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[marcuz]

I place no false blame on Black men. You,

except when we're talking about "black male privilege" and "black patriarchy"

 

[Elle Driver]

Quote where I said "black men more often than not put down Black women's accomplishments"

I place no false blame on Black men. You, and your male counterparts (just think about the fact for a second that 100% of the time your viewpoints are in agreeance with men who think women are incapable of logic and require male leadership to not ruin themselves) , just equate placing false blame on Black men with saying they are responsible for anything.



Nope.



Definitely not I love my daddy. And I'm almost 100% certain I had a greater foundation in growing up than the majority of you who spout the nonsense you spout. If you had seen a functional relationship between men and women growing up, you wouldn't have such disdain for or a need to subvert the opposite sex to feel better about yourself.

Yeah, okay.

I'm not gonna go tit for tat with you.

 

[PartyHeart]

except when we're talking about "black male privilege" and "black patriarchy"

You and your buddies never answered how its possible for poor whites to have privilege because they are white but its impossible to have male privilege because you are Black. You always seem to disappear from threads when I ask.

Many of you even sympathize with white women and acknowledge sexism when they face it, only to turn around and say Black women don't have any legit claims about facing sexism Basically spitting in the face of Black women and an entire half of our struggle. Its a shame when you can muster up more empathy for the mothers and daughters of the men you hate, than your own mothers and daughters.

And this is on top of the constant attacks on Black women's physical appearance, "attitudes", and plus all the demeaning and subjugating things you all say about women in general.

Yet you same folks will call feminism what's dividing the community. Y'all have zero respect for Black women, don't care about our unique issues (more often than not you blame us for everything that we go through) but then have a problem with a movement that puts those issues at the forefront when you refuse to.

 

[godkiller]

There's nothing outlandish about my posts. The women who you "agree" with are routinely on the same side saying the same things as me in debates when Black women are being attacked on here. Debates that they speak up in and I ironically never see you in. The reason you call my posts outlandish is because I identify as a feminist, and you are trying your hardest to fit in with the men on here who hate feminism.

Thats what I find to be truly outlandish, because at least you can say they oppose feminism because it is something that attempts to take their privilege as males away. What exactly are you gaining from being vocally opposed beyond attention from internet men

You are the same poster that framed a post as anti-black woman, merely because the post in question suggested that black kids--as opposed to merely black girls--could and should benefit from coding groups. Your posts on these issues seem incendiary, adversarial and resentful. You asserted that black men were somehow taking away from the black women who started the black coding group by suggesting that black kids could benefit from the works. You feminists are tards.

 

[PartyHeart]

And this article doesn't even concern me anyway. I'm not even sure what the discussion was about for me to end up being @'ed and attacked.

 

[PartyHeart]

You are the same poster that framed a post as adversarial and anti-black woman, merely because the post in question suggested that black kids--as opposed to merely black girls--could and should benefit from coding groups. You do indeed have a proclivity for ridiculous posts.

Everyone in that thread with sense that isn't anti-Black female took that poster's post the same way I did and actually ended up going in on him because of it long after I exited the thread. He took an amazing program for Black girls and tried to make it into something negative and bad for the Black community, even going so far as to suggest it was created by white people when it was indeed created by a Black woman.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

lol, its always funny reading the first page then fast forwarding to the last page to see the dramatic thread turn.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

*reads leadership*

*scans post for the word "money"*

*finds nothing*

here we go with this mythical leadership role again. how are friends going to stand up and lead their communities, when they're not even leading their own homes.

This the coli breh. The average salary here is 200k. Matter fact just last week you posted this:

here ya go, @yo moms. although it doesn't really matter what you believe

Stacks of hundreds. Bank statement with over 100k in it. So obviously money ain't the issue since you got it more than the majority of people in this country.

Which leads me to wonder why with all of your money, swag, and alpha maleness aren't you leading your community? You're upset at black women wearing weaves right? I wonder if you're gonna take even some of that money and invest it into a fashion show where you have all black models with natural hair ?

Matter fact, you alone probably have more money than Dr. King, Malcolm X, Kwame Ture, Medgar Evars, and Marcus Garvey put together.

inception level c00ning or you're crazy

The fact you think I'm c00ning is the difference between how we think. Growing up my pops taught me if you see a problem, fix it. My pops brought mad dudes from Jamaica to Brooklyn to work for him. Kids who he didn't owe shyt to. He paid their ticket, helped em get on their feet, and encouraged them to ultimately start their own businesses and bring over other cats. He also would send barrels full of clothes, shoes, and food to jamaica multiple times a year. He even opened up a chicken and vegetable farm in Kingston to help provide food and income for the poorer areas of where he grew up. He'dtake us there to remind us where we came from and what our responsibility is as men when it comes to community.

Personally, I place the problems of the black community on my shoulders since I feel it's my responsibility to fix it. It's also why I can't blame black women for the shyt wrong with the black community because we're supposed to be the ones leading, the way I saw my pops lead his community in Jamaica.

 

[godkiller]

You and your buddies never answered how its possible for poor whites to have privilege because they are white but its impossible to have male privilege because you are Black.

I don't see how black men, one of the most disenfranchised and disadvantaged groups in the country, can possibly have any meaningful level of "privilege" relative to other groups. Females have privilege purely on the basis they are female, which is a truth not talked about enough. Feminists like yourself often believe black men are powerless (when we are being insulted for inadequacy) and powerful (when we are being insulted for power abuse) all at the same time. Choose one side and stick to it.

Many of you even sympathize with white women and acknowledge sexism when they face it, only to turn around and say Black women don't have any legit claims about facing sexism

All women face some measure of sexism but in today's world it is barely a drawback, let alone an excuse. Most people aren't sexist to the degree that you think they are. This is a non-issue.

And this is on top of the constant attacks on Black women's physical appearance, "attitudes", and plus all the demeaning and subjugating things you all say about women in general.

Oh well, virtually all bro forums have posts that revel in female platitudes and criticisms. Most of it is in jest. If there is any emphasis on certain types of females, it is because of poster demographics, not any special hate targeting.

Yet you same folks will call feminism what's dividing the community.

Flippant and adversarial feminism can breed resentment and dislike, leading to division.

Y'all have zero respect for Black women, don't care about our unique issues (more often than not you blame us for everything than we go through) but then have a problem with a movement puts those issues out the forefront when you refuse to.

This forum caters to troll dudes, not intellectuals. It is similar to bodybuilding.com. The attitude to women is heavily dude-oriented, often without perspective or restraint. That is the site's demographic. As for the "unique issues" some black women whine on about, so long as they are based on logic and ratonality, they will get support. Unfortunately many so-called black feminist issues are made-up ones designed to push an agenda. They are rightful demonized.

 

[Elle Driver]

All women face some measure of sexism but in today's world it is barely a drawback, let alone an excuse. Most people aren't sexist to the degree that you think they are. This is a non-issue.

You gotta be kidding.

 

[Busted_Toes]

 

[PartyHeart]

I don't see how black men, one of the most disenfranchised and disadvantaged groups in the country, can possibly have any meaningful level of "privilege" relative to other groups. Females have privilege purely on the basis they are female, which is a truth not talked about enough. Feminists like yourself often believe black men are powerless (when we are being insulted for inadequacy) and powerful (when we are being insulted for power abuse) all at the same time. Choose one side and stick to it.

Black men have less power when it comes to white men and the white power structure, but they do have power when it comes to Black women.

Black women are mired by both being at the 'bottom' of the racial hierarchy (how we are viewed, not how we actually are. IMO we are the strongest race on the planet) and at the bottom of the gender binary.

All women face some measure of sexism but in today's world it is barely a drawback, let alone an excuse. Most people aren't sexist to the degree that you think they are. This is a non-issue.

I know its pointless to even read the rest of this post after this statement, but I'll be polite and at least finish this one.

Oh well, virtually all bro forums have posts that revel in female platitudes and criticisms. Most of it is in jest. If there is any emphasis on certain types of females, it is because of poster demographics, not any special hate targeting.

Pretty sure you're apart of the group that claims other Black female dominated sites are full of "bed wenches" because they seem to disproportionately criticize Black males. Thats somehow an offense against Blackness, yet here you are excusing when it happens in the reverse. I guess its okay for you and the group you're apart of to tee off on others and the reverse is just terrible and bad, right?

Flippant and adversarial feminism can breed resentment and dislike, leading to division.

Uh uh. Let you tell it women's rights movements never even had a need to be created, women were treated quite fairly and they just suddenly started oppressing poor, respectful men with this thing called feminism

This forum caters to troll dudes, not intellectuals. It is similar to bodybuilding.com. The attitude to women is heavily dude-oriented, often without perspective or restraint. That is the site's demographic. As for the "unique issues" some black women whine on about, so long as they are based on logic and ratonality, they will get support. Unfortunately many so-called black feminist issues are made-up ones designed to push an agenda. They are rightful demonized.

Right. And pretty much every unique issue that Black women "whine about" that holds Black men accountable just happens to be the ones demonized. You will stand and clap and applaud at any issue that challenges the white patriarchy structure, even ones that challenge white women to an extent (only to the extent that y'all think it will lead Black women away from feminism, nothing beyond that. Y'all make it abundantly clear that somehow white women aren't so bad when it comes to racism). But when the issue becomes correcting the treatment of Black men towards Black women within the Black community? c00n bed wench beastie hair hat bytch hoe....

Whatever. I've seen your posts about Black women anyway, you are one of the most offensive and hypocritical so not even sure why I bothered.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Tell these nikkas money is power they look at you crazy, power is in their pants apparently and not their wallet, So I said fukk it, Let me focus on raising my capital and let these nikkas live in dream land.

Breh, I've been telling nikkas on this site to stack money for years. I tell nikkas all the time, when you get paper, bytches will fall in line off GP. But every nikka on the planet knows that.

But the bigger issue, IMO, isn't nikkas getting money. The bigger issue is nikkas don't want to be leaders. Even the cats with bread will bounce on some "Y'all on your own breh, good luck " shyt.

Half this site claims to be balling, but how many of us are actually doing anything to fix the problems we claim to be so angry about?

It'd be one thing if nikkas said fukk it, I don't owe nobody shyt . But the fake outrage, keyboard activists, and forum revolutionaries are always gonna catch the side eye from me

That's why I'll at least give @His_Excellence_Reincar his props. He can't stand single mothers, but he'll at least teach there b*stards kids how to play baseball.

 

[Box Cutta]

First of all, I'm not surprised at all that this was written by a black feminist. I haven't browsed the topic yet, but it wouldn't shock me at all if she was a bed-wench, sell-out, c00n.

Bed-Wench Feminism is tearing our community apart. It's sad but...twitter may end up being the final nail in the coffin for us. All I see on there is a couple half dozen ringleaders constantly shoring up a divide between black men and black women.

Black men have less power when it comes to white men and the white power structure, but they do have power when it comes to Black women.

Black women are mired by both being at the 'bottom' of the racial hierarchy (how we are viewed, not how we actually are. IMO we are the strongest race on the planet) and at the bottom of the gender binary.

This doesn't manifest itself in practice however.

In practice, black women have some advantages in some areas, and some disadvantages in other.

Black women are less discriminated against in hiring practices for instance (I can't find it anymore, but just a few months ago, I saw a great source that showed that WHITE WOMEN actually had the easiest time being hired).

It goes without saying that the criminal justice system is by and large most discriminatory against black males....there really isn't any arguments to be made on that front.

Representations in the media...pretty much a wash in 2013.

For me, this shyt is all just tertiary anyways. The schism in this country is along racial lines, not gender lines, and anyone who disagrees is supporting white supremacy.

If black women and black men switched places today....black women would find themselves in damn near the exact same sociopolitical situation as they have always been....oh wait, they wouldn't have to deal with hair issues...how tremendous for them....

If they switched places with ANY other group...their situation would be tremendously better.

White Men
White Women
Asian Men
Asian Women
Hispanic Men
Hispanic Women
Black Women
Black Men

^ This is the hierarchy in America, and you're worried about what fukking black men are doing, when we should be the ones working together.

 

[Busted_Toes]

2013 Black Feminism = Hate Black men & White women, ignore White men & watch Scandal.