuggled other drugs and big things of liquor on board when we travel. I somewhat blame festival goers for not looking out for their own safety, it’s not worth it to be at the front of the stage. And festival planners always hand out a bunch of comp passes and let people in after the fact, that’s an easy way to get drugs in and up your body count by a few hundred or a thousand people. The artists have people sneak things in and their entourages are known for selling passes and drugs. The security fukked up, the landowners are really about to screwed. All events at NRG stadium are about to go way up in price to cover the lawsuits and for them to pay higher insurance rates.
No amount of security is going to stop 80k people from essentially rioting. The only thing that could happen was to cancel the show once they saw people rush the gates but that would’ve just caused an even worse riot/stampede. There was no recourse for the artist. What happened was going to happen no matter what because that was the intent of the people who started it. The fact is responsibility falls on the people that went to the show. If the venue had the required personnel, then there’s nothing to be done. Any lawsuit will be civil because that’s just about the optics. No criminal or negligence charges will be made if they were staffed appropriately with EMS.
 

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I’m legit wondering if ur trolling or drunk cuz u a decent poster for the most part

Live Nation & Travis Scott is the sole promoter of the event, who else would be responsible ?

the Cac who owns the Texans and NRG stadium who’s probably in Switzerland drinking wine :dahell:
2 days later and nobody blaming travis or even the venue it's being classified as a fan stampede

told you to calm down Karen
 

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The artist and venue will be responsible for providing inadequate security. I think the concert goers should have used more common sense but people go crazy at these events. Security should have handled the entrances better for the first stampede. When they saw how manic the crowd was they could have called in More security or off duty officers to get there within an hour. Live Nation (AEG?) doesn’t want this on their hands so they’re going to blame Travis and his management team, they’re going to blame the facility. Someone cut some corners to save money and it always shows.
I can’t speak for stadiums but as a former special events planner, you aren’t legally required to provide security staff. So you can’t be held criminally liable for inadequate security. Civilly, you can held responsible for anything so that isn’t saying much. Insurance will take all these blows regardless.
 

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That ugly mothafukka Travis is a huge piece of shyt…

U couldn’t pay me to go to festivals like this too many unhinged cornballs on drugs the retarded-ness and selfish-ness of people knows no bounds

I like some of this dude songs but was never able to get into him fully because of the element he enables and attracts
 
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I can’t speak for stadiums but as a former special events planner, you aren’t legally required to provide security staff. So you can’t be held criminally liable for inadequate security. Civilly, you can held responsible for anything so that isn’t saying much. Insurance will take all these blows regardless.
I’m a former camera woman who used to work a lot of festivals and events throughout Texas, Florida, and sometimes Georgia. You’re right, you’re not legally required to have security but there’s always some kind of agreement in place between the facility and the artists/promoters. I’ve taped NASCAR events that had way more people and are totally prone to rampages, large fights, and drug dealing. They will hire a shot ton of security and exploit the police unions to get as many off duty folks on the premises as possible. When the shooting happened in Vegas no one panicked at first because white people go ham at these events so hearing gunshots/fireworks/whatever they thought it was is the norm. The facility and promoters could have done a better job.
 

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bytch ass nicca and his team all acting like it's a mystery why people died. "We will help them get to the bottom of this :mjcry:".

We know what happened you fukking idiot we got the footage.
I mean there have been zero deaths at a travis concert and they are always rowdy so it's unfair to expect travis to know people were dying. People get carted by ambulances damn near every show so he probably didn't know the extent of what has happening.
 

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I mean there have been zero deaths at a travis concert and they are always rowdy so it's unfair to expect travis to know people were dying. People get carted by ambulances damn near every show so he probably didn't know the extent of what has happening.
Son the nikka got someone paralyzed at another one of his his concerts because he INCITES this type of shyt. fukk him I see u fukk wit boy heavy but that nikka a weirdo and he ain’t even talented like that. He a fraud.
 

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That ugly mothafukka Travis is a huge piece of shyt…

U couldn’t pay me to go to festivals like this too many unhinged cornballs on drugs the retarded-ness and selfish-ness of people knows no bounds

I like some of this dude songs but was never able to get into him fully because of the element he enables and attracts
Bro. Dude’s whole history is shytty. He ain’t EVER been shyt bro. He rebranded himself but the stripes always eventually show.
 
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The optics look worse and worse :francis:

That random camera man couldn’t do shyt but this looks real bad man. Heads are going to roll with this one. Good luck to the future of these festivals. A lot of these people are going to get priced out more than they have been anyway. Astroworld is going to cost a grip to continue if it continues. He might have to move it to another city or state.
 
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