ask me about any fighter from 1996-2010

[Cole Cash]

Thoughts on Montell Griffin??

let me get to the others mentioned, im doing these in order my friend, but ill let you know.

 

[patscorpio]

@Cole Cash oh yeah i def have comments for your comments on the fighters i asked when you are finished...its the least i can do...and this

Alot of why i bring up these anecdotal things is so you guys know i really did watch these fights, alot of nikkas on the internet lie their asses off and just boxrec or youtube someone, but i love the sport so much. I watched all i could and i got a great memory for it.

is realer than real deal holyfield ..i too do this on occasion

 

[Cole Cash]

also


Randall Bailey
Devon Alexander
Sergio Martinez

Randall Bailey is like Red Cafe, somehow hes still around after all these years and getting a win here and there. Real talk i still remember him hilariously knocking out (WHO) mike jones (WHO) which i was a little suprised because Bailey isnt exactly fukking young and had just lost to that bum Juan "Dr Dre" Urango. That nikka urango built like a fukking brickhouse. Bailey i remember being very fukking sloppy who really liked to throw alot of big shots, ill be honest i ddint watch that much of him, but he would always pop up on boxingscenes news feed or on tv but when i did see him, again, i remember he would constantly throw off balance shots he reminded me alot of aother fighter i cant name right now when i remember ill let you know.

Devon Alexander, man that guy had a style that i did not enjoy at all but sometimes i would just force myself to watch his shyt. The only thing i have to say is that he knocked the fukk out of juan urango on a night where i left the tv on in my apartment and i was so high on opiates while trying to do my player on 2k10, i was VERY suprised. Im not joking, i left the other tv on and before i could change the channel Urango was on the fukkin canvas. This was back when 2k had this release with derek rose called "draft combine" they only did it one year, well i was playing my draft combine player (so fukking boring worst purchase i ever made) Him and Corey Spinks were guys i just didint enjoy watching at all.

Infact lets talk about corey spinks getting knocked the fukk out by zab judah real quick lmao. this nikka came out to nelly, thought he was swaggin to the maximum, jumping up and down, just c00nin his way into the ring, judah was walking back and forth all pissed off and shyt, and judah proceeded to beat this nikkas ass and stop him. Alexander and Spinks i think had the same trainer and i never liked dude, seemed like one of them dudes that wanted to be ALL UP IN THE RING, ALL UP IN THE CAMERA. Also he lost to Mathysse, i stand by my opinion, Lucas was robbed.

 

[Newzz]

Randall Bailey is like Red Cafe, somehow hes still around after all these years and getting a win here and there. Real talk i still remember him hilariously knocking out (WHO) mike jones (WHO) which i was a little suprised because Bailey isnt exactly fukking young and had just lost to that bum Juan "Dr Dre" Urango. That nikka urango built like a fukking brickhouse. Bailey i remember being very fukking sloppy who really liked to throw alot of big shots, ill be honest i ddint watch that much of him, but he would always pop up on boxingscenes news feed or on tv but when i did see him, again, i remember he would constantly throw off balance shots he reminded me alot of aother fighter i cant name right now when i remember ill let you know.

Devon Alexander, man that guy had a style that i did not enjoy at all but sometimes i would just force myself to watch his shyt. The only thing i have to say is that he knocked the fukk out of juan urango on a night where i left the tv on in my apartment and i was so high on opiates while trying to do my player on 2k10, i was VERY suprised. Im not joking, i left the other tv on and before i could change the channel Urango was on the fukkin canvas. This was back when 2k had this release with derek rose called "draft combine" they only did it one year, well i was playing my draft combine player (so fukking boring worst purchase i ever made) Him and Corey Spinks were guys i just didint enjoy watching at all.

Infact lets talk about corey spinks getting knocked the fukk out by zab judah real quick lmao. this nikka came out to nelly, thought he was swaggin to the maximum, jumping up and down, just c00nin his way into the ring, judah was walking back and forth all pissed off and shyt, and judah proceeded to beat this nikkas ass and stop him. Alexander and Spinks i think had the same trainer and i never liked dude, seemed like one of them dudes that wanted to be ALL UP IN THE RING, ALL UP IN THE CAMERA. Also he lost to Mathysse, i stand by my opinion, Lucas was robbed.

I agree with everything you said except Draft Combine was only $5 breh...it was worth it and Matthysse.







Funny that your reactions for Bailey, Alexander, and Spinks (I was a Judah stan back then) are all the same reactions I remember having back then



I hate Alexander & Spinks too and both are trained by Kevin Cunningham as you mentioned

 

[Cole Cash]

Sergio Martinez was a guy i loved watching because later in his career he just came into his own and it really makes you wonder how he lost to that bum ass cheating fukk antonio margarito. Martinez was like Duran during the late stages of Durans career where he would use his upper body movement to lure you in and counter. He had decent footwork, but again sometimes his shots seemed off balance and alot of that had to do with how he would just drop his hands and rely on his quickness. His win over Cintron was actuallyt he first time i saw him, Cintron is a bum, real talk. I remember reading on boxing talk how cintron was breaking ribs in sparring before he fought margarito on espn's only ppv (which used daddy yankee in its ads, for sure the reason why it failed). Anyhow his win over Pavlik really cemented him to me as a top guy but the problem for me was that he was chasing those big money paydays that were never gonna happen, mayweather had no business in there with a legit 160lber and neither did pac roids or not, Pac had all he could handle at 154 fighting an easy bum like marg (who at that point had no more plaster to help him lmao). Anyways. The Paul Williams fight I haven't seen since I saw it in 09 and I legit can't remember who I felt won. I think I remember Sergio getting robbed but my memory Is faulty on that one. I just remember the pavlik beating an the Williams knockout. I saw the cotto fight live at a bar and Martinez looks finished but he had a great career when a lot of guys could have just called it quits. I liked dude.

 

[Cole Cash]

I agree with everything you said except Draft Combine was only $5 breh...it was worth it and Matthysse.







Funny that your reactions for Bailey, Alexander, and Spinks (I was a Judah stan back then) are all the same reactions I remember having back then



I hate Alexander & Spinks too and both are trained by Kevin Cunningham as you mentioned

It was only 5? I don't remember. I was buying a lot of dlc at the time. So I just remember not enjoying it.

Anyone who liked hip hop was a Judah stan. Judah seen like the type of nikka to win a title and rush out cuz he's late for a dice game on some corner in crown heights

 

[krackdagawd]

Thread is dope as hell enjoy reading it

How do you feel about the current #1 p4p fighter krackda.......Andre Ward

 

[ShotgunSoto]

Juan Manuel Marquez

 

[Cole Cash]

Thread is dope as hell enjoy reading it

How do you feel about the current #1 p4p fighter krackda.......Andre Ward

Im skipping ahead a little bit because i been busy this week, but ward is a hometown hero homie, ill go in depth on him tommorow as promised,

 

[patscorpio]

Vernon Forrest. This was a guy i actually watched get beat in the olympics against some russian whom i didint know was kostya tszyu cuz that wasnt his damn name lmao. The matchup seems laughable now, but forrest was like the last guy on planet earth you wanted to fight. See the thing is, guys would go on and on about paul williams, Forrest faught tall, his jab, his cross and his overall vicious personality this guy was all fukking business. You have to understand this guy was PLAGUED by injury to that shoulder. To the point where i remember steward saying he couldnt even pick up his bag properly anymore . His domination over shane mosley i never watched because i was knee deep in the shyt at the time in the war on terror. i didint hear about it until come new coms guy told me mosley took a brutal beating i was suprised but i wasnt because mosley jumped two weight classes and Forrest was clearly a bigger guy, but it also told me mosleys power must not have carried. Also you wanna know something hilarious i remmeber this comms dude

one time were in kahndahar and we had to repaint some stupid building because some general some where wanted some building a new color, so because im air force security forces aka janirotial/infantry/sandbag filler while we were talking about this fight (i had been there for some time at that point he was new) he relays the order while were talking about it. This whiteboy then proceeds to start painting with us (he was a goddamn weirdo) and halfway sniffing fukking pain sayin "I GET HIGH HIGHH HIIIIGH" this NCO walks in (an army one i dont know the rank, he actually wasnt under my command but it dont matter, rank is rank) he says "WTF ARE YOU DOING THERES STYLE P?" YOU, (Says my real last name) YOU SNIFFING PAINT TOO BOY? YOU LISTENING TO I GET HIGH TOO WITH HIM?"

"No sir i am not sir"

"WELL CARRY ON" and he just walks off. It was a clear moment of obvious comedy that ill never forget.

Anyhow, i got back home and i heard he had lost to someone i never heard of named ricardo mayorga. I had no idea who the fukk that was to be honest and i couldnt understand how this guy lost. I didint see the fight and this is 03, no torrents, no youtube. Anyhow, i saw the rematch and he DID NOT look the same. At all, he clearly needed some time off. Mayorga was a trash fighter to me but he was hilarious, i speak spanish so his comments were endlessly entertaining to me. Dude was the epitome of a club fighter who overachived due to just being fukking funny. The nikka lit a ciggarette after the fight or some shyt. Anyhow it hurt me to see forrest like this, when he bounced back i was so happy, his test fight against baldomir was vicious, baldomirs kids were in the car watching their dad get 3-0 bodybagged by this nikka forrest. im like "HE BACK HE BACK". He then fought glorified pauli jr aka sergio mora who i fukking hate to this day and i think hes on the downlow. I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND that loss. I dont know and have no explanation for that. His rematch though i remember he beat the breaks off that nikka. "latin snake" gay bruh. Anyhow his death was painful, Forrest was well loved in the boxing world, also there is something you guys need to understand

Forrest, healthy is the ONE GUY along with Wright i could have seen mayweather actually losing to. Unlike de la hoya forrest fought tall and was consistent with that jab, he could keep it in your face and he was taller than mayweather. I legtiimately pick Vernon to beat mayeather prime for prime and im dead serious.

man it was a hot summer breh..2009...shyt was too hot bruh....how vernon got got hurt my heart a little...vernon-shane is the perfect example of a fighter having your number...it was crazy to watch vernon just whipping on shane like he was doing drills on the heavy bag..and shane was like top 3-5 p4p easy when this shyt happened...and even more shocking when mayorga had his number....boxing is funny like that

at your latin snake slander....its funny how no one seems to like this dude ...i hated watching him fight on the contender back in the day....my take on the first vernon-mora fight was vernon was overconfident and didnt train right...the perfect storm...but he did put foot to his ass in the rematch... it was his last fight though

 

[patscorpio]

Lamon Brewster aka CAC destroyer. I saw that fight against Wlad and i laughed my fukkin ass off. Thing is, brewster was so limited, im not gonna lie its been so long since i got a good look at him i legit only remember him beating wlad and then taking a SEVERE beating from this russian who really impressed men Sergei Liahovich i think his name is. I dont know why i really liked that white boys style, the way he beat brewster really impressed me, i then remember he rematched Wlad and Wlad beat the shyt out of him but by then he was him full wlad mode aka JAB N HOLD so brewster who i remember just being very sloppy and throwing wild haymakers lost. I still to this day have a fight on my drive thats not in english where he fought this german cat and really put a good beating on him, it was a solid win, i dont remember much though. brewster just was at a time i didint enjoy heavyweight boxing, but he had power so fukk it i would check it if i could.

i honestly didnt think lamon would ever get to the level he got to...dude had clear losses to a dude who's more known for playing foreman in ali rather than being an actual boxer and to a notorious chinny headcase..that first fight with wlad was funny...this was around the time in my life i started really packing on the muscle...i was watching the fight with my father and my uncle...my dad, who trained as a boxer when he was in college back in the early 70s, was not a fan of bodybuilder physiques...it was always lean and mean..and as wlad started gassing early from the work he was handing out..my dad is like " you see all that muscle he is carrying around..thats no good..he can barely keep his arms up..dont be surprised if he gets stopped" and then tried to use that as a cautionary tale for me to not get like wlad ..but then im like "what about lamon?" ...my dad was like "he can take punches" ....in the era where byrd and ruiz were less than stellar champions to watch

enjoyed the hell out of his fights during his reign...the vulnerability factor combined with his offensive arsenal...nearly losing the belt to kali meehan in his first title defense, wiped out golota with ease where byrd and ruiz struggled, and damn near had to almost kill luan krasniqi in germany where the german promoters and especially the ref really tried his best to get the title off him with the bullshyt...that fight with liakhovich ...first off i didn't think that a guy that mo harris whipped with ease would even be competitive and it would be a blowout...mean ebb and flow throughout that fight..it was fukking incredible how much punishment they dished out..liakhovich rose to the occasion but of course that fight ruined both of them..lof course finding out later lamon went in there with eye problems and there was other bullshyt that he couldn't postpone or something like that..they were shot to pieces...still the last classic heavyweight title fight to date IMO..and it was on a freeview weekend so it was even more of a win

 

[Knicksman20]

also

Juan Diaz
Randall Bailey
Devon Alexander
Sergio Martinez

His fight with that Mongolian bruh Lakva Sim was good. I heard Sim was injured but still fought on. When Sim through Ebo Elder to the bushes

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Muthafukkas (i.e Mexicans) were MAD AS fukk down here when Diaz lost to Nate Campbell I watched that fight live at a BBQ with some friends and they peoples

Baby Bull being the Texas kid and throw in some good old fashioned boxing race tensions made for a classic night

All of my black homeboys were like

My ese potnas looking like

I won't lie I didn't see Diaz losing to Campbell back then, but a young nikka underestimated Nate's heart and determination. Galaxxy Warrior wanted that fight bad

 

[Lurking Class Hero]

Cole Cash,

I'd love to hear your thoughts on:

Calzaghe

Jeff Lacy

Young Hopkins (youngish Hopkins, he was born in 65 lol)

Edison Miranda

Jermain Taylor

 

[Cole Cash]

His fight with that Mongolian bruh Lakva Sim was good. I heard Sim was injured but still fought on. When Sim through Ebo Elder to the bushes

im gonna resume this thread today. but ebo elder had the fukking nerve to claim diaz was either scared or duckin him. that emo christian got slept on the contender in like 1 round. smh..