Asians dominating in Math, Science and Reading, Americans lagging behind

[Huellz Santana]

@phourtay i do see your point too. don't get me wrong, America has a lot of educational problems it needs to fix.

but i would bet our top students/scientists/etc. against the rest of the world any day.

its just our dumb people are REALLY dumb and as a society we don't really discourage idiocy or try to fix it. But the issue is really complex and hard to fix.​

 

[Midrash]

I don't think its an education problem, I think its a POVERTY problem that's at the root of everything.

I do believe America still has the best education system in the world. I admit that we aren't perfect but we are the best simply because we educate EVERYONE regardless of class, race, immigration status, learning disability or even English proficiency. Other countries like China won't let you even receive an education if you have a learning disability.

Despite the fact that the AVERAGE is low, our ceiling is a hell of a lot higher than most other countries. We have 83 of the top 400 Universities in the world. Considering the fact that half of all Harvard undergrads have parents that make a combined income over $200,000, I think money is the reason why we score so low ON AVERAGE.

 

[Poitier]

I don't think its an education problem, I think its a POVERTY problem that's at the root of everything.

I do believe America still has the best education system in the world. I admit that we aren't perfect but we are the best simply because we educate EVERYONE regardless of class, race, immigration status, learning disability or even English proficiency. Other countries like China won't let you even receive an education if you have a learning disability.

Despite the fact that the AVERAGE is low, our ceiling is a hell of a lot higher than most other countries. We have 83 of the top 400 Universities in the world. Considering the fact that half of all Harvard undergrads have parents that make a combined income over $200,000, I think money is the reason why we score so low ON AVERAGE.

Top of the line education isn't distributed equally in America. We shouldn't compare ourselves to China because they don't even have a fully fleshed out middle class. Privatizing grade school education to the extent we have is a shame and overfunding college education has turned universities into corporations. As a product of a Georgia public school education, I can tell you that most Southern and Midwestern curriculums are an embarrassment. Northeastern and Western schools are significantly further when you look at these aptitude test but the Bible belt and Rust belt brings the averages way down. It's no mistake that those regions are Conservative since we know more educated people tend to lean Liberal but that's another discussion for another time... Most of it can be chalked up to the state governments not thinking education is a sound expenditure to put much money into it.

We should also be teaching our students financial literacy, how to create small businesses and trade skills. I will be doing this with my kids regardless of what the school decides between here and then.

 

[Yakno1]

Top of the line education isn't distributed equally in America. We shouldn't compare ourselves to China because they don't even have a fully fleshed out middle class. Privatizing grade school education to the extent we have is a shame and overfunding college education has turned universities into corporations. As a product of a Georgia public school education, I can tell you that most Southern and Midwestern curriculums are an embarrassment. Northeastern and Western schools are significantly further when you look at these aptitude test but the Bible belt and Rust belt brings the averages way down. It's no mistake that those regions are Conservative since we know more educated people tend to lean Liberal but that's another discussion for another time... Most of it can be chalked up to the state governments not thinking education is a sound expenditure to put much money into it.


We should also be teaching our students financial literacy, how to create small businesses and trade skills. I will be doing this with my kids regardless of what the school decides between here and then.

Good post

 

[Midrash]

Top of the line education isn't distributed equally in America. We shouldn't compare ourselves to China because they don't even have a fully fleshed out middle class. Privatizing grade school education to the extent we have is a shame and overfunding college education has turned universities into corporations. As a product of a Georgia public school education, I can tell you that most Southern and Midwestern curriculums are an embarrassment. Northeastern and Western schools are significantly further when you look at these aptitude test but the Bible belt and Rust belt brings the averages way down. It's no mistake that those regions are Conservative since we know more educated people tend to lean Liberal but that's another discussion for another time... Most of it can be chalked up to the state governments not thinking education is a sound expenditure to put much money into it.

We should also be teaching our students financial literacy, how to create small businesses and trade skills. I will be doing this with my kids regardless of what the school decides between here and then.

I noticed this a lot too. The students that come from up north tend do do a lot better than the sourthern students at my university. There are some smart sourthern born students at my college but majority are outliers, immigrants or people who came from wealthy southern families near cities.

My dad even wanted to transfer me out to where he stayed at for high school out in the country but I declined strongly. If you would have seen the quality of education, you would have made the same decision as well. The school didn't care about their low performing academics because they had students who because really good sports superstars at the state level. I don't hate sports and I think its important for students to be physically active but academics shouldn't have to suffer at the expense of a field goal. My cousin was a football and basketball social rockstar and he would brag constantly about how they didn't do shyt all semester in a lot of his classes. He still made A's and B's in school. (He ended up dropping out of college after the first year after the workload was too difficult for him)

Also I've noticed teachers down here tended to be too conservative for their own good.
I have no problem with conservatives but when your teachers are very religious political conservatives ALA Bachmann or Rick Perry style, it doesn't breed or foster critical thinking. The only time they encourage serious inquiry is when it comes to questioning any liberal position while accepting all conservative positions at face value. My cousin told me about his report he did for environmental science where they wrote reports explaining why man made global warming was "made up".