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As a nation, Jamaica is the most influential music nation outside of the USA
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IllmaticDelta
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Since we know the New York Cuban Mambo Big bands layed the foundation for Nuyorican salsa, what do you think is the difference technically between the two?
Cuban Mambo band
Nuyorican salsa
One thing a lot of people forget when talking about Jamaicans and rap music is that west Indians for the most part wasn't fukking with rap, just like a lot of older black Americans until the late '80's. Anyone who is from Brooklyn remembers west Indians not liking rap music or older black americans saying "turn that bip bap noise off". Even krs-one said " the dreads in Brooklyn was crazy. You couldn't bring out your set with no hip hop because the pistols would go..".. He's telling the truth and I remember it that's why I could never understand the teaching that they created the foundations of hip hop because that means, people who were part of west Indian culture did the hip hop thing or around those who did it, and I know that rarely happened, and vice versa for people who were into disco and funk.
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breh what are u saying theres coke and trees in cuba now its just trash but ppl are getting it out there and what u mean it aint no guns
no it aint no new shyt but i know for a fact that its guns on the street cuz a few years ago like '10 a military caravan got robbed of all its weapons and all them shyts is floating around havana it may not be new guns but they'll shoot ya dead with them old ass east german pistols 
you think its still like 1980 mariel status out there but its really not im going in august and when i said i was going back to my hood (luyano) they straight up told me 
you dont wanna be there breh 
clowns bringing up cuba as if that shyt is as world wide as reggae is 
clowns bringing up cuba as if that shyt is as world wide as reggae is
the world isnt centered around english speakers u dumb fakkit u mad your thread got hijacked
I didn't say that.
But clearly you're bugging if you think reggae ain't getting spins in central and south america too
of course it is, and i do agree with you that jamaica should be the top but callin us clowns cuz we in here with a valid opinion?
And you're bugging when you're calling people clowns for bringing up a country who's international musical influence's pre-date Reggae 'getting spins' by hundred of years. The Cuban example just proves how farcical the 'influential' debate is, after years of pioneering they just happen to stop being 'influential' when the entire country & all it's exports get blackballed in the western world?
Genre's traveling internationally is obviously not just a simple case of being a testament to the musical ingenuity of the people in the country of its origin, like some people here are portraying.
breh what are u saying theres coke and trees in cuba now its just trash but ppl are getting it out there and what u mean it aint no guns
I'm happy your going in August enjoy yourself. I'm going to carnival in Santiago ( my hometown) where it could really go there but come on there will not be a gun out there unless it's the police. Again saying there's some drugs out there and an isolated armed robbery occurred does not mean that the average Cuban in the roughest neighbor is banging hammers. It's just not happening. And I know of incidents too but people do not get shot in Cuba point blank period. They will bring the machetes out though and it's common for dudes to get sliced up.
Back to rappers.... Aldeano who posted up does not talk about guns or drugs, so I'm not sure why you used him as an example. And if you got a video of any and I mean ANY rapper in Cuba talking about hammers and moving weight I would really love to see it.
IllmaticDelta
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Alot of that was true for older west indians and black americans but the younger generation of west indians were up on what came to be HipHop. I remember reading an interview where Herc clearly states that younger Jamaican Americans around his way in those times wasn't trying to hear Reggae music.
The answer to that is simple. Herc is of Jamaican descent and since many people that tell the story of HipHop, point to Herc's 1973 party as the day it was born, that's what gets repeated over and over but If you do the research, you'll see that the history is false and the story of hiphop is more layered and complex than that.
armed robberies aint an isolated thing, and u know people steal guns from military conscription and all sorts of shyt so I dont know why u think its like a stone age situation over there, some nikkas got xboxes and top notch recording studios now
but they cant get there hands on a revolver if they really tried u dont have to tell me about the crime situation out there youll catch a machete to the dome real quick just like another caribbean country u tryna to make it seem like i said people are having shootouts and shyt like in PRand back to music yea u maybe right idk aldo 2 much i just got put onto him recently but dont front like guaperia and bullshyt isnt in our dna that but eddy k right now talking about i got white and green for you and gente de zona is the most poppin shyt out right now
edit: CIA database apparently backing both our claims, there are guns held by civilians but apparently they dont use em, 500 homicides average a year and only 27 of them with firearms
