Are yall paying attention to this tariff nonsense? You should (UPDATE) Tarriffs hitting on Feb 1st fukk TRUMP

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When OPEC cut production and raised prices. USA produced more oil and with tech became the world's biggest producer of oil and created jobs While driving down prices.

Let's make this iPhone chips in the USA. More jobs for people. USA rose to power manufacturing stuff and selling to other established countries. USA is too new in being a superpower to be importing too many goods from long established powers. USA with technology advancement and resources should still be selling cheap goods around the world where others can't compete for a few hundred years.
 

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When OPEC cut production and raised prices. USA produced more oil and with tech became the world's biggest producer of oil and created jobs While driving down prices.

Let's make this iPhone chips in the USA. More jobs for people. USA rose to power manufacturing stuff and selling to other established countries. USA is too new in being a superpower to be importing too many goods from long established powers. USA with technology advancement and resources should still be selling cheap goods around the world where others can't compete for a few hundred years.
That simple, huh? You know how long it would take and how expensive it would be to get the infrastructure in place to even do that on a mass scale? Asia invested resources in this before it became the backbone of everything. We didn't. It's too late. Even if we do, you can't just cut off imports (or potentially make them super expensive through tariffs) until then.
 

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Canada

Canada supplies the United States with Crude Oil, Natural Gas, Electricity, and Uranium.

Canada is the largest supplier of energy to the U.S. :merchant:

Crude Oil
Canada is the largest source of crude oil for the U.S.
In 2023, Canada supplied almost 60% of the U.S.'s crude oil imports.
The trade in petroleum products between the two countries is relatively balanced in value and volume.

Natural Gas
Canada supplies almost all of the U.S.'s natural gas imports.
In 2019, 98% of the U.S.'s natural gas imports came from Canada.
Most of the natural gas imported from Canada is shipped to the U.S.'s Midwest and West regions.

Electricity
Canada is a major supplier of electricity to the U.S. northeast.
The two countries have a highly integrated electricity grid, connected by more than 30 cross-border transmission lines.
Canada is the second-largest hydropower producer in the world.

Uranium
Canada supplies a quarter of the U.S.'s uranium imports.
The uranium is used in nuclear reactors that power about 1 in 21 U.S. homes.


Only a functional retard would do this :snoop:
 

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You can also add the fact that we have had prosperity for the last 40 odd years outside of the S&L crisis, the Dot-Com crash, the Housing crash, and Covid and we used none of that money to invest in American infrastructure. We should've had high-speed rail, M4A, free college or heavily subsidized college, affordable housing, etc. All the money was siphoned off to the 1%.
All those billionaires and you got people dying because they couldn’t afford a $500 inhaler (true story)

The most retarded country out there. So much wealth but crumbling infrastructure. Now they’re looking taxpayers since they’re now in the white house.

Besos, Elon, Zuckerberg. Disgusting animals.
 

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When OPEC cut production and raised prices. The USA produced more oil and, with tech, became the world's biggest producer of oil and created jobs While driving down prices.

Let's make these iPhone chips in the USA. More jobs for people. The USA rose to power manufacturing stuff and selling to other established countries. The USA is too new in being a superpower to be importing too many goods from long-established powers. The USA, with technological advancement and resources, should still be selling cheap goods around the world where others can't compete for a few hundred years.
Unlike other countries where America buys most of its goods, America doesn't have the resources to go fully 100% Made in America, which is a pipe dream constantly sold to Middle American cacs.

Nearly everything from clothes, electronics, cars, toiletries, utensils, etc, named in the US is made or manufactured in China, among other countries. America doesn't have the capabilities to supply its nation with the number of goods to this extent that we receive from other countries, that's what a lot of uber-patriotic cacs, etc fail to understand.

The United States can't afford to go completely “Made in America”, it's just not sustainable. In certain fields, locally or small American companies, sure but not great enough to make up the difference in what we receive today from other countries. It's just a pipe dream sold to Middle America and small-town cacs who like to beat on their chest about being American to have something to believe in, but in reality, the idea of it all is a farce.
 

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That simple, huh? You know how long it would take and how expensive it would be to get the infrastructure in place to even do that on a mass scale? Asia invested resources in this before it became the backbone of everything. We didn't. It's too late. Even if we do, you can't just cut off imports (or potentially make them super expensive through tariffs) until then.
They also forget why jobs were outsourced. Thry will not be able to find the people to build iPhones at anything close to the cost in China. There are all kinds of regulations in the US and frankly the avg US worker is lazy and self entitled compared to those workers abroad.

Trump is going to send the US into a depression if this conrinues.
 

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Canada is the largest supplier of energy to the U.S. :merchant:
Kinda misleading to say it like that. The vast majority of oil and electricity used in the U.S. is produced in the U.S. The import of these into the U.S. is relatively nominal and mostly from Canada. Imagine a pie chart. Say 85% of that is oil/electricity the US produced and uses. The other 15% of the pie is what is imported and mostly from Canada.
 

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That simple, huh? You know how long it would take and how expensive it would be to get the infrastructure in place to even do that on a mass scale? Asia invested resources in this before it became the backbone of everything. We didn't. It's too late. Even if we do, you can't just cut off imports (or potentially make them super expensive through tariffs) until then.

I get that. Oil was easier because we never stopped. Just slowed down and developed better tech.

Easier said than done. But USA needs to do something to drive down prices by producing more goods.
 

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IMO I see the tariff issue as Covid 2.0. There were multiple reports of grocery store chains raising prices and it wasn't due to inflation. Yes prices may go up due to tariffs but companies are going to maximum it further than need be.

Food prices are artificially high anyways. Government pays and will destroy surplus crops last I checked.
 
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