As it turns out, illegal immigrants DO have rights!

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People seem to think that the Bill of Rights grants rights, it doesn't, it literally stops the government from infringing on these "natural rights" that the Founders claim came from the "creator" or "nature"

Why do you put natural rights in quotation? they're an actual thing that are endowed to mankind because of consciousness, it doesn't necessarily imply a god gave it to them. The founders weren't even christians.

Contextually, the bill of rights is remarkable and the philosophers that helped influence it, like Thomas Paine, are some of the greatest men to have ever lived.

Paine especially was one of the most progressive thinkers of his day and famously made the quote "The world is my country and to do good is my religion"
 

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Receive what?

Have you ever lived abroad? If so where?

I'm interested in learning about your experience...
You asked who deserves to have basic human rights as though no one was suggesting Illegal immigrants shouldn't. I gave you Cac Mamba's post staying that they are welcome to have basic human rights in their home country. Ya'll figure it out. :manny:
 

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Why do you put natural rights in quotation? they're an actual thing that are endowed to mankind because of consciousness, it doesn't necessarily imply a god gave it to them. The founders weren't even christians.

Contextually, the bill of rights is remarkable and the philosophers that helped influence it, like Thomas Paine, are some of the greatest men to have ever lived.

Paine especially was one of the most progressive thinkers of his day and famously made the quote "The world is my country and to do good is my religion"
I don't believe in the concept of "natural rights" I don't think nature or a creator endows rights.
Thats why I put it in quotations.
 

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Have you ever lived abroad? If so where?

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London, Dublin, Puerto Aventuras.. What's your point?

Edited for ones where I was there for work or an extended amount of time.
 

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thats still begs the question, why are you caping for illegal immigrants?
It isn't even caping. It's just pointing out that illegal aliens still benefits form the protections of our constitution. Despite their illegal status I will stand by what makes America, America and that's our constitution.

Why are you fighting against the constitution so hard? Are you unamerican? :jbhmm:
 

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It's very telling that people arguing only certain people should have rights don't know the end game of that argument taken to it's logical conclusion.

They are not citizens of the USA and no they should not benefit from the USA or be protected by USA law...

They are criminals...they broken the law and violated the USA borders...I don't get what is so hard to understand about that....

So yeah...they should be quickly given a trial and get kicked out...

Citizenship should mean something...supporting open borders and breaching of national boundaries is ridiculous...
 
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