Arrest Warrant Issued for Bill Cosby (UPDATE: Criminally Charged, Freed On $1M Bail)

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damn, bill, hate it had to be him. if i was a celebrity i'd be scared right now, the quickness with which you can go from hero to zero to social pariah is scary. nobody safe in these celebrity streets breh,,, the power is not with the celebrities anymore, its with twitter, social media, entertainment media. gosh damn, the phrase "fukk the fame just the money" never been more apt than now. as much as i wanna say fukk opportunistic media types etc, cant really underplay what cosby very likely did do.

:stopitslime: if you're white you got nothing to worry about. I can Youtube a video of Sean Connery telling Barbara Walters he slap hoes with no remorse. They knighted this cac after that.....but these cacs wondering if schools gone give Pill his money back, if his star will be removed from the walk of fame, etc over something that was considered commonplace back in the day......like slapping hoes who talked too much.
 
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this ain't right.

it should be a wake up call for don lemon and stephen a though. once they done with your c00ning they'll lock you up reall quick. :sas1:


Thing is that Cosby NEVER c00ned. This man seriously put his money, status, and reputation where his mouth was and supported black causes, institutions, and GENUINELY advocated for the higher education of blacks.


Cosby's entire issue was pretty much holding our people to a higher standard, even when mainstream media depicted us as lowly. I didn't agree with everything he said, but I agreed whole-heartedly with the message and INTENT behind it.


Tearing all of that down based off of allegations that, to this point have no basis in FACT is something I am deeply against.
I don't want to engage in a debate with emotions, and anger,...I am fascinated with crime from serial killers, to sexual predators, As a 14 year old kid I read FBI profiling book on sexual sadists, brutal killers, learned the difference between M.O and signature killers, studied the Jon Benet Ramsey case, read about Jack the Ripper and the Boston Strangler, etc, etc.. And as an adult I still read up on it, everyday in the news, analyze cases.... I am not an expert, and I didn't go to school for any of that, but I am knowledgeable on it....and I would assume many people aren't. And, no I am not saying take MY word for it, but I am looking at strictly from objective standpoint....considering the evidence, and when I say evidence, I mean everything thats available for the public to see.....and I see someone guilty of sexual assault, at a minimum. Thats just my opinion. It's not about mocking Cosby or his supporters, or drawing lines in the sand, thats just what I believe, not based on personal bias toward a beloved icon, or a sordid desire to condemn him, just the straight up evidence. It wouldn't matter if that was Bill Cosby, Memphis Bleek, some crazy uncle of mine, I would be saying the same exact thing. Obviously, I am not personally involved in the case, nor was I present, so I can't offer you proof....but thats for the prosecutors to present, the defense to question, and a jury to decide. There is this bizarre reasoning online and off, esp. in rape cases that people say 'where is the proof'? and 'Innocent until guilty'....Those are legal terms, and none of us need to follow them, as we are not legally obligated to, as members of the justice system or jurors.

Look at Jared Fogle.....he has since pleaded guilty, but I called that one, that he was guilty on the first day they reported his house was raided. Thats based on the available 'evidence', that I had access to.

Look at cases that are hundreds of years old, like Jack the Ripper, I can't tell you who exactly did it.....but I can give you a great picture of who it likely was, and who it def. wasn't....I call Cosby the same way, I think he's guilty. No emotions, no anger, no triumph, or feeling righteous.



You basically wrote all of this to say that your interest in criminology leads you to believe that he's guilty. Fantastic. MY interest in the WELL DOCUMENTED and continued agenda to bring down every single black man or woman of prominence, who attempts to do right by our race through political, educational, or industrial means, tells me that something fishy is going on here. There's absolutely NO WAY that 40 women suddenly "woke up" this year and decided that THIS was the time to accuse this man of sexual assault. Again no rape kits have been produced, no EVIDENCE found, simply a story. And it's no coincidence that the stories in question can't be corroborated by anyone accept the accuser or Cosby.


You "called" The Fogle case, but you neglect to say that in that case, there was EVIDENCE pointing towards Fogle having kiddie porn on his computer.
 

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im not sure I follow what you are saying.

Why are you so sure Cosby is guilty?

There was probably some funny business (where both parties were being dumb)...but flat out rape!?
If Roseanne Barr stuck a broom stick up your ass & raped you...
...would you wait to press charges?
If nothing came of those charges, would you just let it be?

I believe at a minimum he is guilty of sexual assault.....I think he is likely guilty of having sex with women when they were passed out, or other similar acts. Thats flat out rape to me. There another misconcpetion that the only former of 'legit' rape is a stranger attacking a woman, grabbing her from behind, and forcing himself on her, maybe with a gun or knife used. Aquiatance rape is much, much more common, and fits right into the this case.

So, purely objectively, you have a rich, powerful, influential man, in a position of power and respect, who was frequently in the company of women, younger, adoring, and looking at Cosby as a way in to the game, a mentor, an important friend to have. None of that is in contention. Now, you have over 30 women who have come forward and alleged that sexual misconduct/sexual assault took place....knowing what I know about rape victims, (what a devastating and humiliating experience that is, esp. in the very public eye, and going at a beloved celebrity) and the stats about false rape claims, I believe they are telling the truth, and even if some are lying, even half, I don't believe all of them are.

Then, taking into account Cosby's depositions and his statements there, I think you have a man guilty of sexual assault. I think it's very improbable and highly unlikely that many women are conspiring to ruin Cosby, or incur financial gain. We can go into the psychology of a sexual offender, and compare to what we know about Cosby, we can go way further...but, thats what I am looking at.

As for the Roseanne question, I'll put it back to you, if you were sexually assaulted by someone, perhaps unattractive, and a celebrity, as a teenager or 20 something, you would file charges and a civil suit right away? Despite that your friends and family will know you as either a victim of sexual assault, or a leech on the come up. Thats your label for life.
 

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So wait the statute of limitations runs out in 2 days...... :dead: ......:laff:

I'm done...... I'm outta here ...
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I believe at a minimum he is guilty of sexual assault.....I think he is likely guilty of having sex with women when they were passed out, or other similar acts. Thats flat out rape to me. There another misconcpetion that the only former of 'legit' rape is a stranger attacking a woman, grabbing her from behind, and forcing himself on her, maybe with a gun or knife used. Aquiatance rape is much, much more common, and fits right into the this case.

So, purely objectively, you have a rich, powerful, influential man, in a position of power and respect, who was frequently in the company of women, younger, adoring, and looking at Cosby as a way in to the game, a mentor, an important friend to have. None of that is in contention. Now, you have over 30 women who have come forward and alleged that sexual misconduct/sexual assault took place....knowing what I know about rape victims, (what a devastating and humiliating experience that is, esp. in the very public eye, and going at a beloved celebrity) and the stats about false rape claims, I believe they are telling the truth, and even if some are lying, even half, I don't believe all of them are.

Then, taking into account Cosby's depositions and his statements there, I think you have a man guilty of sexual assault. I think it's very improbable and highly unlikely that many women are conspiring to ruin Cosby, or incur financial gain. We can go into the psychology of a sexual offender, and compare to what we know about Cosby, we can go way further...but, thats what I am looking at.

As for the Roseanne question, I'll put it back to you, if you were sexually assaulted by someone, perhaps unattractive, and a celebrity, as a teenager or 20 something, you would file charges and a civil suit right away? Despite that your friends and family will know you as either a victim of sexual assault, or a leech on the come up. Thats your label for life.

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[QUOTE="Ziggiy, post: 16986833, member: 944

You basically wrote all of this to say that your interest in criminology leads you to believe that he's guilty. Fantastic. MY interest in the WELL DOCUMENTED and continued agenda to bring down every single black man or woman of prominence, who attempts to do right by our race through political, educational, or industrial means, tells me that something fishy is going on here. There's absolutely NO WAY that 40 women suddenly "woke up" this year and decided that THIS was the time to accuse this man of sexual assault. Again no rape kits have been produced, no EVIDENCE found, simply a story. And it's no coincidence that the stories in question can't be corroborated by anyone accept the accuser or Cosby.


You "called" The Fogle case, but you neglect to say that in that case, there was EVIDENCE pointing towards Fogle having kiddie porn on his computer.[/QUOTE]

I called the Fogle thing, as soon as it was revealed the police raided his house, without arresting him, because I know procedure. I respect you as poster, and I am not going to insult you.....How can I say you are right about systematic racisim , and wrong about a massive, sprawling conspiracy to bring down Bill Cosby? It's the same as Pac's death, it's just absurd. How would a conspiracy like that even work? Who is at the helm? Who finances it? Who drops the money off? Who recruits? Who bribes or influences a state level prosecutor to bring charges? These people have families, are they involved? We are talking about 75 people, at a minimum. How do you keep it contained? What do you do when the women want more money, or they will go to the media? How do you convince his former friends and admirers to accuse him of heinous crimes? Do you see how hard it is to come up with a logical explanation for any of this? Thats the thing with conspiracies, you can just say 'ITS A CONSPIRACY'. Give me a working theory, with a group of coconspirators and their motives, as well as how the pulled this off.....show me where it makes even the slightest bit of sense, and I will acknowledge your point. And I mean, a criminal conspiracy, not the racial biases of the media, or the tendency for them to follow salacious stories involving celebs til the death... One thing about investigating crime, is the tendency for MANY people to bend scenarios and circumstances to fit the crime...and not the other way around.
 

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Why do yall say he was c00nin?

he basically said black folks need to take life more serious and act like we have some pride.
Why is that wrong?

It was the same speech black elitist have been giving poor black people since the beginning of time out of shame,in hopes to get that pat on the head by creating distance between themselves and poor blacks, FOR CACS.....Give black folks some credit,we don't get mad at every black person who criticizes us,but I think we can feel the difference in a speech given out of love,and in hopes for a better understanding....And the disgusting shyt that Cosby was spewing,the "acceptable negro" Cosby types are the white mans number one ally for a reason:sas1:...Even J Edgar Hoover knew "responsible/acceptable negroes" would be the most useful in discrediting blacks he found "unacceptable".....After years of not publically taking strong stances on race relations,he decides to come out STRONG against black people and say "We gotta stop blaming white people and the government yall:whoa:"....Where was you at with all these strong stances back when there was no way you couldn't blame white people and the government because they was on record saying "fukk yall ******s"?Where was Cosby at back then to talk that tough shyt:pachaha:.?

Just tellin u why I feel he was c00nin:manny:

But maybe Cosby was right,cant blame the cac media and the justice system for his actions,maybe he should plead guilty and take responsibility:troll:
 

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[QUOTE="Ziggiy, post: 16986833, member: 944

You basically wrote all of this to say that your interest in criminology leads you to believe that he's guilty. Fantastic. MY interest in the WELL DOCUMENTED and continued agenda to bring down every single black man or woman of prominence, who attempts to do right by our race through political, educational, or industrial means, tells me that something fishy is going on here. There's absolutely NO WAY that 40 women suddenly "woke up" this year and decided that THIS was the time to accuse this man of sexual assault. Again no rape kits have been produced, no EVIDENCE found, simply a story. And it's no coincidence that the stories in question can't be corroborated by anyone accept the accuser or Cosby.


You "called" The Fogle case, but you neglect to say that in that case, there was EVIDENCE pointing towards Fogle having kiddie porn on his computer.

I called the Fogle thing, as soon as it was revealed the police raided his house, without arresting him, because I know procedure. I respect you as poster, and I am not going to insult you.....How can I say you are right about systematic racisim , and wrong about a massive, sprawling conspiracy to bring down Bill Cosby? It's the same as Pac's death, it's just absurd. How would a conspiracy like that even work? Who is at the helm? Who finances it? Who drops the money off? Who recruits? Who bribes or influences a state level prosecutor to bring charges? These people have families, are they involved? We are talking about 75 people, at a minimum. How do you keep it contained? What do you do when the women want more money, or they will go to the media? How do you convince his former friends and admirers to accuse him of heinous crimes? Do you see how hard it is to come up with a logical explanation for any of this? Thats the thing with conspiracies, you can just say 'ITS A CONSPIRACY'. Give me a working theory, with a group of coconspirators and their motives, as well as how the pulled this off.....show me where it makes even the slightest bit of sense, and I will acknowledge your point. And I mean, a criminal conspiracy, not the racial biases of the media, or the tendency for them to follow salacious stories involving celebs til the death... One thing about investigating crime, is the tendency for MANY people to bend scenarios and circumstances to fit the crime...and not the other way around.[/QUOTE]


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Except there is no evidence to look at. This is literally a "she said he did it" case. The fact that this is even going to trial 12 years later days before the statute of limitations is up because of a guy who won his position campaigning on bringing Cosby up on charges says it all. That bullshyt you just typed shows that you're completely ignorant of what is actually going on. fukkin idiot.
The type to get people locked when Its no crime
 

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As for the Roseanne question, I'll put it back to you, if you were sexually assaulted by someone, perhaps unattractive, and a celebrity, as a teenager or 20 something, you would file charges and a civil suit right away? Despite that your friends and family will know you as either a victim of sexual assault, or a leech on the come up. Thats your label for life.
Yea I would have no problem filing charges.

Which is why I dont totally buy the whole mindset that rape victims get a pass from stepping forward due to judgement or whatever...
...thats life. shyt happens to all of us...its how you deal w/ it that matters.

I know it seems odd that so many people have come forward...but the thing is....when money is involved anything goes.
The first thing people say about Cosby is that he wasnt a nice person...which tells me Cosby wasnt down to kiss anybody's ass...not even in the 60's & 70's when white folks expected you to do it.
So he probably rubbed a lot of the people the wrong way....so who knows what/who he got involved with.

Lets also not forget...how hard do you think it was for a white woman back in the day to bring charges to a black man?
Even if he was famous...he was still black at a time where the majority flat out viewed us as inferior.
 
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